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Making a woman who stayed with an obviously consistently unfaithful husband the face of the women's.... whatever was probably a bad idea.
:lol:

And that she lost an election to a known womanizer.

Which once again shows she was the worst fucking candidate in history :lol:

Anyone else could have hammered Trump on the grab her by the pussy comment. Hillary couldn't as doing so would just invite Juanita Broaddrick to start speaking. Anyone remember "bimbo eruption"

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Again I agree with this. Many hate her but the best that we could come up with was Donald Trump? Donald Trump will go down as the most reprehensible human being to ever hold that office. Think about that for a second. If anyone is wondering what his legacy will be that is it. He has no redeeming qualities as a person.

If people are going to make the argument as to who the better person happens to be its Hillary hands down.


Trump can hold that title. Honestly I think if Hillary was elected she would be the most reprehensible human being to ever hold that office. She has no redeeming qualities as a person. It's hands down for you but that is not the case for everyone.

I really hope you do not feel or believe I defended Trump in this thread. That was not my intention. I also hope in time your anger/frustration/disappointment subsides and the Democratic party changes their direction.


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I'm starting to think LTG is really Peter Daou as he is the only person left supporting/defending Hillary.

I'm just waiting for the Verrit links to enter the thread.

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I'm starting to think LTG is really Peter Daou as he is the only person left supporting/defending Hillary.

I'm just waiting for the Verrit links to enter the thread.



Nope Fake News. According to Jorr the Resistance movement is going strong. Pick a lane.

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I'm starting to think LTG is really Peter Daou as he is the only person left supporting/defending Hillary.

I'm just waiting for the Verrit links to enter the thread.


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Again I agree with this. Many hate her but the best that we could come up with was Donald Trump? Donald Trump will go down as the most reprehensible human being to ever hold that office. Think about that for a second. If anyone is wondering what his legacy will be that is it. He has no redeeming qualities as a person.

If people are going to make the argument as to who the better person happens to be its Hillary hands down.


Trump can hold that title. Honestly I think if Hillary was elected she would be the most reprehensible human being to ever hold that office. She has no redeeming qualities as a person. It's hands down for you but that is not the case for everyone.

I really hope you do not feel or believe I defended Trump in this thread. That was not my intention. I also hope in time your anger/frustration/disappointment subsides and the Democratic party changes their direction.



It already has. I haven't been involved in these threads for awhile but the whole "identity" politics stuff is grates on me a bit.

The groups that have chosen to vote Democratic in large blocs have been traditionally groups that were shunned by Republicans. That is a historical fact.

The Republican Party has chosen to be the party of White Men. That is a historical fact. When it works they celebrate (As many white men on here are choosing to do now). When it doesn't they scream bloody murder and claim that the other guy is playing "identity politics".

If Republicans had opened their doors to other groups they'd have more support from those groups.

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 Post subject: Re: Shut It Down
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
I'm starting to think LTG is really Peter Daou as he is the only person left supporting/defending Hillary.

I'm just waiting for the Verrit links to enter the thread.


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So says the guy hoping to be someone's Massa. Has anyone accused you of playing "identity politics" lately?

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
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Making a woman who stayed with an obviously consistently unfaithful husband the face of the women's.... whatever was probably a bad idea.
:lol:

And that she lost an election to a known womanizer.

Which once again shows she was the worst fucking candidate in history :lol:

Anyone else could have hammered Trump on the grab her by the pussy comment. Hillary couldn't as doing so would just invite Juanita Broaddrick to start speaking. Anyone remember "bimbo eruption"



Hillary Clinton destroyed Trump during that first debate. If anyone had doubts as to whether he was up to the job they were affirmed following that first debate.

People wanted that asshole and now they got him and it seems like there is a bit of buyer's remorse and guilt tripping going on.

As far as worse candidate goes its simply invalid to keep suggesting that. Mondale won all of one state (his own). There was a red blue divide even then and he still lost by 48 states.

