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Rush and Trump pushing this. Really bad idea.

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Consider the sources.

And that is a stunningly stupid idea pushed by the worst among us.

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Rush and Trump pushing this. Really bad idea.


One of the dumbest ideas ever. Police aren't great at shooting and we expect dozens of teachers to handle the pressure and be great shots. Can you imagine what happens when a teacher accidentally shoots a student? When some angry wild beast of a football player overpowers some small teacher and takes their weapon? When the police rush in and mistake an armed teacher as the active shooter?

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I do not think classroom teachers should be armed.

But a few people throughout campus armed and trained would be helpful.

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Nas wrote:
conns7901 wrote:
Rush and Trump pushing this. Really bad idea.


One of the dumbest ideas ever. Police aren't great at shooting and we expect dozens of teachers to handle the pressure and be great shots. Can you imagine what happens when a teacher accidentally shoots a student? When some angry wild beast of a football player overpowers some small teacher ? When the police rush in and mistake an armed teacher as the active shooter?


It's a colossally dumb idea, but I believe the thinking is that armed teachers will be a deterrent, not that they will actually get in gun battles. Again, very dumb because these shooters aren't rational and they usually know they're going to die. This last guy who lived was a rarity.

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Consider the sources.

And that is a stunningly stupid idea pushed by the worst among us.


"Anyone who says this is stupid who is the worst of our society" will get you 4 more years of Trump. Enjoy!


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I do not think classroom teachers should be armed.

But a few people throughout campus armed and trained would be helpful.


But even here there were armed school cops on the campus on their daily routine.

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Ach du lieber! I'm getting myself a luger tomorrow! I think this is a fabulous idea.


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Nas wrote:
conns7901 wrote:
Rush and Trump pushing this. Really bad idea.


One of the dumbest ideas ever. Police aren't great at shooting and we expect dozens of teachers to handle the pressure and be great shots. Can you imagine what happens when a teacher accidentally shoots a student? When some angry wild beast of a football player overpowers some small teacher ? When the police rush in and mistake an armed teacher as the active shooter?


It's a colossally dumb idea, but I believe the thinking is that armed teachers will be a deterrent, not that they will actually get in gun battles. Again, very dumb because these shooters aren't rational and they usually know they're going to die. This last guy who lived was a rarity.


I think more kids would get shot through accidents, carelessness or stolen guns in school very year if this actually happened.

Maybe its just the area I live, but most high schools around here have an on duty Police Officer in the building everyday.

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Nas wrote:
conns7901 wrote:
Rush and Trump pushing this. Really bad idea.


One of the dumbest ideas ever. Police aren't great at shooting and we expect dozens of teachers to handle the pressure and be great shots. Can you imagine what happens when a teacher accidentally shoots a student? When some angry wild beast of a football player overpowers some small teacher ? When the police rush in and mistake an armed teacher as the active shooter?


It's a colossally dumb idea, but I believe the thinking is that armed teachers will be a deterrent, not that they will actually get in gun battles. Again, very dumb because these shooters aren't rational and they usually know they're going to die. This last guy who lived was a rarity.


They had a armed guy with body armor. A handgun probably isn't a match for an AR15. Like you've pointed out these kids expect to die. This kid could have gotten away if he actually had a plan.

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Regular Reader wrote:
RFDC wrote:
I do not think classroom teachers should be armed.

But a few people throughout campus armed and trained would be helpful.


But even here there were armed school cops on the campus on their daily routine.


We have a school officer who is armed, but he has like 6 buildings he covers. No way he can do that very well.

I would be in favor of a couple administrators in each building being armed so that there are always a couple people in each building ready.

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Consider the sources.

And that is a stunningly stupid idea pushed by the worst among us.


"Anyone who says this is stupid who is the worst of our society" will get you 4 more years of Trump. Enjoy!


And the people who revel in that thought are just what Hillary called them.

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RFDC wrote:
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RFDC wrote:
I do not think classroom teachers should be armed.

But a few people throughout campus armed and trained would be helpful.


But even here there were armed school cops on the campus on their daily routine.


We have a school officer who is armed, but he has like 6 buildings he covers. No way he can do that very well.

I would be in favor of a couple administrators in each building being armed so that there are always a couple people in each building ready.


You have a lot more faith in administrators than I do. :shock:

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RFDC wrote:
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RFDC wrote:
I do not think classroom teachers should be armed.

But a few people throughout campus armed and trained would be helpful.


But even here there were armed school cops on the campus on their daily routine.


We have a school officer who is armed, but he has like 6 buildings he covers. No way he can do that very well.

I would be in favor of a couple administrators in each building being armed so that there are always a couple people in each building ready.


It makes more sense to simply hire more cops, but in public education it's a zero sum game, currently being won by people who want to starve it out.

Including things almost universally accepted as effective, like early childhood education.

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Regular Reader wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
Consider the sources.

