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The party that calls Americans "deplorable" and illegal immigrants "dreamers"

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We knew with the pussy hate out that the Trumpkins would be triggered today.


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The party that calls Americans "deplorable" and illegal immigrants "dreamers"


Now just what behind closed doors would most trumpets call me? :wink:

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The party that calls Americans "deplorable" and illegal immigrants "dreamers"


Now just what behind closed doors would most trumpets call me? :wink:


Most conservatives would call you a racial slur? Is that the insinuation?

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The party that calls Americans "deplorable" and illegal immigrants "dreamers"


Now just what behind closed doors would most trumpets call me? :wink:


Most conservatives would call you a racial slur? Is that the insinuation?


I said trumpets, not conservatives. I'd like to believe that there are plenty of honest, non bigoted conservatives out there

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Many liberals are worked up today. It’s entertaining.

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Many liberals are worked up today. It’s entertaining.


Yes it is.

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Many liberals are worked up today. It’s entertaining.

How was your hangover Mike?


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I am not sure what you mean. Everything happened as I wanted and you reacted as expected.

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We need to disarm and sanction the United States before they hurt other countries that still have a chance.

LOL.

Tell France to come and try.

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Outside of the sanctuary cities, MANY like to think of themselves as family values voters. Fucking over 700-800k people who have lived here well and contributed to this country should cause them shame. Or at least pangs of conscience.

But it won't because of... :wink:


That's all well and good, and as I said, I think most Americans sympathize with them, but there really shouldn't be opposition to protecting the borders.

Yes there should. All the data suggests it would be a waste of resources.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Outside of the sanctuary cities, MANY like to think of themselves as family values voters. Fucking over 700-800k people who have lived here well and contributed to this country should cause them shame. Or at least pangs of conscience.

But it won't because of... :wink:


That's all well and good, and as I said, I think most Americans sympathize with them, but there really shouldn't be opposition to protecting the borders.


I think the generally accepted number is that anywhere from 30-40% of illegal immigrants come here via airplane. So is it fair to say you would be in favor of immediately eliminating all international flights into the US?

It would be a completely effective solution to protect our boarders you are so concerned about.


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FavreFan wrote:
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Outside of the sanctuary cities, MANY like to think of themselves as family values voters. Fucking over 700-800k people who have lived here well and contributed to this country should cause them shame. Or at least pangs of conscience.

But it won't because of... :wink:


That's all well and good, and as I said, I think most Americans sympathize with them, but there really shouldn't be opposition to protecting the borders.

Yes there should. All the data suggests it would be a waste of resources.


Almost all the time you make sense. Now you do not. Countries have borders for a reason. Otherwise what’s the point. Many other things can be sensibly argued. But not borders.

The political arguments for just Willy nilly let people come and go escapes me. Sure refugee and humanitarian issues arise but unfettered free access is not likely good.

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We need to disarm and sanction the United States before they hurt other countries that still have a chance.

LOL.

Tell France to come and try.


He's on Parisfanatics.com strangely complaining about his shortcomings and perceived slights.

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pittmike wrote:
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Outside of the sanctuary cities, MANY like to think of themselves as family values voters. Fucking over 700-800k people who have lived here well and contributed to this country should cause them shame. Or at least pangs of conscience.

But it won't because of... :wink:


That's all well and good, and as I said, I think most Americans sympathize with them, but there really shouldn't be opposition to protecting the borders.

Yes there should. All the data suggests it would be a waste of resources.


Almost all the time you make sense. Now you do not. Countries have borders for a reason. Otherwise what’s the point. Many other things can be sensibly argued. But not borders.

The political arguments for just Willy nilly let people come and go escapes me. Sure refugee and humanitarian issues arise but unfettered free access is not likely good.

Illegal and legal immigration has always been great for our economy. Almost all of the data suggests immigrants, regardless of legal status, are less likely to be violent criminals and more likely to contribute to our society in a beneficial way than natural citizens.

We became the greatest country on Earth because of our historically liberal immigration policies. It would be a damn shame to change that.

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FF immigration is awesome. Why should we bother to have any laws at all?

Seriously, immigration is generally beneficial. So why even bother with our laws or security whatsoever?

Please tell me with certainty how my life will be over the next 15 years?

Thanks, mike.

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We need to disarm and sanction the United States before they hurt other countries that still have a chance.

LOL.

Tell France to come and try.


