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The Leftovers was perfect television.

Rectify too.

Leftovers us the hipster choice. It was really good and unique but far from perfect.

It gets a pass for plot holes because of the weirdness


What was less than perfect?

The entire thing. It was a good interesting unique character driven show but there was nothing there to make it great or even among the greatest

What makes it great for you?


The entire thing. The characters develop from season 1 through season 3 in ways that feel true. Kevin is a skeptic through most of the series, even when he tries to believe there are things going on he can't explain. Throw in a bit of weird stuff and you have a great show.


Yeah, all of that. Plus it had literary pretensions that aren't so common on television. That appealed to the English student in me.

There are a lot of different ways one could look at what actually occurred. I think that the Sudden Departure caused Kevin to come unglued. He was losing his mind and deep down he knew it.

It's my favorite show ever. There's nothing else even in the conversation.


Do you believe Nora in the finale? I do. Man, that'd be a crazy version to see.


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Do you believe Nora in the finale? I do. Man, that'd be a crazy version to see.


No, I don't believe her. But Kevin who never had faith in anything has faith in her.

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Do you believe Nora in the finale? I do. Man, that'd be a crazy version to see.


No, I don't believe her. But Kevin who never had faith in anything has faith in her.


So Nora was just making up her story?

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GRRM making news that Winds of Winter will be out next summer.

I feel like Charlie Brown charging for that fucking football.

This time I'm gonna kick it...

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Jon: "Um, yeah, you and everyone who just watched her slaughter a city :roll: "


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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
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Do you believe Nora in the finale? I do. Man, that'd be a crazy version to see.


No, I don't believe her. But Kevin who never had faith in anything has faith in her.


So Nora was just making up her story?



That's my take. What do you think? In any case, I think the point is that it didn't matter to Kevin.

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Since so many people didn't like the season, how about this for an ending?

Jon Snow kills the Night King. Arya kills Dany wearing the face of Grey Worm. Jon Snow is King. Arya flees. Bran goes to live in a tree.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Since so many people didn't like the season, how about this for an ending?

Jon Snow kills the Night King. Arya kills Dany wearing the face of Grey Worm. Jon Snow is King. Arya flees. Bran goes to live in a tree.



I would have been happy if the Unsullied had charged Jon after he killed Dany and Jon hopped on Drogon and fried all of them.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Since so many people didn't like the season, how about this for an ending?

Jon Snow kills the Night King. Arya kills Dany wearing the face of Grey Worm. Jon Snow is King. Arya flees. Bran goes to live in a tree.



I would have been happy if the Unsullied had charged Jon after he killed Dany and Jon hopped on Drogon and fried all of them.
I don't understand why we didn't get Jon vs. Grey Worm in a trial by combat.

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Rick, the season sucked. It's almost a universal truth. Almost all the plot development that happened the past seven years was thrown out the window when making this season. It's objectively a shoddy piece of art on the part of the writers.

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Rick, the season sucked. It's almost a universal truth. Almost all the plot development that happened the past seven years was thrown out the window when making this season. It's objectively a shoddy piece of art on the part of the writers.
It wasn't as good as other seasons but it didn't suck.

If this season sucked then this show wasn't good since the Red Wedding.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Rick, the season sucked. It's almost a universal truth. Almost all the plot development that happened the past seven years was thrown out the window when making this season. It's objectively a shoddy piece of art on the part of the writers.
It wasn't as good as other seasons but it didn't suck.

If this season sucked then this show wasn't good since the Red Wedding.

Season 6 was great.

All the book purists are annoying as fuck, but season 8 did fall off a cliff.

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Rick, the season sucked. It's almost a universal truth. Almost all the plot development that happened the past seven years was thrown out the window when making this season. It's objectively a shoddy piece of art on the part of the writers.
It wasn't as good as other seasons but it didn't suck.

If this season sucked then this show wasn't good since the Red Wedding.

Season 6 was great.

All the book purists are annoying as fuck, but season 8 did fall off a cliff.

You can do the same nitpicking for every season since the Red Wedding. That's not to say there aren't valid complaints about this season but people are mad a war at night was too dark and that too many main characters lived.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Rick, the season sucked. It's almost a universal truth. Almost all the plot development that happened the past seven years was thrown out the window when making this season. It's objectively a shoddy piece of art on the part of the writers.
It wasn't as good as other seasons but it didn't suck.

If this season sucked then this show wasn't good since the Red Wedding.

Season 6 was great.

All the book purists are annoying as fuck, but season 8 did fall off a cliff.

You can do the same nitpicking for every season since the Red Wedding. That's not to say there aren't valid complaints about this season but people are mad a war at night was too dark and that too many main characters lived.


No they're not - you appear to be using the posts of preteens to generalize what you think people are critiquing about the season. Better examples including the writers bizarrely wasting multiple seasons of building up a deeper significance of the army of the undead (including their unique symbol that appeared to communicate something) only to kill them off with no closure, abandoning the plot of Cersei's pregnancy, presumably because they had no time to figure out how to expand on it, which is just lazy and embarrassing, and similarly totally botching Bran's multi-season evolution into the Three-Eyed Raven. That's just wasted potential right there - he could have done so much more this season using his powers, but instead he played no major role whatsoever, so it's unclear just what all that character development was meant for when looking at how he was actually deployed this season. Season eight is like a final paper that concludes something entirely different than what its well-developed arguments in the middle of the paper suggest - there's no connection.