And that is a stunningly stupid idea pushed by the worst among us.


"Anyone who says this is stupid who is the worst of our society" will get you 4 more years of Trump. Enjoy!


And the people who revel in that thought are just what Hillary called them.


"People who are different from me are less than me!"

That's amusing to hear from you.


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conns7901 wrote:
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RFDC wrote:
I do not think classroom teachers should be armed.

But a few people throughout campus armed and trained would be helpful.


But even here there were armed school cops on the campus on their daily routine.


We have a school officer who is armed, but he has like 6 buildings he covers. No way he can do that very well.

I would be in favor of a couple administrators in each building being armed so that there are always a couple people in each building ready.


You have a lot more faith in administrators than I do. :shock:

:lol: Def a few administrators I would not want armed.

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Regular Reader wrote:
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RFDC wrote:
I do not think classroom teachers should be armed.

But a few people throughout campus armed and trained would be helpful.


But even here there were armed school cops on the campus on their daily routine.


We have a school officer who is armed, but he has like 6 buildings he covers. No way he can do that very well.

I would be in favor of a couple administrators in each building being armed so that there are always a couple people in each building ready.


It makes more sense to simply hire more cops, but in public education it's a zero sum game, currently being won by people who want to starve it out.

Including things almost universally accepted as effective, like early childhood education.


i would be in favor of hiring more cops too. But there is not going to be funding for that any time soon.

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They had a armed guy with body armor. A handgun probably isn't a match for an AR15. Like you've pointed out these kids expect to die. This kid could have gotten away if he actually had a plan.

handguns kill more Americans in a day than AR-15's do all year you ignorant fucking genius.


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If we are arming these people in the school, are they granted the police standard of feeling threatened as justification for using lethal force?


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The only places in the USA not protected with armed guards are schools. Convenience stores have better security.


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America wrote:
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They had a armed guy with body armor. A handgun probably isn't a match for an AR15. Like you've pointed out these kids expect to die. This kid could have gotten away if he actually had a plan.

handguns kill more Americans in a day than AR-15's do all year you ignorant fucking genius.


Handguns are not used in mass school shootings.

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They had a armed guy with body armor. A handgun probably isn't a match for an AR15. Like you've pointed out these kids expect to die. This kid could have gotten away if he actually had a plan.

handguns kill more Americans in a day than AR-15's do all year you ignorant fucking genius.



English. Can you read it?

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America wrote:
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They had a armed guy with body armor. A handgun probably isn't a match for an AR15. Like you've pointed out these kids expect to die. This kid could have gotten away if he actually had a plan.

handguns kill more Americans in a day than AR-15's do all year you ignorant fucking genius.


Croissant America I'm aware of this. Kids aren't shooting up schools with handguns. What gay guy are you crushing on today? I bet you're the catcher.

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If we are arming these people in the school, are they granted the police standard of feeling threatened as justification for using lethal force?

If they are going to be armed they have to be able to fire if needed. Obviously it has to be a real and credible threat.

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If we are arming these people in the school, are they granted the police standard of feeling threatened as justification for using lethal force?

If they are going to be armed they have to be able to fire if needed. Obviously it has to be a real and credible threat.


"The football player lunged at me and I feared for my life."

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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Consider the sources.

And that is a stunningly stupid idea pushed by the worst among us.


"Anyone who says this is stupid who is the worst of our society" will get you 4 more years of Trump. Enjoy!


And the people who revel in that thought are just what Hillary called them.


"People who are different from me are less than me!"

That's amusing to hear from you.



That isn't what was meant by the comment.

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If we are arming these people in the school, are they granted the police standard of feeling threatened as justification for using lethal force?

If they are going to be armed they have to be able to fire if needed. Obviously it has to be a real and credible threat.


"The football player lunged at me and I feared for my life."

Stop. Not even close to what we are talking about.

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Nas wrote:
They had a armed guy with body armor. A handgun probably isn't a match for an AR15. Like you've pointed out these kids expect to die. This kid could have gotten away if he actually had a plan.

handguns kill more Americans in a day than AR-15's do all year you ignorant fucking genius.


Croissant America I'm aware of this. Kids aren't shooting up schools with handguns. What gay guy are you crushing on today? I bet you're the catcher.

Kids have shot up schools with handguns, and more effectively than with an AR-15 I might add. See Virginia Tech, which still is the deadliest school shooting.

Banning the AR-15 does nothing to stop such shootings, which is why I'm very strongly against the banning of the AR-15.

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RFDC wrote:
Nas wrote:
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If we are arming these people in the school, are they granted the police standard of feeling threatened as justification for using lethal force?

If they are going to be armed they have to be able to fire if needed. Obviously it has to be a real and credible threat.


"The football player lunged at me and I feared for my life."

Stop. Not even close to what we are talking about.


I know. Just pointing out another issue with giving all teachers guns.

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