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It's weird that Trump's tweet don't mention the mental health aspect of the accused.


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 Post subject: Re: Kate Steinle verdict
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It's weird that Trump's tweet don't mention the mental health aspect of the accused.

I know you're upset he's getting deported, but if its any consolation this will be the sixth time they've thrown him out and if it makes it back to SF the muni police wont be able to do anything to get him sent back!

Cheer up buttercup.


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I m more mad and angry at the dumbfucks on this jury and at our system.

I guess this is how African Americans feel on a daily basis when they get screwed over by the Justice System.


You really don't know how that works. Or feels. So stay in your lane

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I guess this is how African Americans feel on a daily basis when they get screwed over by the Justice System.


It's actually quite interesting, because now you'll see political sides bogarting tactics of the other in cases such as these.

Conservatives and whites will begin with disingenuous, oversimplifications of the facts ("He was holding the gun, the gun went off, and now this girl is dead—but no, not guilty of a crime; THIS is America now.").

Liberals/Progressives will rush in, quoting the statutory definition of manslaughter in California and applying the facts to it juuuuust so. (It's not often you see Spiral flex his legal muscle on the board, I wonder what got his juices going regarding this?)

The former group will then try to deny the reasonable doubt that is created by a likewise reasonable application and interpretation of the facts and evidence because, well, HE KILLED A WOMAN.

And onward goes, this thing of ours.


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 Post subject: Re: Kate Steinle verdict
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or you could take the Kirkwood/RR approach, which is CELEBRATE A MURDER!

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or you could take the Kirkwood/RR approach, which is CELEBRATE A MURDER!

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or you could take the Kirkwood/RR approach, which is CELEBRATE A MURDER!

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yikes!


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RR wasn't celebrating a murderer. He was just deflecting as he usually does. In separate posts in this thread, he brought up Bill O'Reilly, Rodney King and Dick Cheney.

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RR wasn't celebrating a murderer. He was just deflecting as he usually does. In separate posts in this thread, he brought up Bill O'Reilly, Rodney King and Dick Cheney.

fuck Dick Cheney, kill (duh!) Rodney King, marry Bill O’Reilly

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or you could take the Kirkwood/RR approach, which is CELEBRATE A MURDER!

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Hopefully someone murders this brave Twitter user.

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Cohen is that guys name? Oh man the alt right is going to be foaming at the mouth.

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Her family is going to eventually own the city
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On March 26, 2015, at the request of the San Francisco Sheriff's Department, United States Bureau of Prisons (BOP) had turned Sanchez over to San Francisco authorities for an outstanding drug warrant. U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) had issued a detainer for Sanchez requesting that he be kept in custody until immigration authorities could pick him up. [12]​

So he is in Fed custody serving time. SanFran asks or him so they can go after him for a local charge,Feds request them to hold when they are done. His case is dismissed and they let him go. If you look at his previous cord he is a drug trafficker, and not the good drugs either.

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SuperMario wrote:
RR wasn't celebrating a murderer. He was just deflecting as he usually does. In separate posts in this thread, he brought up Bill O'Reilly, Rodney King and Dick Cheney.

fuck Dick Cheney, kill (duh!) Rodney King, marry Bill O’Reilly


:lol: :lol:

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HawaiiYou wrote:
I guess this is how African Americans feel on a daily basis when they get screwed over by the Justice System.


It's actually quite interesting, because now you'll see political sides bogarting tactics of the other in cases such as these.

Conservatives and whites will begin with disingenuous, oversimplifications of the facts ("He was holding the gun, the gun went off, and now this girl is dead—but no, not guilty of a crime; THIS is America now.").

Liberals/Progressives will rush in, quoting the statutory definition of manslaughter in California and applying the facts to it juuuuust so. (It's not often you see Spiral flex his legal muscle on the board, I wonder what got his juices going regarding this?)

The former group will then try to deny the reasonable doubt that is created by a likewise reasonable application and interpretation of the facts and evidence because, well, HE KILLED A WOMAN.

And onward goes, this thing of ours.


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On March 26, 2015, at the request of the San Francisco Sheriff's Department, United States Bureau of Prisons (BOP) had turned Sanchez over to San Francisco authorities for an outstanding drug warrant. U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) had issued a detainer for Sanchez requesting that he be kept in custody until immigration authorities could pick him up. [12]​

So he is in Fed custody serving time. SanFran asks or him so they can go after him for a local charge,Feds request them to hold when they are done. His case is dismissed and they let him go. If you look at his previous cord he is a drug trafficker, and not the good drugs either.


If that is the way it happened that is really bad.

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
HawaiiYou wrote:
I guess this is how African Americans feel on a daily basis when they get screwed over by the Justice System.


It's actually quite interesting, because now you'll see political sides bogarting tactics of the other in cases such as these.

