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Ya know what nobody is talking about? How this episode was a lot like Breaking Bad



Mike got the Walter White plan ahead superpowers.


Good episode. Even Saul's limited role was good. He was a little heart broken that Mike knew he was a con man.


He isn't a con man.

Saul is afraid to be thought of as a lawyer guilty people hire. You could see how deflated he was to hear that even though he had done superior work.

He is a con man. He just happened to have passed the bar.

He was upset Mike knew he was the type of lawyer that would run the con with him.


He WAS a con man. He is desperately trying not to be Slipping Jimmy and is frustrated that, despite his efforts and actions, he may still be viewed that way

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 Post subject: Re: Better Call Saul
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good dolphin wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
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Ya know what nobody is talking about? How this episode was a lot like Breaking Bad



Mike got the Walter White plan ahead superpowers.


Good episode. Even Saul's limited role was good. He was a little heart broken that Mike knew he was a con man.


He isn't a con man.

Saul is afraid to be thought of as a lawyer guilty people hire. You could see how deflated he was to hear that even though he had done superior work.

He is a con man. He just happened to have passed the bar.

He was upset Mike knew he was the type of lawyer that would run the con with him.


He WAS a con man. He is desperately trying not to be Slipping Jimmy and is frustrated that, despite his efforts and actions, he may still be viewed that way

When he spilled the coffee, he confirmed that he's still a con man

And the rest repeats what I already said


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 Post subject: Re: Better Call Saul
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BB wasn't sinister at all Season 1. Maybe vague hints in hindsight having watch the entire series a few times through.

Relatively, I think BCS is off to a better start than BB. Impossible to reach BB heights though

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BB wasn't sinister at all Season 1.



Oh no! Choking the shit out of Krazy Eight in the basement was good clean fun.

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BB wasn't sinister at all Season 1.



Oh no! Choking the shit out of Krazy Eight in the basement was good clean fun.


Similar levels to watching Mike off two cops...

Plus that was still being clearly framed as Walt as a wholesome family man who thought he had months to live who was doing it all for his family. He also was about to release him based on the furniture store convo until he saw he was going to be stabbed to death.

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 Post subject: Re: Better Call Saul
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rogers park bryan wrote:
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He is a con man. He just happened to have passed the bar.

He was upset Mike knew he was the type of lawyer that would run the con with him.[/quote]

He WAS a con man. He is desperately trying not to be Slipping Jimmy and is frustrated that, despite his efforts and actions, he may still be viewed that way[/quote]
When he spilled the coffee, he confirmed that he's still a con man

And the rest repeats what I already said[/quote]

What did you say, I wasn't paying attention.

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Saul really is a good guy. He totally did the right thing tonight even though it cost him personally.
You gotta love him.

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yes indeed. and fuck the kettlemans. good god that wife...


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yes indeed. and fuck the kettlemans. good god that wife...

Yeah. She's crazy. Then again... Most women are fucking nuts.

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yes indeed. and fuck the kettlemans. good god that wife...

Yeah. She's crazy. Then again... Most women are fucking nuts.


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Yeah. She's crazy. Then again... Most women are fucking nuts.


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no its true. according to john hopkins hospital there is a direct proportion between estrogen and batshit.

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yeah they are, but most would know how to take a deal. they've been doing that for centuries, amirite womyn?


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I only saw the first half, but Saul calling Bingo was hilarious. I love that he had the Bob Barker skinny mic.


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It was a solid episode as usual. Loved the method he used to track the hidden money. Can't believe there are only 3 episodes left this season.
I've been very happily surprised about this first season. I really had no idea that they would be able to flesh this out and make Jimmy a stand
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yeah they are, but most would know how to take a deal. they've been doing that for centuries, amirite womyn?


I don't think they were sufficiently highlighting her deviousness in this whole thing. If her husband goes to trial, she gets that money (or a portion of that money) all to herself. I thought it was obvious she wanted a new/different life and losing the a boring accountant was fine with her. I feel the same way about this board.

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Loved the music that was playing while Mike was looking for the marked cash. Anyone know who that was?


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This show has great dialogue, incredible performances and wonderful individual scenes. But I don't feel like it really adds up to anything. It's less than the sum of its parts.

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I love this show, maybe my favorite on TV right now.

I wish they did a bit more to transition Mike from Philly cop to guy who is breaking into strangers houses to repay a debt. The previous episode showed him as a heartbroken father who went vigilante on corrupt cops.