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veganfan21 wrote:
Better examples including the writers bizarrely wasting multiple seasons of building up a deeper significance of the army of the undead (including their unique symbol that appeared to communicate something) only to kill them off with no closure


Yeah, in a way this was worse than the ending of the first True Detective. What was the point of the undead in this story at all? It really just wasted time and distracted from the meat of the story which is Westerosi politics.

It's sort of like if Paulie and Chris had seen the New Jersey Devil in the Pine Barrens and David Chase had spent six seasons on a storyline about that culminating with the Sopranos and Lupertazzis joining forces to kill him after which they just resumed killing each other.

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jesus Christ you fucking clowns have spent more time talking about this stupid show than the writers spent writing it. Move on, its over and if the writers didn't think it was worth putting an effort in then you guys are morons for still giving a shit. Let it die the weak death it deserves.

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jesus Christ you fucking clowns have spent more time talking about this stupid show than the writers spent writing it. Move on, its over and if the writers didn't think it was worth putting an effort in then you guys are morons for still giving a shit. Let it die the weak death it deserves.

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shakes wrote:
jesus Christ you fucking clowns have spent more time talking about this stupid show than the writers spent writing it. Move on, its over and if the writers didn't think it was worth putting an effort in then you guys are morons for still giving a shit. Let it die the weak death it deserves.

Break your back and then go kill yourself.

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jesus Christ you fucking clowns have spent more time talking about this stupid show than the writers spent writing it. Move on, its over and if the writers didn't think it was worth putting an effort in then you guys are morons for still giving a shit. Let it die the weak death it deserves.

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shakes wrote:
jesus Christ you fucking clowns have spent more time talking about this stupid show than the writers spent writing it. Move on, its over and if the writers didn't think it was worth putting an effort in then you guys are morons for still giving a shit. Let it die the weak death it deserves.

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jesus Christ you fucking clowns have spent more time talking about this stupid show than the writers spent writing it. Move on, its over and if the writers didn't think it was worth putting an effort in then you guys are morons for still giving a shit. Let it die the weak death it deserves.

Take your pills and smoke some wax.

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Douchebag wrote:
shakes wrote:
jesus Christ you fucking clowns have spent more time talking about this stupid show than the writers spent writing it. Move on, its over and if the writers didn't think it was worth putting an effort in then you guys are morons for still giving a shit. Let it die the weak death it deserves.

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:lol: :lol: :lol: Gotta admit......that was funny :!: :!: :!:

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Rick, the season sucked. It's almost a universal truth. Almost all the plot development that happened the past seven years was thrown out the window when making this season. It's objectively a shoddy piece of art on the part of the writers.
It wasn't as good as other seasons but it didn't suck.

If this season sucked then this show wasn't good since the Red Wedding.

Season 6 was great.

All the book purists are annoying as fuck, but season 8 did fall off a cliff.

You can do the same nitpicking for every season since the Red Wedding. That's not to say there aren't valid complaints about this season but people are mad a war at night was too dark and that too many main characters lived.


No they're not - you appear to be using the posts of preteens to generalize what you think people are critiquing about the season. Better examples including the writers bizarrely wasting multiple seasons of building up a deeper significance of the army of the undead (including their unique symbol that appeared to communicate something) only to kill them off with no closure, abandoning the plot of Cersei's pregnancy, presumably because they had no time to figure out how to expand on it, which is just lazy and embarrassing, and similarly totally botching Bran's multi-season evolution into the Three-Eyed Raven. That's just wasted potential right there - he could have done so much more this season using his powers, but instead he played no major role whatsoever, so it's unclear just what all that character development was meant for when looking at how he was actually deployed this season. Season eight is like a final paper that concludes something entirely different than what its well-developed arguments in the middle of the paper suggest - there's no connection.

They abandoned the story of her pregnancy because she died. :lol:

Not much to expand on there.

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They abandoned the story of her pregnancy because she died. :lol:

Not much to expand on there.


What was the point of even making her pregnant?

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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They abandoned the story of her pregnancy because she died. :lol:

Not much to expand on there.


What was the point of even making her pregnant?


To pull Jaime back and to fool Euron.

But it doesn't matter.

She was never pregnant.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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They abandoned the story of her pregnancy because she died. :lol:

Not much to expand on there.


What was the point of even making her pregnant?


To pull Jaime back and to fool Euron.

But it doesn't matter.

She was never pregnant.


No, she was pregnant by Jamie. That is pretty clear. Once again, though, this was all about a very rushed ending to a lot of potential story lines. The more I think about it, they needed about three more 2 hour episodes at least. To cut this season off like it was really is a bad decision on the part of the decision makers of HBO. It was a terrific series all around but they left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths with the way they ended it.

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I agree with shakes, the show has sucked for years. Why beat a dead horse on a shitty ending to a shitty show.

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Next series should just be Arya west of Westeros doing a Kung Fu/Incredible Hulk thing. Could do 8 seasons on that building an interesting world.

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The spinoff would be way better with competent writers, gendry, Jon, Braun all trying to topple each other's castle. Bran gets tossed out of a window again n dies.

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