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You have to admit that it does look bad for Israel to turn refugees away like this. That being said, it's worth noting that Africans are not fleeing to Israel's highly successful neighbor of Jordan (something like one-fourth of Israel's GDP). There must have been something they liked about this (((apartheid ethnostate))), right?

And yeah, "Palestinian" Arabs were Syrians until it became politically advantageous to have a discrete nationality, we've been over this.

Jordan currently hosts thousands of Somali and Sudanese refugees. But please, be more ignorant.

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That land was never called Palestine until after 135 when the Romans renamed Judea in an attempt to try to remove the Jewish connection to the land after the Bar Kochba Revolt.

This is false. The Greeks referred to the land as Palestine as early as 5th century BC.

Again, and as always, Ogie's exact argument is also grounds to disband the United States, since it is not formed from one single ethnoculutral background, separate from any others.

The Greeks never called the land Palestine. You are mistaking Palestine with Philistine, who shares nothing in common with so-called Palestinians. Philistines were Greek in origin where as the so-called Palestinians are certainly Arabic in origin and most likely descendants of the groups which came into the lands from the Arabian Peninsula in the 7th century when the Caliphate was formed. That is why Palestinians are Arab and not Greek. That is also why they are non-distinct as an ethnic group from Arab peoples within Syria and Jordan.

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The first clear use of the term Palestine to refer to the entire area between Phoenicia and Egypt was in 5th century BC Ancient Greece, when Herodotus wrote of a "district of Syria, called Palaistinê" in The Histories, which included the Judean mountains and the Jordan Rift Valley.


How many times can you be wrong in a single thread? Only time will tell!


And once again, that is referring to the Phililstines, who were there in the 11-12th centery BC. Palestine is just a Greek translation of Phlistine. The people referred to there have absolutely no connection to the Palestinians or modern Palestine as they were an Aegean people, not an Arabic people.

Even when you think you are right the facts come swooping in to prove you wrong. The land was called Judea from 935 BC up until the Bar Kochba revolt in 135 AD.

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Palestine is called Palestine in the Bible which I believe was written prior to 1948.

I did a search here, no results found

https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearc ... chtype=all

https://focusonjerusalem.com/thebibleandpalestine.htm

Read it in the original Hebrew... That is Philistine you illiterate twat

http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo ... pter-4.htm

For the record, the word word in the text is: פְּלָ֑שֶׁת

Nice try though

Also, your source had the wrong chapter. A quick look at the Book of Joel will tell you that is chapter 4, not chapter 3... Fucking amateur hour here.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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Palestine is called Palestine in the Bible which I believe was written prior to 1948.

I did a search here, no results found

https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearc ... chtype=all

https://focusonjerusalem.com/thebibleandpalestine.htm

Read it in the original Hebrew... That is Philistine you illiterate twat

http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo ... pter-4.htm

For the record, the word word in the text is: פְּלָ֑שֶׁת

Nice try though

Also, your source had the wrong chapter. A quick look at the Book of Joel will tell you that is chapter 4, not chapter 3... Fucking amateur hour here.




Can you explain to me what the shared genetics of Hungarian and Ethiopian Jews happen to be? You stated that Jews have shared "genetics". What are the shared "genetics" of these two groups?



2nd Why would these groups from two separate continents be more entitled to land located in the Middle East than Palestinians?

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long time guy wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
IMU wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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Palestine is called Palestine in the Bible which I believe was written prior to 1948.

I did a search here, no results found

https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearc ... chtype=all

https://focusonjerusalem.com/thebibleandpalestine.htm

Read it in the original Hebrew... That is Philistine you illiterate twat

http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo ... pter-4.htm

For the record, the word word in the text is: פְּלָ֑שֶׁת

Nice try though

Also, your source had the wrong chapter. A quick look at the Book of Joel will tell you that is chapter 4, not chapter 3... Fucking amateur hour here.




Can you explain to me what the shared genetics of Hungarian and Ethiopian Jews happen to be? You stated that Jews have shared "genetics". What are the shared "genetics" of these two groups?



2nd Why would these groups from two separate continents be more entitled to land located in the Middle East than Palestinians?