It's quite possibly me, but there's a big jump from grieving father seeking revenge to soberly, calmly, breaking and entering into those crazy bastards houses.

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I love this show, maybe my favorite on TV right now.

I wish they did a bit more to transition Mike from Philly cop to guy who is breaking into strangers houses to repay a debt. The previous episode showed him as a heartbroken father who went vigilante on corrupt cops.

It's quite possibly me, but there's a big jump from grieving father seeking revenge to soberly, calmly, breaking and entering into those crazy bastards houses.


He was a corrupt cop himself though.

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 Post subject: Re: Better Call Saul
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This show has great dialogue, incredible performances and wonderful individual scenes. But I don't feel like it really adds up to anything. It's less than the sum of its parts.

Could be, but I think you should at least give it the full season and maybe the first part of season 2 to judge it.


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For sure, that makes sense.

I'd imagine, if you didn't watch BB and know what Mike becomes, it would have been helpful learn more details about his corrpution. Even from a character development perspective.

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 Post subject: Re: Better Call Saul
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Northside_Dan wrote:
I love this show, maybe my favorite on TV right now.

I wish they did a bit more to transition Mike from Philly cop to guy who is breaking into strangers houses to repay a debt. The previous episode showed him as a heartbroken father who went vigilante on corrupt cops.

It's quite possibly me, but there's a big jump from grieving father seeking revenge to soberly, calmly, breaking and entering into those crazy bastards houses.

#1 he was corrupt already

#2 A guy like that would jump at the chance to do some "real work" since his life is taking parking tickets now.


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For sure, that makes sense.

I'd imagine, if you didn't watch BB and know what Mike becomes, it would have been helpful learn more details about his corrpution. Even from a character development perspective.



Maybe there will be more Philly flashbacks.

Is it just me, or when they show the flashbacks are they shot with a super bright light, almost like what some director might use for a scene in heaven or something?

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 Post subject: Re: Better Call Saul
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For sure, that makes sense.

I'd imagine, if you didn't watch BB and know what Mike becomes, it would have been helpful learn more details about his corrpution. Even from a character development perspective.



Maybe there will be more Philly flashbacks.

Is it just me, or when they show the flashbacks are they shot with a super bright light, almost like what some director might use for a scene in heaven or something?


Yes, they are. They use a process called bleach bypassing to give it a washed out or silvery type of look so it's easier for the viewer to identify the time shift.

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This show has great dialogue, incredible performances and wonderful individual scenes. But I don't feel like it really adds up to anything. It's less than the sum of its parts.

That's the thing: it doesn't have to "add up to anything" in the immediate future, because we already know what happens later on.

We are just in the connect-the-dots stage - which stage could last forever and I would not mind, as I think it is pacing quite well.


It's true that we know what happens, but we don't know how it happened. The show is trying to create suspense by developing this aspect of the narrative, but I'm not sure that's enough to drive a TV show.

In Breaking Bad's case, we didn't know what was going to happen OR how it was going to happen. So there was a lot more suspense incorporated into the story. Plus that show had a more interesting overall plot with better characters.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
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This show has great dialogue, incredible performances and wonderful individual scenes. But I don't feel like it really adds up to anything. It's less than the sum of its parts.

Could be, but I think you should at least give it the full season and maybe the first part of season 2 to judge it.


Yeah, well, I'm still watching. I just think the giddiness in this thread derives more much more from the greatness of Breaking Bad than it does the greatness of Better Call Saul. Better Call Saul is a nice little show so far, and it doesn't give much hint that it's aspiring to anything more. Breaking Bad was completely different almost from its first episode.

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I love this show but I agree with TM to a degree - mainly that the supporting characters just aren't that great.

The best characters are Jimmy and Mike. I'd like to think that's just because we know so much more about them but I don't think it is.

Kim has a chance to be somewhat interesting but I'm not quite sure on that. I really have already tired of Michael McKean's character. And Hamlin is a nothing as of now.

I have some faith that Gilligan and Co. can come up with a storyline to make these characters great but I don't really expect it will happen.

That said, a show that's 80% Mike and Jimmy is still a great show.

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i think this first season is intentionally dull. were watching the character development that we didnt see in breaking bad... in that show these guys were already the badass guys. this show we see them before they were badass. i think next season will get a LOT more interesting... especially when saul becomes saul.

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