He's on Parisfanatics.com strangely complaining about his shortcomings and perceived slights.


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FF immigration is awesome. Why should we bother to have any laws at all?

Seriously, immigration is generally beneficial. So why even bother with our laws or security whatsoever?

Please tell me with certainty how my life will be over the next 15 years?

Thanks, mike.

I can’t help you with the third line of your post.

But I’m a fan of immigrants and I really dislike the process we currently have for approving it legally. We can even get into stories of middle eastern folks who have risked their lives to help us overseas and we still wouldn’t let in afterwards. It’s shameful shit. We need to open up the borders and stop living in fear like so many do now. It’s ironic to me that half the country is afraid of guns and not illegal immigrants, and half the country is scared of illegal immigrants and not guns. Too many people letting fear override their common sense is the biggest problem in this country.

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The Democrats want illegals because they want their votes. If they can get amnesty passed they can win the White House from now till the end of time.

The issue with immigration is that there needs to be assimilation. The other problem is that between abortion and birth control the US American born population would decrease without immigration.

There is a lot of misinformation with illegals. There is a lot of crime committed by them that has not been properly documented. It seems okay until someone you know or love gets killed in a DUI by a guy the government has looked the other way on.

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The Democrats want illegals because they want their votes. If they can get amnesty passed they can win the White House from now till the end of time.

The issue with immigration is that there needs to be assimilation. The other problem is that between abortion and birth control the US American born population would decrease without immigration.

There is a lot of misinformation with illegals. There is a lot of crime committed by them that has not been properly documented. It seems okay until someone you know or love gets killed in a DUI by a guy the government has looked the other way on.


Crime.

Boy, I don't know...

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The Democrats want illegals because they want their votes. If they can get amnesty passed they can win the White House from now till the end of time.

The issue with immigration is that there needs to be assimilation. The other problem is that between abortion and birth control the US American born population would decrease without immigration.

There is a lot of misinformation with illegals. There is a lot of crime committed by them that has not been properly documented. It seems okay until someone you know or love gets killed in a DUI by a guy the government has looked the other way on.


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The Democrats want illegals because they want their votes. If they can get amnesty passed they can win the White House from now till the end of time.

The issue with immigration is that there needs to be assimilation. The other problem is that between abortion and birth control the US American born population would decrease without immigration.

There is a lot of misinformation with illegals. There is a lot of crime committed by them that has not been properly documented. It seems okay until someone you know or love gets killed in a DUI by a guy the government has looked the other way on.


There certainly is.

And it has nothing to do with "illegals."

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The government can chill for a while. The country will be OK.

NEW RULE: Dreamers can come into the country as long as they register to vote Republican, punishable by immediate deportation upon any violation.

Boom.

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We need to disarm and sanction the United States before they hurt other countries that still have a chance.

LOL.

Tell France to come and try.


He's on Parisfanatics.com strangely complaining about his shortcomings and perceived slights.


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The government can chill for a while. The country will be OK.


Yup. Most of the government is non-essential, which most of us already knew.

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Well, if they're illegal....come on, man. That's a problem.

In any case, you can find experts to support anything you claim about immigration. It's really amazing, and there are some really good arguments no matter what position you hold.


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Well, if they're illegal....come on, man. That's a problem.

Agreed. It’s really a shame that we can’t find better ways to expedite the process of obtaining legal residency. It’s the biggest issue in immigration reform and neither side really seems all that enthusiastic about addressing it. Much easier to blame the poor immigrants who are simply looking for the land of opportunity we love to advertise but hate to allow.

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The misinformation was that the government was not being honest about the crime stats. They do not have a number on how many foreign nationals are in jail in the United States.

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The misinformation was that the government was not being honest about the crime stats. They do not have a number on how many foreign nationals are in jail in the United States.

We lock up more of our own natural citizens than any country in the history of the planet. This criticism is ridiculous.

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Outside of the sanctuary cities, MANY like to think of themselves as family values voters. Fucking over 700-800k people who have lived here well and contributed to this country should cause them shame. Or at least pangs of conscience.

But it won't because of... :wink:


That's all well and good, and as I said, I think most Americans sympathize with them, but there really shouldn't be opposition to protecting the borders.

Yes there should. All the data suggests it would be a waste of resources.


I'm not talking about a border wall, but a country without borders isn't a country. Maybe you're in favor of that. That's fine.

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