Genetically Ashkenazi Jews can be linked to Mizrahi and Sephardic Jews. In fact, Ashkenazi Jews despite a European appearance are genetically proven to originate from the Levant along with other Jewish ethnic groups. Once again, this group has a shared history, a shared language (Hebrew remained with all 3 groups), a shared homeland, and a shared culture. This is one which can be dated back 3,000 years and wasn't just created in the 20th century as the so-called Palestinian people were when it became politically convenient for them.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/10/science/10jews.html

The Ethiopian Jews are not part of the original tribes and thus don't have shared genetics. Their origin can be traced back to a group which traveled to Israel about 2500 years ago and brought it back with them when they returned to Ethiopia. Israel was not founded for them, but they of course are afforded the rights of the Law of Return as they are Jewish. The fact that this group exists does not negate the fact that the Jewish people are a distinct ethnic group and by all definitions a nation.

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Palestine is called Palestine in the Bible which I believe was written prior to 1948.

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philistines

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
IMU wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Baby McNown wrote:
Palestine is called Palestine in the Bible which I believe was written prior to 1948.

I did a search here, no results found

https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearc ... chtype=all

https://focusonjerusalem.com/thebibleandpalestine.htm

Read it in the original Hebrew... That is Philistine you illiterate twat

http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo ... pter-4.htm

For the record, the word word in the text is: פְּלָ֑שֶׁת

Nice try though

Also, your source had the wrong chapter. A quick look at the Book of Joel will tell you that is chapter 4, not chapter 3... Fucking amateur hour here.




Can you explain to me what the shared genetics of Hungarian and Ethiopian Jews happen to be? You stated that Jews have shared "genetics". What are the shared "genetics" of these two groups?



2nd Why would these groups from two separate continents be more entitled to land located in the Middle East than Palestinians?


Genetically Ashkenazi Jews can be linked to Mizrahi and Sephardic Jews. In fact, Ashkenazi Jews despite a European appearance are genetically proven to originate from the Levant along with other Jewish ethnic groups. Once again, this group has a shared history, a shared language (Hebrew remained with all 3 groups), a shared homeland, and a shared culture. This is one which can be dated back 3,000 years and wasn't just created in the 20th century as the so-called Palestinian people were when it became politically convenient for them.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/10/science/10jews.html

The Ethiopian Jews are not part of the original tribes and thus don't have shared genetics. Their origin can be traced back to a group which traveled to Israel about 2500 years ago and brought it back with them when they returned to Ethiopia. Israel was not founded for them, but they of course are afforded the rights of the Law of Return as they are Jewish. The fact that this group exists does not negate the fact that the Jewish people are a distinct ethnic group and by all definitions a nation.




Thanks for answering and in answering you help in validating my point. Shared genetics is based upon ethnic and not religious traits. There isn't anything inherent in being Jewish. Jews with shared traits are those that inhabited similar areas of the world. Middle Eastern Jews don't look much different than Palestinian Arabs. In fact a Palestinian Arab has more in common genetically with a Middle Eastern Jew than he does an Ethiopian or Hungarian Jew.

When You state that Palestinians are a contrived group with essentially similar characteristics as Jordanians and Syrians they should. They are Arabian after all.


This applies to Jews as well. Jews are at their core united by religion. This genetic connection that you speak relates to geographical characteristics not genetics. The shared traits genetically occur as a result of inhabiting similar areas geographically.

It is disingenuous to suggest that Jews share a common story also. Again South African Jews do not share the same story as Polish or German Jews. It is virtually impossible.

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Genetically Ashkenazi Jews can be linked to Mizrahi and Sephardic Jews. In fact, Ashkenazi Jews despite a European appearance are genetically proven to originate from the Levant along with other Jewish ethnic groups. Once again, this group has a shared history, a shared language (Hebrew remained with all 3 groups), a shared homeland, and a shared culture. This is one which can be dated back 3,000 years and wasn't just created in the 20th century as the so-called Palestinian people were when it became politically convenient for them.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/10/science/10jews.html

The Ethiopian Jews are not part of the original tribes and thus don't have shared genetics. Their origin can be traced back to a group which traveled to Israel about 2500 years ago and brought it back with them when they returned to Ethiopia. Israel was not founded for them, but they of course are afforded the rights of the Law of Return as they are Jewish. The fact that this group exists does not negate the fact that the Jewish people are a distinct ethnic group and by all definitions a nation.