Nixon was never well liked either and the country was in the throes of its most unpopular war ever and McGovern still got blasted.

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ToxicMasculinity wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
I'm starting to think LTG is really Peter Daou as he is the only person left supporting/defending Hillary.

I'm just waiting for the Verrit links to enter the thread.


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So says the guy hoping to be someone's Massa. Has anyone accused you of playing "identity politics" lately?


I'm not interested in owning people. Thanks though

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I think MANY just want to tank the whole country.

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 Post subject: Re: Shut It Down
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
long time guy wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Making a woman who stayed with an obviously consistently unfaithful husband the face of the women's.... whatever was probably a bad idea.



Was voting for a serial adultering, racist, sexual assalting, scam artist, xenophobic liar necessarily a good idea?


One of these two "bad ideas" promised a large number of Americans that their job would either be secure, or return to them. That bad idea won. This is not a coincidence.

You keep insisting that millions of Americans should have voted against their own interest (relative to statements of intent by the respective candidates) in order to not elect a Bad Person, and that's just unreasonable.


Trump has been office for a year. Has he addressed any of the alleged interests of these millions of people that you speak? Has his economic policies spoken to them? What about his Health Care policies? Immigration? Of the 3 which one has he most directly addressed?

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ToxicMasculinity wrote:
long time guy wrote:
ToxicMasculinity wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
I'm starting to think LTG is really Peter Daou as he is the only person left supporting/defending Hillary.

I'm just waiting for the Verrit links to enter the thread.


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So says the guy hoping to be someone's Massa. Has anyone accused you of playing "identity politics" lately?


I'm not interested in owning people. Thanks though



You sure seem to be awfully interested in those Master's degrees however. Guys living on plantatations were never supposed to attain such things were they Hoss?

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It already has. I haven't been involved in these threads for awhile but the whole "identity" politics stuff is grates on me a bit.

The groups that have chosen to vote Democratic in large blocs have been traditionally groups that were shunned by Republicans. That is a historical fact.

The Republican Party has chosen to be the party of White Men. That is a historical fact. When it works they celebrate (As many white men on here are choosing to do now). When it doesn't they scream bloody murder and claim that the other guy is playing "identity politics".

If Republicans had opened their doors to other groups they'd have more support from those groups.


I'm not arguing identity politics. I'm saying the identity that the Democrats are taking (especially in this last election cycle) is a bad one. I don't think it was bad in the past, even when I did not agree with it. It did not and will not appeal to voters that they usually can get. They are now excluding and turning away voters they once had.


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long time guy wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
long time guy wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Making a woman who stayed with an obviously consistently unfaithful husband the face of the women's.... whatever was probably a bad idea.



Was voting for a serial adultering, racist, sexual assalting, scam artist, xenophobic liar necessarily a good idea?


One of these two "bad ideas" promised a large number of Americans that their job would either be secure, or return to them. That bad idea won. This is not a coincidence.

You keep insisting that millions of Americans should have voted against their own interest (relative to statements of intent by the respective candidates) in order to not elect a Bad Person, and that's just unreasonable.


Trump has been office for a year. Has he addressed any of the alleged interests of these millions of people that you speak? Has his economic policies spoken to them? What about his Health Care policies? Immigration? Of the 3 which one has he most directly addressed?


Was "No vote taksises backsies" not part of your master's curriculum?


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ToxicMasculinity wrote:
long time guy wrote:
ToxicMasculinity wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
I'm starting to think LTG is really Peter Daou as he is the only person left supporting/defending Hillary.

I'm just waiting for the Verrit links to enter the thread.


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So says the guy hoping to be someone's Massa. Has anyone accused you of playing "identity politics" lately?


I'm not interested in owning people. Thanks though



You sure seem to be awfully interested in those Master's degrees however. Guys living on plantatations were never supposed to attain such things were they Hoss?



There it is!

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long time guy wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Making a woman who stayed with an obviously consistently unfaithful husband the face of the women's.... whatever was probably a bad idea.
:lol:

And that she lost an election to a known womanizer.

