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Instead, I'll say this: Ogie, speaking on the behalf of gun owners, threatened to kill everyone if their AR15s were confiscated.

This is still blatantly untrue. Please point out the post where he says this if you disagree.

You’re digging yourself deeper here man. Just say you misspoke and move on.

Ogie can defend himself if he didn't mean that gun owners would shoot authorities attempting to confiscate illegal guns and that if they died that terrorist attacks would follow. Seems pretty straight forward with my two quotes.

I’ve said the same thing. I think that would very likely be true if total confiscation happened. Am I threatening to kill everyone with this post?

Whatever the non-condescending way to say be smarter is, consider it said.

I don't know if you are. You haven't said what you would do.

In speaking for gun owners, if you are promising they would shoot those attempting to confiscate AR15s and then if any non-officer died that terrorist attacks on the population would then follow then yes that is a threat to kill everyone.

Now, maybe you and Ogie would hand over an AR15 without violence. That's good.

Now once again, where did Ogie “promise” this would happen?

Saying you think _____ will happen does not mean you are threatening to do ______. This shouldn’t need to be spelled out like this.

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FavreFan wrote:
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Instead, I'll say this: Ogie, speaking on the behalf of gun owners, threatened to kill everyone if their AR15s were confiscated.

This is still blatantly untrue. Please point out the post where he says this if you disagree.

You’re digging yourself deeper here man. Just say you misspoke and move on.

Ogie can defend himself if he didn't mean that gun owners would shoot authorities attempting to confiscate illegal guns and that if they died that terrorist attacks would follow. Seems pretty straight forward with my two quotes.

I’ve said the same thing. I think that would very likely be true if total confiscation happened. Am I threatening to kill everyone with this post?

Whatever the non-condescending way to say be smarter is, consider it said.

I don't know if you are. You haven't said what you would do.

In speaking for gun owners, if you are promising they would shoot those attempting to confiscate AR15s and then if any non-officer died that terrorist attacks on the population would then follow then yes that is a threat to kill everyone.

Now, maybe you and Ogie would hand over an AR15 without violence. That's good.

Now once again, where did Ogie “promise” this would happen?

Saying you think _____ will happen does not mean you are threatening to do ______. This shouldn’t need to be spelled out like this.


Parse what "promise" means if you want.
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Let's just be honest here, no LEO in this country will enforce any gun confiscation as at the end of the day they are really cowards who prefer to play the role of road pirate. They know if they try to confiscate weapons from law abiding citizens that they will ultimately find that they will be given the ammo first, and then only just the tip.

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What's the end game here brick?
Is this supposed to be you being funny or are you trying to slander this guy?

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What's the end game here brick?
Is this supposed to be you being funny or are you trying to slander this guy?

Nothing I've said is slander or libel.

FF keeps trying to say I meant he personally would but I said no such thing.

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Brick is spot on. Ogie also defended child rape(David Koresh)


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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What's the end game here brick?
Is this supposed to be you being funny or are you trying to slander this guy?

Nothing I've said is slander or libel.

FF keeps trying to say I meant he personally would but I said no such thing.

I’ve been pretty clear and consistent. Ogie didn’t threaten anyone. Multiple times you accused him of threatening to kill people when he never did. I think that warrants an apology. You don’t. I think we can move on.

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What's the end game here brick?
Is this supposed to be you being funny or are you trying to slander this guy?


It’s a common brick “debate” tactic to ascribe I’ll feelings or allege poor motives to other posters who disagree with him. Very SAD but far from uncommon.

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What's the end game here brick?
Is this supposed to be you being funny or are you trying to slander this guy?


It’s a common brick “debate” tactic to ascribe I’ll feelings or allege poor motives to other posters who disagree with him. Very SAD but far from uncommon.


Yeah, he should keep it classy and just inquire about whether those posters have achieved all their career goals. That's what men do.


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FF is wrong.

Don’t be like that. Us Packer fans need to stick together.

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FavreFan wrote:
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What's the end game here brick?
Is this supposed to be you being funny or are you trying to slander this guy?

Nothing I've said is slander or libel.

FF keeps trying to say I meant he personally would but I said no such thing.

I’ve been pretty clear and consistent. Ogie didn’t threaten anyone. Multiple times you accused him of threatening to kill people when he never did. I think that warrants an apology. You don’t. I think we can move on.

You've been consistently wrong. You tried to twist my words that way. I explained it clearly.

I never said that Ogie would personally kill anyone who tried to take his guns. I'm not apologizing for saying something I never said.

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FF is wrong.