Thanks for answering and in answering you help in validating my point. Shared genetics is based upon ethnic and not religious traits. There isn't anything inherent in being Jewish. Jews with shared traits are those that inhabited similar areas of the world. Middle Eastern Jews don't look much different than Palestinian Arabs. In fact a Palestinian Arab has more in common genetically with a Middle Eastern Jew than he does an Ethiopian or Hungarian Jew.

When You state that Palestinians are a contrived group with essentially similar characteristics as Jordanians and Syrians they should. They are Arabian after all.


This applies to Jews as well. Jews are at their core united by religion. This genetic connection that you speak relates to geographical characteristics not genetics. The shared traits genetically occur as a result of inhabiting similar areas geographically.

It is disingenuous to suggest that Jews share a common story also. Again South African Jews do not share the same story as Polish or German Jews. It is virtually impossible.


You cannot honestly deny the fact that the Jewish people are a nation, which is what my point is. Here is the dictionary:

na·tion
ˈnāSH(ə)n
noun
a large aggregate of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory.

How does that not define the Jewish people?

Common descent: all major Jewish groups come from the tribes and the Levant, proven by genetic testing
History: Their shared history on the Levant and even when scattered via the diaspora, all groups clung to that history.
Culture: There is certainly a common Jewish culture
Language: Hebrew
Inhabiting a particular territory: Once again, Judea



The Jews are not only a nation, but a very distinct one from all others. No other group shares their language, history, culture, or genetics. This is why they have a claim for self determination on their own nation state.

You can also make the same argument for the Kurds, which is probably one of the reasons Israel is a major backer of them. The Palestinians on the other hand are 100% contrived within the last 60 years. If you try to go down the checklist of what makes a people a nation, then what on that list separates them from a Jordanian or Syrian? Jews on the other hand can go back 3,000+ years with archeology and genetic testing to prove it.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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Palestine is called Palestine in the Bible which I believe was written prior to 1948.

I did a search here, no results found

https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearc ... chtype=all

https://focusonjerusalem.com/thebibleandpalestine.htm

Read it in the original Hebrew... That is Philistine you illiterate twat

http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo ... pter-4.htm

For the record, the word word in the text is: פְּלָ֑שֶׁת

Nice try though

Also, your source had the wrong chapter. A quick look at the Book of Joel will tell you that is chapter 4, not chapter 3... Fucking amateur hour here.




Can you explain to me what the shared genetics of Hungarian and Ethiopian Jews happen to be? You stated that Jews have shared "genetics". What are the shared "genetics" of these two groups?



2nd Why would these groups from two separate continents be more entitled to land located in the Middle East than Palestinians?


Genetically Ashkenazi Jews can be linked to Mizrahi and Sephardic Jews. In fact, Ashkenazi Jews despite a European appearance are genetically proven to originate from the Levant along with other Jewish ethnic groups. Once again, this group has a shared history, a shared language (Hebrew remained with all 3 groups), a shared homeland, and a shared culture. This is one which can be dated back 3,000 years and wasn't just created in the 20th century as the so-called Palestinian people were when it became politically convenient for them.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/10/science/10jews.html

The Ethiopian Jews are not part of the original tribes and thus don't have shared genetics. Their origin can be traced back to a group which traveled to Israel about 2500 years ago and brought it back with them when they returned to Ethiopia. Israel was not founded for them, but they of course are afforded the rights of the Law of Return as they are Jewish. The fact that this group exists does not negate the fact that the Jewish people are a distinct ethnic group and by all definitions a nation.


Strangely enough when I was coming up in the 70s and early 80s my Jewish friends and teachers never brought these points up in polite community.

Indeed I remember that wasn't an issue until the African turmoil of the early 80s.

Or maybe I'm misremembering

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
IMU wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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Palestine is called Palestine in the Bible which I believe was written prior to 1948.