Which once again shows she was the worst fucking candidate in history :lol:

Anyone else could have hammered Trump on the grab her by the pussy comment. Hillary couldn't as doing so would just invite Juanita Broaddrick to start speaking. Anyone remember "bimbo eruption"



Hillary Clinton destroyed Trump during that first debate. If anyone had doubts as to whether he was up to the job they were affirmed following that first debate.

People wanted that asshole and now they got him and it seems like there is a bit of buyer's remorse and guilt tripping going on.

As far as worse candidate goes its simply invalid to keep suggesting that. Mondale won all of one state (his own). There was a red blue divide even then and he still lost by 48 states.

Nixon was never well liked either and the country was in the throes of its most unpopular war ever and McGovern still got blasted.


Nixon's approval rating was at ~60% during the second half of 1972. McGovern had no prayer against him. Nixon ended up with historically low approval ratings, but that was after Watergate.

https://historyinpieces.com/research/ni ... al-ratings

See? I debate using facts to back up my positions. You should learn how to do that sometimes.

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 Post subject: Re: Shut It Down
PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:19 pm 
Trump nailing a porn star bareback right after his son was born was just a plan to delgitimize his election and install Hillary as President, swearing her in on a pink pussy hat instead of the Bible. I don't know why you people don't get it!!


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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Making a woman who stayed with an obviously consistently unfaithful husband the face of the women's.... whatever was probably a bad idea.
:lol:

And that she lost an election to a known womanizer.

Which once again shows she was the worst fucking candidate in history :lol:

Anyone else could have hammered Trump on the grab her by the pussy comment. Hillary couldn't as doing so would just invite Juanita Broaddrick to start speaking. Anyone remember "bimbo eruption"



Hillary Clinton destroyed Trump during that first debate. If anyone had doubts as to whether he was up to the job they were affirmed following that first debate.

People wanted that asshole and now they got him and it seems like there is a bit of buyer's remorse and guilt tripping going on.

As far as worse candidate goes its simply invalid to keep suggesting that. Mondale won all of one state (his own). There was a red blue divide even then and he still lost by 48 states.

Nixon was never well liked either and the country was in the throes of its most unpopular war ever and McGovern still got blasted.


Nixon's approval rating was at ~60% during the second half of 1972. McGovern had no prayer against him. Nixon ended up with historically low approval ratings, but that was after Watergate.

https://historyinpieces.com/research/ni ... al-ratings

See? I debate using facts to back up my positions. You should learn how to do that sometimes.



Nixon won the Electoral College 520-17. How is that for facts?

McGovern was so bad that the Democrats had to recalibrate the party following his defeat. He single handidly was viewed as the destroyer of the left wing movement in this country.

Its as One Post stated awhile ago. You really are a lightweight masquerading as some sort of authority. You don't know most of the shit that you spew on here.

Nixon was viewed as the favorite. He won in a damn landslide. Most people didnt expect it to go that way. Do your research for a change.

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long time guy wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Making a woman who stayed with an obviously consistently unfaithful husband the face of the women's.... whatever was probably a bad idea.
:lol:

And that she lost an election to a known womanizer.

Which once again shows she was the worst fucking candidate in history :lol:

Anyone else could have hammered Trump on the grab her by the pussy comment. Hillary couldn't as doing so would just invite Juanita Broaddrick to start speaking. Anyone remember "bimbo eruption"



Hillary Clinton destroyed Trump during that first debate. If anyone had doubts as to whether he was up to the job they were affirmed following that first debate.

People wanted that asshole and now they got him and it seems like there is a bit of buyer's remorse and guilt tripping going on.

As far as worse candidate goes its simply invalid to keep suggesting that. Mondale won all of one state (his own). There was a red blue divide even then and he still lost by 48 states.

Nixon was never well liked either and the country was in the throes of its most unpopular war ever and McGovern still got blasted.


