billypootons wrote:
long time guy wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
There was contact but that wasn't a foul in that era, in that situation, especially as it did not affect the shot.
They called those sort of fouls then. Just not as often. The problem was that Pippen was late on the closeout That's what created the foul
https://www.espn.com/nba/playoffs/2009/columns/story?columnist=adande_ja&page=Hollins-090529Quote:
Technically a player is defined as being in the act of shooting from the time he goes up for the shot until after he has landed back on the ground. Except, as even Davis admits, "That's a call you normally don't get."
Today, with concern about defenders sliding under shooters and causing injuries, it gets called more often. That wasn't the case back then, and certainly not with a playoff outcome riding on it. Steve Kerr had been hit the same way several times that year, his first with the Bulls, and never was sent to the free-throw line.
"I went to the ref every time and they said, 'It doesn't matter, the shot was released," Kerr says. "Back then it was not called. And every time I asked the ref, I got the exact same explanation: Once you release the shot it doesn't matter."
Jordan got those sort of calls all the time back then Kareem got the same call against Laimbeer in the Finals against Detroit. Now there was a phantom foul if ever there was a foul.
Hubie Brown said that it was "definitely a foul" and a former coach and guy that has been around the game forever I'd like to think that he would know.
Just like traveling. It was rarely called but that still doesn't mean that when they call it that it isn't such.
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Pippen got back a split-second too late, Davis released the ball and then Pippen made contact with Davis' arms on the follow-through. The shot bounced off the right side of the rim, and for the briefest of moments it appeared the Bulls were going to win the game. But Hollins had blown his whistle, a late whistle, just as the shot was approaching the rim.
"When I heard the whistle, it was like 'What happened? Who fouled?'" Pippen recalls. "I didn't think I had made a foul."
Technically a player is defined as being in the act of shooting from the time he goes up for the shot until after he has landed back on the ground. Except, as even Davis admits, "That's a call you normally don't get."
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The Hawk wrote:
This is going to reach a head pretty soon.