I'm not clicking on a website that says "s-p-i-c enter".

their faith is frequently depicted as sanctioning pedophilia, coupled with intolerance for homosexuals and women.

Interesting characterization of people that possess views that are considered anti Muslim. Very interesting in fact.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate ... nti-muslim

Okay, where's the lie?

SPLC.

Joke of an organization that reasonable folks on both sides have denounced.

yep, statements regarding this are 100% accurate and can easily be backed up. Just try living as a gay man in Iran, as a woman in Saudi Arabia, or tell us about the child brides still relatively common in some MidEast countries.

Joke of an organization that reasonable folks on both sides have denounced.

You neglected to tell us how any of that makes them a threat to the United States. If you were really concerned about the treatment of Muslims is really troubling for you then you'd complain about the damn bombs being dropped in their damn countries. You'd also complain about the treatment of them by groups in Non Muslim countries. You'd don't so save your sympathy you damn hypocrite.

Joke of an organization that reasonable folks on both sides have denounced.

I'm not saying they are a threat to the US. I'm stating that it is not hateful, but rather accurate to bring light to the homophobia, misogyny, and pedophilia, which are rampant in hardline Islamic societies.

Also, I think I've made my view on the Iraq war and drone bombings quite clear... So go ahead, call me a hypocrite again, I'm pretty sure I've criticized the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in just about every thread where I have posted about them. Clearly reading comprehension is not your strong suit.

I can say that our wars there are wrong, but I can also say that Islamic practices as seen in Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc. have no place in the 21st century.

Depends on what you consider to be reasonable.

Not really. Reasonable people don't label Muslims who criticize aspects of Islam as terrorists. Not really a semantics debate. Sorry.

I've never heard that. Is it any more unreasonable than people on the other side that constantly assert that each and every adherent to the religion of Islam is out to destroy the West?


Again it's funny how that sort of language was virtually non existent pre 9/11

Then the focus should be on the group that ran planes into the WTC. It shouldn't be used to stereotype all Muslims. Even if you account for "fundamentalists" it's still wrong to stereotype all Muslims. Been around this country a long time (inner Hawk Harrelson voice) and I never recall hearing about an inherent hatred of America on the part of Muslims. Any dislike was considered more of a political than it was a religious thing.

Any dislike was considered more of a political than it was a religious thing.

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Wait a minute. I thought it was our fault because of our meddling in the Middle East going back decades before 9/11?

Now you are saying we didn't have any issues with Muslims until 9/11?

Take one off the list! We aren't to blame for the problems in the Middle East!

And here's where you seem to be getting confused. Islam is a political system as well as a religion. That's why someone like Maajid Nawaz- a Muslim himself who the group you are citing has declared an anti-Muslim bigot- isn't likely to succeed at reforming Islam. Who the fuck is Maajid Nawaz to change the rules set out by the Prophet? I believe it was Christopher Hitchens who liked to point out that Islam made a claim for itself that was different from other religions and quite dangerous- that the Koran is the final Word of God. It's pretty difficult to "reform" that.

Was there ever a point in time during your posting history that you didn't misconstrue a point? I'm serious about that also.

Do you really think that was effective to avoid the question?

Also, what point did I misconstrue? You have blamed American policy in the Middle East for decades on what has happened there. All of a sudden it seems like 9/11 was the start of it all.