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Welp another idiot actor/reality star wants to genius progress.

To think that President Carter 1st put solar panels on the White House 40 years ago, just for Bonzo's buddy to rip them off a year or two later.

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Tariffs on fuckin solar panels?
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 Post subject: Re: New Tariff
PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:52 pm 
The something something tariff act.. anyone? anyone? The Hawley Smoot Tariff Act....


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I agree 100% with JORR that no president has ever understood alternative sources of energy, trade deficits and washing machines like this strong and good president. This president has studied the issue with his typically keen eye and has made the plain-spoken, broad-shouldered decision that a move away from solar energy will move the US that much closer to energy independence and Make America Great Again. It's called leadership, people. We've been without it for so long thanks to that loser Muslim Booga Wooga Odumbo that we don't recognize it when we see it.

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Tariffs on fuckin solar panels?
Dude.

Twice as many people in the U.S. work in the solar industry than in coal. This should level the playing field.

I’m sure the fossil fuel industry is celebrating bigly...but I’m also sure they had no influence on this.

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I agree 100% with JORR that no president has ever understood alternative sources of energy, trade deficits and washing machines like this strong and good president. This president has studied the issue with his typically keen eye and has made the plain-spoken, broad-shouldered decision that a move away from solar energy will move the US that much closer to energy independence and Make America Great Again. It's called leadership, people. We've been without it for so long thanks to that loser Muslim Booga Wooga Odumbo that we don't recognize it when we see it.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Especially at the Booga Wooga flourish.

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Solar panels use up too much of the sun. Good move.

Just like wind power is bad because annoying useless birds are dumb and can't figure out windmills.

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Tariff on imported panels only


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Tariff on imported panels only

What’s your point?

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
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Tariff on imported panels only

What’s your point?

Uh.... #MAGA... buy American panels


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billypootons wrote:
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Tariff on imported panels only

What’s your point?

Uh.... #MAGA... buy American panels


We use imported parts on our great American panels.

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Too bad they couldn't get the real Dr. Meinheimer to deliver his recommendation speech.

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 Post subject: Re: New Tariff
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billypootons wrote:
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Tariff on imported panels only

What’s your point?

Uh.... #MAGA... buy American panels

I’m assuming you understand why this is not really beneficial to the vast majority of the employees noted previously.

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I applaud this because mass adoption of solar panels and batteries would decimate future power plant projects. We need to keep relying on central sources of power so a few people can stay really rich.

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Trump went after college football fans. Good to see him attack the hippies too before he loses my support.

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 Post subject: Re: New Tariff
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Not about solar power. Trump is firing a shot across China’s bow.


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 Post subject: Re: New Tariff
PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:39 pm 
Nas wrote:
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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
billypootons wrote:
Tariff on imported panels only

What’s your point?

Uh.... #MAGA... buy American panels


We use imported parts on our great American panels.

And it's only for 4 years. If you think our great American companies are going to invest in new manufacturing that will come on line just as the tariffs are gone again I think you are fooling yourself.


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Not about solar power. Trump is firing a shot across China’s bow.

Tariffs on Chinese goods have been tried and failed in the past. It won’t work this time either.

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Not about solar power. Trump is firing a shot across China’s bow.

Tariffs on Chinese goods have been tried and failed in the past. It won’t work this time either.


Not supposed to “work”. Supposed to be used for leverage and aggravate the Chinese stock market.


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Not about solar power. Trump is firing a shot across China’s bow.

Tariffs on Chinese goods have been tried and failed in the past. It won’t work this time either.


Not supposed to “work”. Supposed to be used for leverage and aggravate the Chinese stock market.

Good luck with that.

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tariffs are just fucking stupid on any product. If someone else produces an item at a cheaper cost than you can, then you should find another product to make.

If US solar companies can't compete, then they simply don't deserve to be in business.

Ditto for Whirlpool, who is the main beneficiary of the washing machine tariff. That one is going to bite as I'll have to buy one in June after we close on the new build. I'll still get the damn Samsung because it's the best one on the market. If Whirlpool can't compete with Samsung or LG, then that's too bad. Build a better product.

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Not about solar power. Trump is firing a shot across China’s bow.

Tariffs on Chinese goods have been tried and failed in the past. It won’t work this time either.


Not supposed to “work”. Supposed to be used for leverage and aggravate the Chinese stock market.

Good luck with that.

it's not all about China, the washing machine tariff will hit South Korea more than anyone.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
Not about solar power. Trump is firing a shot across China’s bow.

Tariffs on Chinese goods have been tried and failed in the past. It won’t work this time either.


Not supposed to “work”. Supposed to be used for leverage and aggravate the Chinese stock market.

Good luck with that.

it's not all about China, the washing machine tariff will hit South Korea more than anyone.


China subsidizes the solar panels which makes them as cheap as they are. By putting a tariff on them, the subsidies are basically wasted money. The point is to piss them off, not make US companies competitive.


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Big Chicagoan wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
Not about solar power. Trump is firing a shot across China’s bow.

Tariffs on Chinese goods have been tried and failed in the past. It won’t work this time either.


Not supposed to “work”. Supposed to be used for leverage and aggravate the Chinese stock market.

Good luck with that.

it's not all about China, the washing machine tariff will hit South Korea more than anyone.


China subsidizes the solar panels which makes them as cheap as they are. By putting a tariff on them, the subsidies are basically wasted money. The point is to piss them off, not make US companies competitive.

It may piss them off, but that doesn’t give us leverage...quite the opposite. Last time we tried something like this they slapped a tariff on U.S. chicken being exported to China, which cost U.S. suppliers over $1 billion. And you didn’t respond to Ogie’s point on the washers. Why do we want to piss off South Korea?

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Let's not call it a tariff, but rather an indirect payment for draining the swamp, kinda like the Mexican payments on the Hindenburg like wall.

$130,000 at a time. :alien:

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