I did a search here, no results found

https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearc ... chtype=all

https://focusonjerusalem.com/thebibleandpalestine.htm

Read it in the original Hebrew... That is Philistine you illiterate twat

http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo ... pter-4.htm

For the record, the word word in the text is: פְּלָ֑שֶׁת

Nice try though

Also, your source had the wrong chapter. A quick look at the Book of Joel will tell you that is chapter 4, not chapter 3... Fucking amateur hour here.




Can you explain to me what the shared genetics of Hungarian and Ethiopian Jews happen to be? You stated that Jews have shared "genetics". What are the shared "genetics" of these two groups?



2nd Why would these groups from two separate continents be more entitled to land located in the Middle East than Palestinians?


Genetically Ashkenazi Jews can be linked to Mizrahi and Sephardic Jews. In fact, Ashkenazi Jews despite a European appearance are genetically proven to originate from the Levant along with other Jewish ethnic groups. Once again, this group has a shared history, a shared language (Hebrew remained with all 3 groups), a shared homeland, and a shared culture. This is one which can be dated back 3,000 years and wasn't just created in the 20th century as the so-called Palestinian people were when it became politically convenient for them.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/10/science/10jews.html

The Ethiopian Jews are not part of the original tribes and thus don't have shared genetics. Their origin can be traced back to a group which traveled to Israel about 2500 years ago and brought it back with them when they returned to Ethiopia. Israel was not founded for them, but they of course are afforded the rights of the Law of Return as they are Jewish. The fact that this group exists does not negate the fact that the Jewish people are a distinct ethnic group and by all definitions a nation.


Saw a documentary once that theorized the Ethiopian Jews were the Lost Tribe who split Judea with the Ark of Covenant (of Raiders of the Lost Ark fame) when the Romans were coming (or something like that). Apparently there is an artifact maintained in a museum someone in Ethiopia or Africa that the documentary maker thought was part of "The Ark." Guy tried to carbon date the artifact but found out it did not date back far enough to be from the same era.


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Saw a documentary once that theorized the Ethiopian Jews were the Lost Tribe who split Judea with the Ark of Covenant (of Raiders of the Lost Ark fame) when the Romans were coming (or something like that). Apparently there is an artifact maintained in a museum someone in Ethiopia or Africa that the documentary maker thought was part of "The Ark." Guy tried to carbon date the artifact but found out it did not date back far enough to be from the same era.

My understanding is that their story dates back to the story of the Queen of Sheba and her travels to the land. The specifics of that story cannot be verified, but the timing is right for it.

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Strangely enough when I was coming up in the 70s and early 80s my Jewish friends and teachers never brought these points up in polite community.

Indeed I remember that wasn't an issue until the African turmoil of the early 80s.

Or maybe I'm misremembering

It was really in the late 80s to the early 90's that the return of the Ethiopian Jews picked up steam. Up until then, the Ethiopian government blocked them from leaving. During Operation Solomon, El Al literally took their 747s off of scheduled flights, removed all the seats, and flew them back and forth for 36 hours. One 747 flight carried over 1,100 people. (still an aviation record)

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Strangely enough when I was coming up in the 70s and early 80s my Jewish friends and teachers never brought these points up in polite community.

Indeed I remember that wasn't an issue until the African turmoil of the early 80s.

Or maybe I'm misremembering

It was really in the late 80s to the early 90's that the return of the Ethiopian Jews picked up steam. Up until then, the Ethiopian government blocked them from leaving. During Operation Solomon, El Al literally took their 747s off of scheduled flights, removed all the seats, and flew them back and forth for 36 hours. One 747 flight carried over 1,100 people. (still an aviation record)


But that doesn't change the fact that it was, and still should be a more inclusive community.

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Strangely enough when I was coming up in the 70s and early 80s my Jewish friends and teachers never brought these points up in polite community.

Indeed I remember that wasn't an issue until the African turmoil of the early 80s.

Or maybe I'm misremembering

It was really in the late 80s to the early 90's that the return of the Ethiopian Jews picked up steam. Up until then, the Ethiopian government blocked them from leaving. During Operation Solomon, El Al literally took their 747s off of scheduled flights, removed all the seats, and flew them back and forth for 36 hours. One 747 flight carried over 1,100 people. (still an aviation record)


But that doesn't change the fact that it was, and still should be a more inclusive community.

it should be and it is improving. I think it was very difficult with the population born in Ethiopia. It's getting much better with their children who were born in Israel. There is still much room for improvement though.

