I thought the mirror scene was supposed to reflect (hey-o) Luke’s swamp cave scene on Dagobah.

Haven't posted in a while but dropped in to say I was extremely disappointed in the movie. It didn't have to feel like a "Star Wars" movie, but Rian Johnson just decided to take on a piss on everything. The humor was bad and there was far too much of it. The original trilogy used humor well that did not detract from the seriousness of a situation. But this movie forced some horrible pun or dialogue or action on just about any potentially touching or serious moment.

I think this is ultimately what boils down to me not liking it. For the first time in forever, I am not looking forward to the next Star Wars movie. This movie killed all the potential mysteries set up in the Force Awakens. And it decimated characters, plots and numbers on both sides that it essentially forced episode IX to be stripped down. Honestly what is there to look forward to at this point? Han, Luke, Leia, Ackbar? Instead we'll get more of the fascinating Rose storyline! Can't wait for that

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Aren’t those han solo movies going to be played by some 12 year old kid or teen? Makes me want to automatically pass.

It's just odd having Johnson direct this movie and not have to pick up on previously unresolved dangling threads. Especially since Abrams is back next time.

So you have basically a standalone movie in between 2 JJ movies.

Feels like bad planning.

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Guy is 23 or so. Looks young but doesn’t everyone these days.

Some more thoughts/observations (spoilers ahead....)

Another Deus Ex Machina problem I have (the first being Luke's astral projection trick) is the suicide-by-hyperdrive move. If that were a valid strategy, why wasn't it suggested before in any of the other movies, and wouldn't that risk have to be addressed when constructing a ship's defenses? (Not to mention, why couldn't Laura Dern's character tell the crew of the plan and avoid a mutiny?)

Regarding the film's humor, some of it seemed out of place (the opening "hello game" between Hux and Poe) and some was repetitive (the scene where Chewbacca is about to eat a cooked Porg and gets the look from the other Porgs...the idea was good, but they kept going back and forth too many times). I did like Luke chucking the light saber after Rey handed it to him at the beginning.

Did not like Snoke's throne room. Looked like a cheap Wizard of Oz stage. Snoke was given no back story and was quickly dispatched (but I liked the kill scene, despite Snoke saying he could read Ren's mind).

Did not like Leia's "Force Jesus" moment, floating back to the ship. I wonder how Abrams is going to kill her off in Ep 9 (seeing as Lucasfilm said there would be no CGI recreations).

Could have done without the Canto Bight casino scenes as well as the codebreaker character. And Rose, for that matter...is she dead? (Seemed to be, but then maybe not.)

Thought it was out of character for Luke to contemplate murdering Ren (which then caused Ren to counterattack), but I guess it did explain a motivation for Ren to be angry and not simply a Vader fanboy.

Overall, I thought the acting was very good (especially by Hamill)... except for Dern, who I hated. As I mentioned, the music was lacking -- Williams mailed it in as far as I'm concerned.

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they had an opportunity with Luke standing like a mad man over Ren by doing some dark side stuff.

Didn't have an issue with the hyoerdrive suicide move on its own, but I agree that the not communicating the plan was idiotic. I get they did it to give Finn and random Asian girl something to do but it sucked.

Agreed abut the humor. That opener turned Hux from a somewhat viable menacing villain to a clown. I'm already on record as being a fan of the porg stuff. Probably because my son laughed at those scenes.

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Critical reviews :

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/last-jedi-la ... 16681.html I agree with some of it. Read the comments section too.

http://www.vulture.com/2017/12/star-war ... oblem.html

force ghosting, while not in the movies, was shown between Ezra and Yoda in Season 8 of the Rebels animated series.

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@audioidkid

No I believe they will focus on Han as a young man and tell the story about how he ended up winning the Millenium Falcon from Lando
among other things. The cast is all young adults. I have not heard that they would go back and explain where he actually comes from.

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Flew too close to the sun on wings of pastrami

This movie really sucked.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

Laura Dern ruins every movie she is in. She is the worst. Can't stand her.

Yeah, her performance was leaden and her whole subplot was incomprehensibly dumb. What was the point of keeping her escape plan so secretive?