Nixon's approval rating was at ~60% during the second half of 1972. McGovern had no prayer against him. Nixon ended up with historically low approval ratings, but that was after Watergate.

https://historyinpieces.com/research/ni ... al-ratings

See? I debate using facts to back up my positions. You should learn how to do that sometimes.



Nixon won the Electoral College 520-17. How is that for facts?

McGovern was so bad that the Democrats had to recalibrate the party following his defeat. He single handidly was viewed as the destroyer of the left wing movement in this country.

Its as One Post stated awhile ago. You really are a lightweight masquerading as some sort of authority. You don't know most of the shit that you spew on here.

Nixon was viewed as the favorite. He won in a damn landslide. Most people didnt expect it to go that way. Do your research for a change.
and with 60% of the popular vote, an amount which actually falls slightly below his approval rating on the date of the election. Seriously, it was a landslide because Nixon was actually liked at one point and was considered to have been doing a good job.

No candidate, not even Obama, could ever unseat or come close to unseating a sitting POTUS with a 60% approval rating. That is a fact. It is not a stretch to say that Hillary is the worst candidate as she literally had almost no chance of losing from the moment the candidates were chosen, yet she somehow managed to cough it up to Trump. By losing to that dumbass, she has earned the title of worst candidate

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You really are a lightweight masquerading as some sort of authority. You don't know most of the shit that you spew on here.
Do your research for a change.


Please, tell me more about how you don't like to make or take things personal on the board...


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You really are a lightweight masquerading as some sort of authority. You don't know most of the shit that you spew on here.
Do your research for a change.


Please, tell me more about how you don't like to make or take things personal on the board...



If you weren't so biased and lacking in elementary reading comprehension you'd have read where the personal shot was levied earlier in the discourse. I will bump it for you as a means of helping you out a bit. Once done i hope to get a response from you.

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It is not a stretch to say that Hillary is the worst candidate as she literally had almost no chance of losing from the moment the candidates were chosen, yet she somehow managed to cough it up to Trump. By losing to that dumbass, she has earned the title of worst candidate


I don't even know how this is up for debate.

She lost the Presidency to a guy who

A. Didn't really want to run in the first place.
B. Is best known for being on a reality show.

Think about that. That's a fucking 2 foot putt and she Scott Hoched it.

I hope she goes away forever.


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Are you seriously trying to become a punch line on this board?



JLN are you there?

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It is not a stretch to say that Hillary is the worst candidate as she literally had almost no chance of losing from the moment the candidates were chosen, yet she somehow managed to cough it up to Trump. By losing to that dumbass, she has earned the title of worst candidate


I don't even know how this is up for debate.

She lost the Presidency to a guy who

A. Didn't really want to run in the first place.
B. Is best known for being on a reality show.

Think about that. That's a fucking 2 foot putt and she Scott Hoched it.

I hope she goes away forever.



She has. I think Jorr is the only person that hates the fact that she has left the stage.

I don't want her to run again. She's done.

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Trump nailing a porn star bareback right after his son was born was just a plan to delgitimize his election and install Hillary as President, swearing her in on a pink pussy hat instead of the Bible. I don't know why you people don't get it!!



Oh my God! Baby is a Victorian prude. It's just sex! Move on.

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This is why we all should have united behind Marco Rubio.

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https://historyinpieces.com/research/ni ... al-ratings

Nixon's approval rating dipped below 50% for a period in 1971. it climbed steadily during 1972 and its safe to say that McGovern's ineptitude as a candidate had something to do with it.

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When do the Rubio fans have our protest?

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https://historyinpieces.com/research/nixon-approval-ratings

Nixon's approval rating dipped below 50% for a period in 1971. it climbed steadily during 1972 and its safe to say that McGovern's ineptitude as a candidate had something to do with it.

he reached 60% in the first half of 1972, before McGovern was nominated. His climb in approval was the result of policy successes he had in that year. Look at the 1972 graph to see that his rise is consistent throughout the year and first reaches 60% before the nominee was named for the Dems.

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