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Author:  badrogue17 [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:15 pm ]
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Don’t know if this previously posted .

Hank Azaria, who voices Apu in The Simpsons, has finally responded to a documentary that has accused the show of racial stereotyping with the character.

Comedian Hari Kondabolu's The Problem with Apu explores South Asian representation, stereotyping, racism and Azaria's accent in his documentary about Springfield's Kwik-E-Mart owner Apu Nahasapeemapetilon.


The documentary's producers suggest elements of Apu's character promote racial stereotyping including his arranged marriage, the fact that he has lots of children, and that he is defined by his convenience store.

Azaria has now expressed his sadness that his character may have caused offence to the show's Indian and Indian-American fans.

"I think the documentary made some really interesting points and gave us a lot to think about and we really are thinking about it," the Ray Donovan star told TMZ.

"Definitely anybody that was hurt or offended by it, or by any character or vocal performance, it's really upsetting that it was offensive or hurtful to anybody."

On whether this could potentially lead to changes to the character or the show, the actor went on: "I think it's an important conversation worth having. We're still thinking about it. It's a lot to digest."

Speaking to the BBC, Kondabolu explained: "Of course [Apu is] funny, but that doesn't mean this representation is accurate or right or righteous.

"It gets to the insidiousness of racism… because you don't even notice it when it's right in front of you. It becomes so normal that you don't even think about it."

The documentary, which includes interviews with comedians Whoopi Goldberg and Aziz Ansar, recently aired on TruTV.



Author:  Chus [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:22 pm ]
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Apu's kids are octuplets. :lol:

I can't believe that Matt Groening was as successful as was, without this guy's help.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:24 pm ]
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Apu also studies his ass off to ace the test he needs to take to become an American citizen.

Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:26 pm ]
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Every character on the show is a stereotype.

Author:  Chus [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:26 pm ]
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Big Chicagoan wrote:
Every character on the show is a stereotype.


jimmypasta is probably outraged at how Fat Tony is portrayed.

Author:  Hockey Gay [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:27 pm ]
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Racial stereotyping is hilarious.

Stop trying to make things not funny.

Author:  Don Tiny [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:27 pm ]
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Really?

A Simpsons character is marginalizing someone out there?

Really?!?

Well "Michael", if that is in fact your real name, you sure seemed to be a fine candidate and I'd have loved to hire you as my business consultant, but I've seen on The Simpsons - it's a documentary, you see - anyway, from what I've seen fellas like you probably wouldn't have enough time to spend here on-site what with your convenience store and 6-12 kids and ... what do you mean you don't own a convenience store? Of course you do, look like I said I've done my research on your kind ... and another thing, I know you guys like working the phones but see a MANY people don't understand what the hell y'all are saying most of the time ... anyway, thanks for applying, and I'll be happy to validate your parking for your .... magic carpet, is it?

Author:  billypootons [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:28 pm ]
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A lot of comedy from 20 years ago would not make it to air today.

Author:  Hatchetman [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:28 pm ]
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This has been all over the media. guy was on NPR.

Author:  Don Tiny [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:29 pm ]
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billypootons wrote:
A lot of comedy from 40 years ago would not make it to air today.

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Author:  ToxicMasculinity [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:31 pm ]
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The "comedian" behind the doc:
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Just another limp wristed soyboi burrito down to the glasses.

Author:  Chus [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:35 pm ]
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billypootons wrote:
A lot of comedy from 20 years ago would not make it to air today.



Blazing Saddles could not be made today.

*edit - Damn you, Don Tiny. :lol:

Author:  Ogie Oglethorpe [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:40 pm ]
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This is why Trump won

Author:  badrogue17 [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:40 pm ]
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Why was Whoopi Goldberg interviewed for the doc? Unless it was because she’s a stereotype of an unfunny female comedian .

Author:  Ogie Oglethorpe [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:42 pm ]
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Fun fact, but an Indian kid I went to HS with was a big fan of Apu's character. He and I even took a trip up to the temporary Kwik-E-Mart that was converted from a 7-11 on the South Side as a promotion for The Simpsons movie in 2007.

Author:  Chus [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:44 pm ]
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Author:  badrogue17 [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:44 pm ]
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Fun fact, but an Indian kid I went to HS with was a big fan of Apu's character. He and I even took a trip up to the temporary Kwik-E-Mart that was converted from a 7-11 on the South Side as a promotion for The Simpsons movie in 2007.

Internalized racism . Sad .

Author:  Juiced [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:47 pm ]
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badrogue17 wrote:
Don’t know if this previously posted .

Hank Azaria, who voices Apu in The Simpsons, has finally responded to a documentary that has accused the show of racial stereotyping with the character.

Comedian Hari Kondabolu's The Problem with Apu explores South Asian representation, stereotyping, racism and Azaria's accent in his documentary about Springfield's Kwik-E-Mart owner Apu Nahasapeemapetilon.


The documentary's producers suggest elements of Apu's character promote racial stereotyping including his arranged marriage, the fact that he has lots of children, and that he is defined by his convenience store.

Azaria has now expressed his sadness that his character may have caused offence to the show's Indian and Indian-American fans.

"I think the documentary made some really interesting points and gave us a lot to think about and we really are thinking about it," the Ray Donovan star told TMZ.

"Definitely anybody that was hurt or offended by it, or by any character or vocal performance, it's really upsetting that it was offensive or hurtful to anybody."

On whether this could potentially lead to changes to the character or the show, the actor went on: "I think it's an important conversation worth having. We're still thinking about it. It's a lot to digest."

