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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Poll: Are you a liberal? |
Vote please. |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poll: Are you a liberal? |
No |
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| Author: | tommy [ Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:18 am ] |
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Former. Still half. |
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| Author: | sjboyd0137 [ Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poll: Are you a liberal? |
Depends on the issue... |
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| Author: | Baby McNown [ Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:20 am ] |
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| Author: | T-Bone [ Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poll: Are you a liberal? |
Not really. I consider myself republican but tend to lean left on some social issues. |
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| Author: | Drunk Squirrel [ Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poll: Are you a liberal? |
Depends on my surroundings. Around here MANY consider me to be liberal based on my social views But I don’t think many of the truly liberal people I know would give me that label. |
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| Author: | leashyourkids [ Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poll: Are you a liberal? |
Hard question to answer. Classic Liberalism is essentially called Libertarianism today. Modern Liberalism has been twisted by some, but not all, into a weird ideology that’s not really recognizable. I’m not a modern Liberal by any stretch. I consider myself to be close to a Classic Liberal, but not a dogmatic Libertarian. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poll: Are you a liberal? |
Overall I am probably left of center, but I don't think it's as simple as YES OR NO. It really depends on the issue(s). |
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| Author: | SuperMario [ Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poll: Are you a liberal? |
Mostly conservative with some liberal/libertarian views on some issues - mostly social issues. |
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| Author: | tommy [ Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poll: Are you a liberal? |
Drunk Squirrel wrote: Depends on my surroundings. Around here MANY consider me to be liberal based on my social views But I don’t think many of the truly liberal people I know would give me that label. Drunk Squirrel is EASILY the biggest liberal on this board. He's in favor of giving respirations to Polish-Americans. He also has "Ally" tattooed on his forearm and he supports education. You have been warned! |
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| Author: | denisdman [ Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poll: Are you a liberal? |
tommy wrote: Drunk Squirrel wrote: Depends on my surroundings. Around here MANY consider me to be liberal based on my social views But I don’t think many of the truly liberal people I know would give me that label. Drunk Squirrel is EASILY the biggest liberal on this board. He's in favor of giving respirations to Polish-Americans. He also has "Ally" tattooed on his forearm and he supports education. You have been warned! Are they having breathing problems? I know the Russians are doing work in the UK, but have they attacked Poles in Chi town? |
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| Author: | Drunk Squirrel [ Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poll: Are you a liberal? |
tommy wrote: Drunk Squirrel wrote: Depends on my surroundings. Around here MANY consider me to be liberal based on my social views But I don’t think many of the truly liberal people I know would give me that label. Drunk Squirrel is EASILY the biggest liberal on this board. He's in favor of giving respirations to Polish-Americans. He also has "Ally" tattooed on his forearm and he supports education. You have been warned! It’s actually Kate on one forearm and Allie on the other. And the Poles should be allowed to breath. |
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| Author: | tommy [ Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poll: Are you a liberal? |
denisdman wrote: tommy wrote: Drunk Squirrel wrote: Depends on my surroundings. Around here MANY consider me to be liberal based on my social views But I don’t think many of the truly liberal people I know would give me that label. Drunk Squirrel is EASILY the biggest liberal on this board. He's in favor of giving respirations to Polish-Americans. He also has "Ally" tattooed on his forearm and he supports education. You have been warned! Are they having breathing problems? I know the Russians are doing work in the UK, but have they attacked Poles in Chi town?  Honestly, with these liberals, who can tell? All I hear from them are bar-bar noises.
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| Author: | tommy [ Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poll: Are you a liberal? |
Drunk Squirrel wrote: tommy wrote: Drunk Squirrel wrote: Depends on my surroundings. Around here MANY consider me to be liberal based on my social views But I don’t think many of the truly liberal people I know would give me that label. Drunk Squirrel is EASILY the biggest liberal on this board. He's in favor of giving respirations to Polish-Americans. He also has "Ally" tattooed on his forearm and he supports education. You have been warned! It’s actually Kate on one forearm and Allie on the other. And the Poles should be allowed to breath. Kate was hot, too.
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| Author: | Crystal Lake Hoffy [ Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poll: Are you a liberal? |
I am a left-wing extremist at heart. |
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| Author: | sjboyd0137 [ Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poll: Are you a liberal? |
Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote: I am a left-wing extremist at heart. Anarchy FTW |
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| Author: | Baby McNown [ Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poll: Are you a liberal? |
Frank Coztansa wrote: YES OR NO. 
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| Author: | Brick [ Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poll: Are you a liberal? |
On everything but economics, which is the only smart answer. |
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| Author: | denisdman [ Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poll: Are you a liberal? |
Boilermaker Rick wrote: On everything but economics, which is the only smart answer. And the somewhat funny thing is that the term Liberal, when classically applied to economics refers to free and open markets. "Economic liberalism, the ideological belief in organizing the economy on individualist lines, such that the greatest possible number of economic decisions are made by private individuals and not by collective institutions" |
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| Author: | JORR [ Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poll: Are you a liberal? |
I think it's a word that has lost all meaning. I consider identity politics very conservative at the core and ultimately anti-worker. They are a tool of the professional class. |
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| Author: | leashyourkids [ Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poll: Are you a liberal? |
denisdman wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: On everything but economics, which is the only smart answer. And the somewhat funny thing is that the term Liberal, when classically applied to economics refers to free and open markets. Yup. Capitalism was once considered to be a very Liberal ideology. That's why these classifications are not very accurate and highly generalized. |
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| Author: | denisdman [ Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poll: Are you a liberal? |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: I think it's a word that has lost all meaning. I consider identity politics very conservative at the core and ultimately anti-worker. They are a tool of the professional class. The British still use it appropriately. Not only do they have a formal party with that name, they still use the classic definition for economics. Of course in the U.S. the Republicans turned it into a dirty word. Much the way my use of Community to describe Corbyn yesterday caused a minor rebuke from Zeph because Republicans (well and the Soviet/China/Cuba variety) turned that into a very dirty word. But both the classic use of Liberal and Communism have economic meanings that intelligent people can discuss rationally. |
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| Author: | tommy [ Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poll: Are you a liberal? |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: I think it's a word that has lost all meaning. I consider identity politics very conservative at the core and ultimately anti-worker. They are a tool of the professional class. there are many conservative (and downright puritanical) impulses in today's liberalism. they certainly do seem to have had the same effect on the workforce and pointing this out can lead to some serious blowback--you're labelled as anti-_________________ (fill in the blank). i could be wrong, but it seems to be true. |
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| Author: | Curious Hair [ Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poll: Are you a liberal? |
I'm a social democrat but not a liberal. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poll: Are you a liberal? |
I would have considered myself a liberal 10-15 years ago. Now I'm a conservative. But my views have hardly changed. |
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| Author: | denisdman [ Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poll: Are you a liberal? |
Curious Hair wrote: I'm a social democrat but not a liberal. Liberal really is warped term in our society. I doubt most Americans would see any distinction between social democrat and liberal. |
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| Author: | Tall Midget [ Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poll: Are you a liberal? |
I continue to define myself as a Lacanian (via Kojeve and Hegel) Marxist with significant Kropotkinian Anarchist and Negrian tendencies. |
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| Author: | Ogie Oglethorpe [ Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poll: Are you a liberal? |
Do classical liberals count? |
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| Author: | sjboyd0137 [ Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Poll: Are you a liberal? |
Tall Midget wrote: I continue to define myself as a Lacanian (via Kojeve and Hegel) Marxist with significant Kropotkinian Anarchist and Negrian tendencies. Explains the chainsaw incident... |
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