Conservatives and whites will begin with disingenuous, oversimplifications of the facts ("He was holding the gun, the gun went off, and now this girl is dead—but no, not guilty of a crime; THIS is America now.").

Liberals/Progressives will rush in, quoting the statutory definition of manslaughter in California and applying the facts to it juuuuust so. (It's not often you see Spiral flex his legal muscle on the board, I wonder what got his juices going regarding this?)

The former group will then try to deny the reasonable doubt that is created by a likewise reasonable application and interpretation of the facts and evidence because, well, HE KILLED A WOMAN.

And onward goes, this thing of ours.


Dead white women get me all hot and bothered!


What about Jamiel Shaw????? Where is his justice?

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This is a worse verdict than the OJ Simpson trial. If anything this verdict means they will build the Wall.

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MANY saw this coming. The stupid prosecutor picked the wrong case to politicize. And grossly overcharge.

viewtopic.php?f=47&t=106343&p=2773104&hilit=accident#p2773104



None of us sat on that jury. I'm not going to criticize the people who did and who actually heard the evidence.

But I will say it's one hell of a coincidence that a guy who has a long criminal record and who had repeatedly been deported just happened to be in the wrong place and found a stolen gun on the ground, picked it up and had it inadvertently go off in his hand and kill a woman. If you're that unlucky you should probably be locked up just on general principle.


Actually, now that I think about it the optics were so absurd that the prosecutor really had no choice but to try it. The victim was a pretty blonde woman and the illegal looks so foreign that you really don't even think Mexican--the guy looks indigenous, like an Aztec or Mayan something. Then on top of it, she was so hot that Trump had to get involved--she was straight off the Fox News Update Anchor Farm. He would never align with an ugly murder victim, or god forbid an African American woman in one of SFs seedier areas. That story would have come and gone in a day.

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MANY saw this coming. The stupid prosecutor picked the wrong case to politicize. And grossly overcharge.

viewtopic.php?f=47&t=106343&p=2773104&hilit=accident#p2773104



None of us sat on that jury. I'm not going to criticize the people who did and who actually heard the evidence.

But I will say it's one hell of a coincidence that a guy who has a long criminal record and who had repeatedly been deported just happened to be in the wrong place and found a stolen gun on the ground, picked it up and had it inadvertently go off in his hand and kill a woman. If you're that unlucky you should probably be locked up just on general principle.


Actually, now that I think about it the optics were so absurd that the prosecutor really had no choice but to try it. The victim was a pretty blonde woman and the illegal looks so foreign that you really don't even think Mexican--the guy looks indigenous, like an Aztec or Mayan something. Then on top of it, she was so hot that Trump had to get involved--she was straight off the Fox News Update Anchor Farm. He would never align with an ugly murder victim, or god forbid an African American woman in one of SFs seedier areas. That story would have come and gone in a day.



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Justice Dept issued a warrant for his arrest

Interesting.


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Justice Dept issued a warrant for his arrest

Interesting.


Maybe they will try him on civil rights charges.

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Justice Dept issued a warrant for his arrest

Interesting.


Maybe they will try him on civil rights charges.


They're gonna pop him for illegally entering the country 5 times.


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So does SF give him up this time?

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pittmike wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Justice Dept issued a warrant for his arrest

Interesting.


Maybe they will try him on civil rights charges.


They're gonna pop him for illegally entering the country 5 times.

But if he's in a sanctuary city the local PD is not to turn him in, correct?


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pittmike wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Justice Dept issued a warrant for his arrest

Interesting.


Maybe they will try him on civil rights charges.


They're gonna pop him for illegally entering the country 5 times.

But if he's in a sanctuary city the local PD is not to turn him in, correct?


To ICE I thought.

Can you ignore the Justice Department?

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America wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
pittmike wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Justice Dept issued a warrant for his arrest

Interesting.


Maybe they will try him on civil rights charges.


They're gonna pop him for illegally entering the country 5 times.

But if he's in a sanctuary city the local PD is not to turn him in, correct?


I don't know. My guess is that the arrest warrant which was unsealed today is a bit different than the administrative request made by ICE to hold Garcia Zarate for deportation when he was originally arrested in San Francisco on the old drug charge, and the local authorities will facilitate the federal warrant.


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America wrote:
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pittmike wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Justice Dept issued a warrant for his arrest

Interesting.


Maybe they will try him on civil rights charges.


They're gonna pop him for illegally entering the country 5 times.

But if he's in a sanctuary city the local PD is not to turn him in, correct?


I don't know. My guess is that the arrest warrant which was unsealed today is a bit different than the administrative request made by ICE to hold Garcia Zarate for deportation when he was originally arrested in San Francisco on the old drug charge, and the local authorities will facilitate the federal warrant.


Federal ICE agents or Marshals will execute the warrant as they ordinarily do in cases of this type.

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So does SF give him up this time?

Not sure. As long as they keep Samardzija Im ok with it.

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