Speaking to the BBC, Kondabolu explained: "Of course [Apu is] funny, but that doesn't mean this representation is accurate or right or righteous.

"It gets to the insidiousness of racism… because you don't even notice it when it's right in front of you. It becomes so normal that you don't even think about it."

The documentary, which includes interviews with comedians Whoopi Goldberg and Aziz Ansar, recently aired on TruTV.




I laughed my ass off at the store owner because we all know the stereotype and can relate. Nothing wrong at laughing at that kind of humor.

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Bugs Bunny chinaman was funny at the time because people needed a release from the war and the hard times they where going through. Laughter was the best kind of medicine for a sick world.

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No excuse for this cartoon. It's not funny and only feeds on the racism and hatred that was going on back then.

The problem is how do you separate the two types of "humor"? You either have to A) write a general rule as to what you can and can not air on TV B) Let the public express their opinion by boycotting your company or not watch the show.

The problem with option A is it is hard to define what is not allowed, so they cast a large net over everything and still can't please everyone. If we banned averything that was offensive to people, we would be left with episodes of leave it to beaver and the Brady Bunch. Give it enough time and I am sure people would find things offensive about those shows.

Option B would be the best answer if everything was equal. The KKK could start up a game show (use your imagination) and it wouldn't get the ratings to survive outside of Alabama. Hillary Clinton could start an money making show about investing in Uranium and it would be atop the T.V. ratings.

I would just keep things as they are and if you don't like it MOVE. You can't ban every little thing that offends people. Grow some balls people!

Author:  Regular Reader [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:48 pm ]
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
This is why Trump won


Because in part minorities are tired of freely being made the butt of cheap jokes, yeah. And middle America sees this as a major affront to their feelings. Gotcha.

Keep in mind that my favorite character in tv history is Archie Bunker.

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:54 pm ]
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America is dead.

Author:  Douchebag [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:54 pm ]
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
America is dead.

Don't tease us with false hope.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:55 pm ]
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
America is dead.
$5 admission to his funeral.

Author:  Juice's Lecture Notes [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:55 pm ]
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Regular Reader wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
This is why Trump won


Because in part minorities are tired of freely being made the butt of cheap jokes, yeah. And middle America sees this as a major affront to their feelings. Gotcha.

Keep in mind that my favorite character in tv history is Archie Bunker.


Everybody in the show is freely made to be the butt of cheap jokes, you loon.

Author:  Ogie Oglethorpe [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:58 pm ]
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Regular Reader wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
This is why Trump won


Because in part minorities are tired of freely being made the butt of cheap jokes, yeah. And middle America sees this as a major affront to their feelings. Gotcha.

Keep in mind that my favorite character in tv history is Archie Bunker.

In comedy, I think every group needs to be able to be targeted for jokes. Look no further than any work of Mel Brooks.

I mean "The Producers" could never be made today (I think that would be even more controversial than Blazing Saddles).

As Mel Brooks himself put it once, you have a film about "2 Jews who figure out they can make more money with a flop than a hit so they produce a play about Adolf Hitler."

Author:  ToxicMasculinity [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:58 pm ]
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
This is why Trump won


Because in part minorities are tired of freely being made the butt of cheap jokes, yeah. And middle America sees this as a major affront to their feelings. Gotcha.

Keep in mind that my favorite character in tv history is Archie Bunker.


Everybody in the show is freely made to be the butt of cheap jokes, you loon.


Nope according to these people it is only CIS HET white males that need to be shamed

Author:  Ogie Oglethorpe [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:00 pm ]
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
This is why Trump won


Because in part minorities are tired of freely being made the butt of cheap jokes, yeah. And middle America sees this as a major affront to their feelings. Gotcha.

Keep in mind that my favorite character in tv history is Archie Bunker.


Everybody in the show is freely made to be the butt of cheap jokes, you loon.

I'd say middle class white males are the #1 target for caricature on that show. I mean, what else is Homer Simpson a representation of?

Granted the show flat out sucks now, but in the 90s it was satirical gold

Author:  Regular Reader [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:01 pm ]
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
This is why Trump won


Because in part minorities are tired of freely being made the butt of cheap jokes, yeah. And middle America sees this as a major affront to their feelings. Gotcha.

Keep in mind that my favorite character in tv history is Archie Bunker.


Everybody in the show is freely made to be the butt of cheap jokes, you loon.


It's completely lost on you that my last sentence confirmed to any sentient being that I enjoy them.

Reading IS a skill.

Author:  badrogue17 [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:01 pm ]
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ToxicMasculinity wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
This is why Trump won


Because in part minorities are tired of freely being made the butt of cheap jokes, yeah. And middle America sees this as a major affront to their feelings. Gotcha.

Keep in mind that my favorite character in tv history is Archie Bunker.


Everybody in the show is freely made to be the butt of cheap jokes, you loon.


Nope according to these people it is only CIS HET white males that need to be shamed

Every one of the people in the Lakemoor Fest photo should be offended by comic book guy

Author:  Regular Reader [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:04 pm ]
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
I'd say middle class white males are the #1 target for caricature on that show. I mean, what else is Homer Simpson a representation of?

Granted the show flat out sucks now, but in the 90s it was satirical gold


It actually was pretty funny yesterday.

As is the outrage by some being bothered by a minority's offense over stereotypical jokes.

Author:  Tad Queasy [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:05 pm ]
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A friend of mine, who is Indian, has dressed up as Apu on Halloween at least twice.

I didn't see the documentary. Did Aziz Ansari agree with the person who made it?

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