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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:33 pm 
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OK, maybe a bit extreme, but wasn't sure what to call this.

Coworker dealing with a situation today. One kid in her son's group of friends (call him Joey for now) has been suspended/in-school suspended 17 times in his 3 years at school for fighting, bullying (verbal and physical), and just being a general pain in the ass. Last week he got in a fight with one of the group, so they finally gave up and told him by group text to not to sit them at lunch anymore. The next day he still sits with them so they all get up and move to another table. He goes off and starts another fight. Today my coworker receives an email that all the kids that got up and moved were called into the principals office and given a lecture about how it was wrong for them to humiliate "Joey" by orchestrating a big scene and getting up and leaving him behind.

My coworker also received a text from Joey's mom that she was upset about how he was treated and she's thinking about finding a different school. He's been suspended 17 damn times!


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:36 pm 
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Joey's Mom (has got it going on) sounds like a good example for requiring a license to keep and bear children.


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In all seriousness, you can thank the liberal burritos in Illinois for this.

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/billsta ... ssionID=88

Basically a bad seed can terrorize an entire school and nothing can be done about it. The school has to put up with it.


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Boys being boys.

if it were one or 2 fights sure, but 17 suspensions in 3 years? Nah

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Nothing can be done so just do nothing and wait for it to happen.

If we must do something, let's arm cafeteria workers.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Nothing can be done so just do nothing and wait for it to happen.

If we must do something, let's arm cafeteria workers.


Yeah, like they're not already packing...

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There's no solution. Just let it be.


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There's no solution. Just let it be.


Although the lunch table kids may want to invest in body armor...

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if it were one or 2 fights sure, but 17 suspensions in 3 years? Nah


Nowadays I am not even sure if a fight is the same thing it used to be.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Nothing can be done so just do nothing and wait for it to happen.

If we must do something, let's arm cafeteria workers.


it used to be, you could do something, but then "BIG GOVERNMENT"(SB0100 ) stepped in and took that away.


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Stupid gun grabbing libtards posting a pic of a 22lr ar15 replica that has never been involved in a school shooting. Learn something about guns before you try to enter into the gun debate. burritos.

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If I were your coworker I'd have a meeting with the principal & counselor then (maybe) have a separate meeting with the principal, counselor, and parent of the other kid.

Document what they have done to be patient and help Joey. Then describe how they feel Joey is a danger or has been disrupting her child's well being (negative school culture and climate). Ask them what their action plan is. If Joey does something to her child or makes life difficult for others will Joey face consequences? Ask what is expected of them and that just dealing with it is not an option.

I'd also let them know that they will receive calls or visits everyday if it is not fixed or working to fix it. Also let them know that people above their heads can/will be notified. She basically has to become a bigger pain in the ass than Joey in a reasonable, documented, feel good kind of way.

Also, yes try to help Joey, might need to be thru school, but they have every right to ask Joey to get help, stop fighting, or set limits especially if they are friends with him.


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If I were your coworker I'd have a meeting with the principal & counselor then (maybe) have a separate meeting with the principal, counselor, and parent of the other kid.

Document what they have done to be patient and help Joey. Then describe how they feel Joey is a danger or has been disrupting her child's well being (negative school culture and climate). Ask them what their action plan is. If Joey does something to her child or makes life difficult for others will Joey face consequences? Ask what is expected of them and that just dealing with it is not an option.

I'd also let them know that they will receive calls or visits everyday if it is not fixed or working to fix it. Also let them know that people above their heads can/will be notified. She basically has to become a bigger pain in the ass than Joey in a reasonable, documented, feel good kind of way.

Also, yes try to help Joey, might need to be thru school, but they have every right to ask Joey to get help, stop fighting, or set limits especially if they are friends with him.


Little Joey needs to be fucking expelled. But he can't thanks to the fucktard liberals in Illinois.


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Caller Bob wrote:
Little Joey needs to be fucking expelled. But he can't thanks to the fucktard liberals in Illinois.


That's not really helping Joey and Joey will continue to exist so you have a problem either way. What they need to focus on is how to get Joey to exist in the world not how the rest of the world should exist in Joey's world.


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Spaulding wrote:
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Little Joey needs to be fucking expelled. But he can't thanks to the fucktard liberals in Illinois.


That's not really helping Joey and Joey will continue to exist so you have a problem either way. What they need to focus on is how to get Joey to exist in the world not how the rest of the world should exist in Joey's world.


Nobody should give a fuck about little Joey. Hopefully he lands in jail and is dead in a few years.


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Caller Bob wrote:
Spaulding wrote:
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Little Joey needs to be fucking expelled. But he can't thanks to the fucktard liberals in Illinois.


That's not really helping Joey and Joey will continue to exist so you have a problem either way. What they need to focus on is how to get Joey to exist in the world not how the rest of the world should exist in Joey's world.


Nobody should give a fuck about little Joey. Hopefully he lands in jail and is dead in a few years.

In 5 years he'll be ripping off Uber clients $5 a pop and then flee to France

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Thankfully the suspensions/expulsions shouldn’t infringe on his second amendment rights once he comes of age.


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If the kid with 17 fights has an IEP he is probably not going anywhere unless someone gets seriously hurt.

Outside of bringing a weapon to school or a large amount of drugs, a kid is not going to get kicked out of public school in Illinois. They changed the law last year making it much more difficult to be removed.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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Little Joey needs to be fucking expelled. But he can't thanks to the fucktard liberals in Illinois.


That's not really helping Joey and Joey will continue to exist so you have a problem either way. What they need to focus on is how to get Joey to exist in the world not how the rest of the world should exist in Joey's world.


Nobody should give a fuck about little Joey. Hopefully he lands in jail and is dead in a few years.

In 5 years he'll be ripping off Uber clients $5 a pop and then flee to France

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Don't ban violent kids from our schools!


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Little Joey should be beat with a sock full of quarters.

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Little Joey should be beat with a sock full of quarters.

I like the cut of your jib.


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This does go to show the flaw in the idea that school shooters should be stopped based on "warning signs". What exactly can you do? If you expel you make it more likely he goes nuts and does it. I guess you could take away his gun privileges but the poorly planned 2nd amendment knocks that out. You can't put him in jail until he's no longer a threat.

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I wonder what his parents are like....


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This does go to show the flaw in the idea that school shooters should be stopped based on "warning signs". What exactly can you do? If you expel you make it more likely he goes nuts and does it. I guess you could take away his gun privileges but the poorly planned 2nd amendment knocks that out. You can't put him in jail until he's no longer a threat.

I think this is conjecture.


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