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Yup I definitely called this.
It's the medias job to report on things like this. They do it all the time in other killings. This is no different.

It still doesn't mean he deserved this.

It's a character hit on a dead cop.
That's the point though. They show the positive and negative past of people when this happens. When other shootings happen how often do we hear about "weed in the system", trouble at school, or facebook pictures of "gang activity"?

It's only fair in this case we get the same.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Yup I definitely called this.
It's the medias job to report on things like this. They do it all the time in other killings. This is no different.

It still doesn't mean he deserved this.

It's a character hit on a dead cop.
That's the point though. They show the positive and negative past of people when this happens. When other shootings happen how often do we hear about "weed in the system", trouble at school, or facebook pictures of "gang activity"?

It's only fair in this case we get the same.


That's usually done to paint a picture of the person in a negative light and ultimately justify the shooting. It's bullshit and so is this. His stupidity in 2003 had nothing to do with him being murdered 15 years later.

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Yup I definitely called this.
It's the medias job to report on things like this. They do it all the time in other killings. This is no different.

It still doesn't mean he deserved this.

It's a character hit on a dead cop.
That's the point though. They show the positive and negative past of people when this happens. When other shootings happen how often do we hear about "weed in the system", trouble at school, or facebook pictures of "gang activity"?

It's only fair in this case we get the same.

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It's also pretty revelatory that you think a police officer being dedicated to catching criminals is a bad thing.


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
America wrote:
Yup I definitely called this.
It's the medias job to report on things like this. They do it all the time in other killings. This is no different.

It still doesn't mean he deserved this.


Really do they do this all the time in other killings?

In The Laquan McDonald killing, there was virtually no reporting of why he was involved with Police that night or his previous background.
In the Brown incident,there was huge down play and disconnect of what happened that day both before and during the incident as well as Browns previous history of criminality.
It is only when the left leaning media can use shit like this to go after organizations and individuals it has disdain for do you see how it does its "balanced" and "fair" reporting"
Where is the reports and outrage in the media for the way the handling of the case of the white disabled teen is being handled? In exchange for pleading guilty to committing a hate crime, aggravated battery and intimidation, prosecutors dropped a kidnapping charge and others.

The judge ordered Covington to not use social media for four years. She also must perform 200 hours of community service.
This is the people we entrust to protect us?

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That's usually done to paint a picture of the person in a negative light and ultimately justify the shooting. It's bullshit and so is this. His stupidity in 2003 had nothing to do with him being murdered 15 years later.
I agree. I'm just saying it wasn't exactly a shock that these stories come out too afterwards. It's just how the world works these days. At least in this case no one is going to think he deserved it because of it.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
America wrote:
Yup I definitely called this.
It's the medias job to report on things like this. They do it all the time in other killings. This is no different.

It still doesn't mean he deserved this.


Really do they do this all the time in other killings?

In The Laquan McDonald killing, there was virtually no reporting of why he was involved with Police that night or his previous background.
In the Brown incident,there was huge down play and disconnect of what happened that day both before and during the incident as well as Browns previous history of criminality.
It is only when the left leaning media can use shit like this to go after organizations and individuals it has disdain for do you see how it does its "balanced" and "fair" reporting"
Where is the reports and outrage in the media for the way the handling of the case of the white disabled teen is being handled? In exchange for pleading guilty to committing a hate crime, aggravated battery and intimidation, prosecutors dropped a kidnapping charge and others.

The judge ordered Covington to not use social media for four years. She also must perform 200 hours of community service.
This is the people we entrust to protect us?
We know the life history of Laquan McDonald and Michael Brown.

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That's usually done to paint a picture of the person in a negative light and ultimately justify the shooting. It's bullshit and so is this. His stupidity in 2003 had nothing to do with him being murdered 15 years later.
I agree. I'm just saying it wasn't exactly a shock that these stories come out too afterwards. It's just how the world works these days. At least in this case no one is going to think he deserved it because of it.


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It's also pretty revelatory that you think a police officer being dedicated to catching criminals is a bad thing.

Not sure if he did a good job on the "catching" part.


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
America wrote:
Yup I definitely called this.
It's the medias job to report on things like this. They do it all the time in other killings. This is no different.

It still doesn't mean he deserved this.


Really do they do this all the time in other killings?

In The Laquan McDonald killing, there was virtually no reporting of why he was involved with Police that night or his previous background.
In the Brown incident,there was huge down play and disconnect of what happened that day both before and during the incident as well as Browns previous history of criminality.
It is only when the left leaning media can use shit like this to go after organizations and individuals it has disdain for do you see how it does its "balanced" and "fair" reporting"
Where is the reports and outrage in the media for the way the handling of the case of the white disabled teen is being handled? In exchange for pleading guilty to committing a hate crime, aggravated battery and intimidation, prosecutors dropped a kidnapping charge and others.

The judge ordered Covington to not use social media for four years. She also must perform 200 hours of community service.
This is the people we entrust to protect us?
We know the life history of Laquan McDonald and Michael Brown.

Yes they are both sweet angels ripped from the world by evil racist police.


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It's also pretty revelatory that you think a police officer being dedicated to catching criminals is a bad thing.

Not sure if he did a good job on the "catching" part.

I get the feeling a district commander who responds to calls like the one at the Thompson Center probably caught a fair number of criminals in his life. Takes a kind of person to make it to that kind of position and still do the grunt work.


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It doesn't make him look bad. That's how fucked up this city is, that going after criminals is a bad thing.

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It doesn't make him look bad. That's how fucked up this city is, that going after criminals is a bad thing.