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What a beating Ogie is taking. My goodness.

only in your pathetic eyes. Also, can you tell me what פְּלָ֑שֶׁת is in the Bible? Your link you provided earlier in the thread seems to be from people who can't translate worth a dick.

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am I going to learn something if I read through this or is it a pointless fight? The history is interesting if this is a real discussion rather than flame throwing.

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am I going to learn something if I read through this or is it a pointless fight? The history is interesting if this is a real discussion rather than flame throwing.


You may learn something.

That's not to say it also isn't a pointless fight.

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What's wrong with what he said? The #resistance libs have been clear that if they can win the House, the Democrats can install Hillary as Speaker of the House, then impeach and remove Trump and Pence, thereby giving the Slay Kween her rightful presidency. This is what many liberals want.

to be fair, that plan wouldn't even work as you still need 67 votes in the Senate.


It wouldn't even get 67 votes in the House. That's what the impeachment crowd don't understand. There is no chance 67 Senators vote to impeach Trump.

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What's wrong with what he said? The #resistance libs have been clear that if they can win the House, the Democrats can install Hillary as Speaker of the House, then impeach and remove Trump and Pence, thereby giving the Slay Kween her rightful presidency. This is what many liberals want.

to be fair, that plan wouldn't even work as you still need 67 votes in the Senate.


It wouldn't even get 67 votes in the House. That's what the impeachment crowd don't understand. There is no chance 67 Senators vote to impeach Trump.

In still waiting on all of these reliable sources that talk about the install Hillary plan.


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Be critical of this if you want. Should we let Israels neighbors destroy them over it?



Really, here's the way I see it. People will always say it's not anti-Semitism, yet there are hundreds of bad state actors in the world and they aren't regularly getting threads created complaining about their behavior.

And look, I'm not Jewish. I've been guilty of stereotyping too. There are pretty much two kinds of people in the world. Jews and anti-Semites. But we should be intelligent enough to recognize something for the bullshit it is.

You look at the way Jordan, Lebanon and modern Syria were created, carved out of the Ottoman Empire from League of Nations mandates in the wake of WWI. Yet nobody ever questions their right to exist. Why do you think that is? What is it that is different about Israel? Hmmm. What could it be?



Here is the thread and i believe the quote Nas was referencing right here.

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Saw a documentary once that theorized the Ethiopian Jews were the Lost Tribe who split Judea with the Ark of Covenant (of Raiders of the Lost Ark fame) when the Romans were coming (or something like that). Apparently there is an artifact maintained in a museum someone in Ethiopia or Africa that the documentary maker thought was part of "The Ark." Guy tried to carbon date the artifact but found out it did not date back far enough to be from the same era.

My understanding is that their story dates back to the story of the Queen of Sheba and her travels to the land. The specifics of that story cannot be verified, but the timing is right for it.


Yup,the ark is supposed to be in a little church in Axum.

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You know all you guys keep on painting the Israelies as the bad guys. Well if they are so bad. How man wars have they started? 5 wars are stated as having being conducted. Zero have been started by the Israeli's. They warn before the shell,after they have been shelled themselves. Have they been warned by the so called peaceful Palestinians?
Hell,they had to waste money on Iron Dome to protect themselves
Iron Dome was declared operational and initially deployed on 27 March 2011 near Beersheba.[12] On 7 April 2011, the system successfully intercepted a BM-21 Grad launched from Gaza for the first time.[13] On 10 March 2012, The Jerusalem Post reported that the system shot down 90% of rockets launched from Gaza that would have landed in populated areas.[10] By November 2012, official statements indicated that it had intercepted 400+ rockets.[14][15] By late October 2014, the Iron Dome systems had intercepted over 1,200 rockets.[16] from Wikipedia. So imagine if they did not have that system over 1200
weapons aimed at them would have hit residential non military targets. Je ws can't shoot back because the shots come from schools and mosques. How convenient,yet when they do go in to go after they start with water cannons and rubber bullets. Yet the UN paints them as the bad guys. If the peaceful Palestinians wanted peace there would have been a two state solution in 1948 when it was originally implemented. It was done in other parts of the world but no not here just because the Muslims can't do things peacefully with J E ws. Fuck them they worked with ,allied themselves with the Nazis and after the war harbored and continued to work with them. Fuck them