Don’t be like that. Us Packer fans need to stick together.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

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What's the end game here brick?
Is this supposed to be you being funny or are you trying to slander this guy?


It’s a common brick “debate” tactic to ascribe I’ll feelings or allege poor motives to other posters who disagree with him. Very SAD but far from uncommon.

Does your Chiropractor have a cure? Deep breathing? Essential oils? Jesus?

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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What's the end game here brick?
Is this supposed to be you being funny or are you trying to slander this guy?

Nothing I've said is slander or libel.

FF keeps trying to say I meant he personally would but I said no such thing.

I’ve been pretty clear and consistent. Ogie didn’t threaten anyone. Multiple times you accused him of threatening to kill people when he never did. I think that warrants an apology. You don’t. I think we can move on.

You've been consistently wrong. You tried to twist my words that way. I explained it clearly.

I never said that Ogie would personally kill anyone who tried to take his guns. I'm not apologizing for saying something I never said.

I never twisted your words. They speak for themselves.

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Gun nuts threatening to kill everyone if they don't get their way is a great reason to want tighter gun control.

Who threatened to kill everyone?

Ogie did if people tried to take away AR-15s.

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Explained this already.
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I know where this goes. You pretend I meant him personally when I clearly was referring to gun owners and his statements. We then have four posts going back and forth about what I actually meant and you stick to whatever interpretation is best for you.

Instead, I'll say this: Ogie, speaking on the behalf of gun owners, threatened to kill everyone if their AR15s were confiscated.

Either accept that or go on thinking I meant Ogie was personally going to kill everyone. :lol:

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I understand you didn’t mean what you said. That’s why I think an apology isn’t out of the question.

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You really are a pinhead, FavreFan. Typical apology control advocate. Boilermaker Rick is a great American and a patriot. You can have his apology when you pry it from his cold dead lips.

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I understand you didn’t mean what you said. That’s why I think an apology isn’t out of the question.

Ok. You now acknowledge you know what I meant. That's good enough for me.

I never meant Ogie would kill anyone. I was referring to him speaking on behalf of gun owners who would if their now illegal AR15 were to be taken. I have no idea if he would hand it over or not.

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You know I'm not much for censorship but this thread is prime to be locked.
All that can be contributed to it has been and this is far off topic and potentially damaging to the site and some individual posters given the current climate of things being said on social media.

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Sucks to see the Ammo-Sexuals gang up on a board member like this. And they wonder why people don't trust them with weapons.


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Sucks to see the Ammo-Sexuals gang up on a board member like this. And they wonder why people don't trust them with weapons.


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Sucks to see the Ammo-Sexuals gang up on a board member like this. And they wonder why people don't trust them with weapons.


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You know I'm not much for censorship but this thread is prime to be locked.
All that can be contributed to it has been and this is far off topic and potentially damaging to the site and some individual posters given the current climate of things being said on social media.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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What's the end game here brick?
Is this supposed to be you being funny or are you trying to slander this guy?

Nothing I've said is slander or libel.

FF keeps trying to say I meant he personally would but I said no such thing.

I’ve been pretty clear and consistent. Ogie didn’t threaten anyone. Multiple times you accused him of threatening to kill people when he never did. I think that warrants an apology. You don’t. I think we can move on.

You've been consistently wrong. You tried to twist my words that way. I explained it clearly.

I never said that Ogie would personally kill anyone who tried to take his guns. I'm not apologizing for saying something I never said.

But you did.


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You know I'm not much for censorship but this thread is prime to be locked.
All that can be contributed to it has been and this is far off topic and potentially damaging to the site and some individual posters given the current climate of things being said on social media.

I hate censorship but please lock a thread with opinions that vary from mine

No. Im Not saying to delete anything bob. Thats censorship.
But before someone has actionable statements made in public maybe we should stop posting.
Brick is walking a thin line here. People are looking around the internet for statements that echo what brick said this other person said (which he did not) and it looks to me like the runners of the board could have some degree of exposure on this

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Darkside wrote:
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You know I'm not much for censorship but this thread is prime to be locked.
All that can be contributed to it has been and this is far off topic and potentially damaging to the site and some individual posters given the current climate of things being said on social media.

I hate censorship but please lock a thread with opinions that vary from mine

No. Im Not saying to delete anything bob. Thats censorship.
But before someone has actionable statements made in public maybe we should stop posting.
Brick is walking a thin line here. People are looking around the internet for statements that echo what brick said this other person said (which he did not) and it looks to me like the runners of the board could have some degree of exposure on this

Don't be so dramatic. I'll edit my initial post to say he was talking about gun owners and not himself.

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