I agree completely but that article definitely paints him as a buffoon and does so very intentionally. A hit like that never would've been published in the Trib against Laquan McDonald, and if it we're it would be framed as a "failure of society" to adequately support him.


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It's also pretty revelatory that you think a police officer being dedicated to catching criminals is a bad thing.

Not sure if he did a good job on the "catching" part.


Based on the two documented arrest(catching bad guys) attempts:I believe he was 0 for 2 with an assist I guess. Bad part - 2 kia.


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A guy interviewed on WGN immediately after the shooting claimed an off duty officer shot him.

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Did they show a new mugshot of the suspect? I'll put my panther hat on and say in the one released he would have been showing a lot more injuries if he killied a cop.


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Did they show a new mugshot of the suspect? I'll put my panther hat on and say in the one released he would have been showing a lot more injuries if he killied a cop.


No injuries. That's definitely surprising.

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A guy interviewed on WGN immediately after the shooting claimed an off duty officer shot him.


a cop is going to shoot a well dressed white guy six times in the face while this well dressed white guy is scuffling with a black guy? c'mon now.

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A guy interviewed on WGN immediately after the shooting claimed an off duty officer shot him.


a cop is going to shoot a well dressed white guy six times in the face while this well dressed white guy is scuffling with a black guy? c'mon now.


I'm not suggesting that it was true but they interviewed the guy for 4 minutes and at some point he mixed in a skit from a Twister album.

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He definitely won't have to do any catching duties in jail
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A guy interviewed on WGN immediately after the shooting claimed an off duty officer shot him.


a cop is going to shoot a well dressed white guy six times in the face while this well dressed white guy is scuffling with a black guy? c'mon now.


I'm not suggesting that it was true but they interviewed the guy for 4 minutes and at some point he mixed in a skit from a Twister album.


Put you will still have people like Panther run with it.

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A guy interviewed on WGN immediately after the shooting claimed an off duty officer shot him.


a cop is going to shoot a well dressed white guy six times in the face while this well dressed white guy is scuffling with a black guy? c'mon now.


I'm not suggesting that it was true but they interviewed the guy for 4 minutes and at some point he mixed in a skit from a Twister album.


Put you will still have people like Panther run with it.


Of course. They're going to think that no matter what.

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Did they show a new mugshot of the suspect? I'll put my panther hat on and say in the one released he would have been showing a lot more injuries if he killied a cop.


No injuries. That's definitely surprising.


He will get his lumps at 26th on his way to and from court

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One of my guys called me about dude yesterday. Asked me did I remember when we were in high school and he'd gotten into with him inside of Avalon's gym and I told him yep. It was some basketball shit and it didn't amount to fisticuffs or anything but they were in each other's face. We were actually in there with our other guy that played with him at Dunbar and i knew it put him in a bad spot. Low End trumped everything back then so it wasn't a question as to how he was going to roll.


Now its 2018 and this motherfucker is locked up for murdering a cop. You never know the twists and turns that Life holds for a person.

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Did they show a new mugshot of the suspect? I'll put my panther hat on and say in the one released he would have been showing a lot more injuries if he killied a cop.


No injuries. That's definitely surprising.

That's because the police know the media is desperate to make the shooter out to be the victim in all this. The courts are also on the lookout for any way to keep him on the streets.


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One of my guys called me about dude yesterday. Asked me did I remember when we were in high school and he'd gotten into with him inside of Avalon's gym and I told him yep. It was some basketball shit and it didn't amount to fisticuffs or anything but they were in each other's face. We were actually in there with our other guy that played with him at Dunbar and i knew it put him in a bad spot. Low End trumped everything back then so it wasn't a question as to how he was going to roll.


Now its 2018 and this motherfucker is locked up for murdering a cop. You never know the twists and turns that Life holds for a person.


I spent nearly everyday of my life as a kid at Avalon. That guy's mugshot looked familiar and then Facebook told me we had a few friends in common. You're older than me by at least a decade so if you played outside at Avalon during the summer you're probably one of those guys who would take the court from my friends and I. Then we would bust bottles on the court and run so you all couldn't play.

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One of my guys called me about dude yesterday. Asked me did I remember when we were in high school and he'd gotten into with him inside of Avalon's gym and I told him yep. It was some basketball shit and it didn't amount to fisticuffs or anything but they were in each other's face. We were actually in there with our other guy that played with him at Dunbar and i knew it put him in a bad spot. Low End trumped everything back then so it wasn't a question as to how he was going to roll.


Now its 2018 and this motherfucker is locked up for murdering a cop. You never know the twists and turns that Life holds for a person.


I spent nearly everyday of my life as a kid at Avalon. That guy's mugshot looked familiar and then Facebook told me we had a few friends in common. You're older than me by at least a decade so if you played outside at Avalon during the summer you're probably one of those guys who would take the court from my friends and I. Then we would bust bottles on the court and run so you all couldn't play.



It was never one of my spots but I did play inside of Avalon a few times in high school. Never recall playing outside though. That was a legendary spot for basketball back in the 80's and 90's. They used to have a solid run on Sundays when we were in high school. One day our guy got his old man's car and we decided to ride out there.


After I graduated from college we'd also play in there on Sunday mornings too. This would have been around 99 or 2000. Guys like Whiteside would be in there then. Spider also would fall through. That run was good for guys in there mid 20's and who could still move around a little.

When my guy from high school hit me about that yesterday it took me back a little. Shomarri was in there and it was about to go up. I don't know if he was from out that way but we knew him from Dunbar. The whole Dunbar/Phillips dynamic didn't help matters either lol.

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