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You know all you guys keep on painting the Israelies as the bad guys. Well if they are so bad. How man wars have they started? 5 wars are stated as having being conducted. Zero have been started by the Israeli's. They warn before the shell,after they have been shelled themselves. Have they been warned by the so called peaceful Palestinians?
Hell,they had to waste money on Iron Dome to protect themselves
Iron Dome was declared operational and initially deployed on 27 March 2011 near Beersheba.[12] On 7 April 2011, the system successfully intercepted a BM-21 Grad launched from Gaza for the first time.[13] On 10 March 2012, The Jerusalem Post reported that the system shot down 90% of rockets launched from Gaza that would have landed in populated areas.[10] By November 2012, official statements indicated that it had intercepted 400+ rockets.[14][15] By late October 2014, the Iron Dome systems had intercepted over 1,200 rockets.[16] from Wikipedia. So imagine if they did not have that system over 1200
weapons aimed at them would have hit residential non military targets. Je ws can't shoot back because the shots come from schools and mosques. How convenient,yet when they do go in to go after they start with water cannons and rubber bullets. Yet the UN paints them as the bad guys. If the peaceful Palestinians wanted peace there would have been a two state solution in 1948 when it was originally implemented. It was done in other parts of the world but no not here just because the Muslims can't do things peacefully with J E ws. Fuck them they worked with ,allied themselves with the Nazis and after the war harbored and continued to work with them. Fuck them



The Vatican harbored Nazis following WWII also. Are you Anti Pope/Catholic Church too?

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You know all you guys keep on painting the Israelies as the bad guys. Well if they are so bad. How man wars have they started? 5 wars are stated as having being conducted. Zero have been started by the Israeli's. They warn before the shell,after they have been shelled themselves. Have they been warned by the so called peaceful Palestinians?
Hell,they had to waste money on Iron Dome to protect themselves
Iron Dome was declared operational and initially deployed on 27 March 2011 near Beersheba.[12] On 7 April 2011, the system successfully intercepted a BM-21 Grad launched from Gaza for the first time.[13] On 10 March 2012, The Jerusalem Post reported that the system shot down 90% of rockets launched from Gaza that would have landed in populated areas.[10] By November 2012, official statements indicated that it had intercepted 400+ rockets.[14][15] By late October 2014, the Iron Dome systems had intercepted over 1,200 rockets.[16] from Wikipedia. So imagine if they did not have that system over 1200
weapons aimed at them would have hit residential non military targets. Je ws can't shoot back because the shots come from schools and mosques. How convenient,yet when they do go in to go after they start with water cannons and rubber bullets. Yet the UN paints them as the bad guys. If the peaceful Palestinians wanted peace there would have been a two state solution in 1948 when it was originally implemented. It was done in other parts of the world but no not here just because the Muslims can't do things peacefully with J E ws. Fuck them they worked with ,allied themselves with the Nazis and after the war harbored and continued to work with them. Fuck them



The Vatican harbored Nazis following WWII also. Are you Anti Pope/Catholic Church too?

they need to pay for there mis deeds as well. The Italians,paid for siding with the Nazis. Lest we forget the Iraqs' revoted and went over to the Germans in 1942

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Also,individuals in the Catholic Church saved JE ws and helped them escape. Where is the Muslim Schindler? You will not find one. When Rommel was approaching Cario they where dancing in the streets just like when the Towers went down.
You want to go rounds on this lets go.

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Also,individuals in the Catholic Church saved JE ws and helped them escape. Where is the Muslim Schindler? You will not find one.
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You sure?


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_ ... _Holocaust

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dozen compared to 2000 yeah okay. Good comparison. They are heros for putting their life on the line but nothing in the way that numerous others did, hell there where Japanese diplomats,allies of the Germans, who saved thousands.

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Ireland was sympathetic to the Nazis as well

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