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This cast looks like shit. Looks like a Nickelodeon show with star wars mixed in. Woody Harrellson too? Yuck! Chewbacca looks miscast in this picture. Maybe they should have him wearing a snarky sweater in these movies.

Why do young adults in their 20s these days look like they're 5-7 years younger?

Yup. When I saw her show up with that stupid looking purple hair I was like completely bad casting. Was this some kind of inside Hollywood favor given to her? Sort of like in Force Awakens where you had those b - level actors who got to be rebel fighters because they were buds w/ the director.

Every time you see her in a movie its a hollywood favor to her father.

Dern did a good enough job, it wasn't her fault the script was dumb. She'd have been a fine replacement for Leia in the next movie if Carrie didn't kick the bucket after filming and they hastily killed her off in this one. The best minor role was the grumpy First Order Captain whose ship got blown up at the beginning, he gave a great "we'd have been fine if we did what I wanted, but no, those dipshits above me wouldn't let me launch the damn fighters 5 minutes ago and now I'm dead" performance.

i saw this yesterday in IMAX 3-D.

For those who are angry that this is "no longer their 'Star Wars'", that happened to me in 1999 with Episode I. i think for me, i was over it all because of that trilogy.

Aside from some of the goofy stuff (someone mentioned the space leia thing), I didn't really have a problem with the outlandish action stuff and i do enjoy the new characters. and i really liked luke here.

i guess i am of the mindset that if i'm going to forgive the bombastic rubbish in Marvel films, i can't complain about them in a "Star Wars" movie--and to me, these films are getting more similar. it's goofball popcorn stuff.

the only thing that isn't working for me is the villain, which could play a huge role in a disappointing finale. kylo ren is not good. and i think it has to do with adam driver. he's not a credible badass, and his emo pity party stuff is just really lame. a Millennial bad guy doesn't hold a candle to what a villain should be. he doesn't have to be darth vader, but he has to be believable.

snoke doesn't hold up either...he's just a bad copy of palpatine.

there are also too many climaxes throughout the final act. so much goes on, i kept wondering...when does this wrap up?

but overall, i can't say i didn't enjoy it. it was still fun to me. but i'm not really optimistic about how it ends, at this point.

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Agree with many of the comments by Jaw Breaker and W_Z

The scene where you think a ship is landing but it turns out to be an iron reminded me of something from Police Squad.

I don't have a problem with Leia finally using Force powers. Given her bloodline she should have them, but the fact that she looked like Mary Poppins while doing it is what I thought was silly.

How did both Rey and Kylo wind up in headlocks when they were fighting Snoke's guards? Given their powers they should have been able to defeat them more easily. At least the guards didn't give them noogies.

This movie was prequel level bad. Absolute trash. Kept waiting for it to get good, and it didn't happen. Snoke was a pointless character, and I completely understand why Mark Hammil is shitting on the film.

W_Z, not trying to be an asshole, but this film was nowhere near as close to the quality of Thor: Ragnorak or Dunkirk. You also gave them 3 smilies.

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"thor" was trash, too. it's just really good trash. it's still comic book level stuff. there's no depth, it's just goofball stuff. "guardians" is one of the few marvel franchises to rise above that level. but a lot of the marvel flicks are on the same level as this "star wars" film.

i don't know what your thing is with bringing up "dunkirk" in relation to films like these. they're completely different kinds of movies.

We went to Disney World right after seeing this and we got my son signed up for the Jedi Training Academy performance that they do at Hollywood Studios. They split the kids into two small groups and one fights Darth Vader and the other fights Kylo Ren. Hank Jr got put with Vader and I was geeking out big time. I took a million pics and videos. When it was over I said "You got to fight Vader!!! How awesome was that?!?!" He replied "It was soooooo cool!!! I just wish that I had been in the Kylo Ren group."

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Damn kids...

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Yeah, he wasn't pouting about it or anything but even the offhand comment killed me. An emo jackass wannabe or one of the greatest villains of all time (episodes 4-6 and R1, lets forget the NOOOOOOOOOO scene)

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I agree there has to be a certain level of suspension of disbelief with any of these movies, but there should also be care taken not to introduce concepts that make other films in the series seem inconsistent. For example, Gareth Edwards (the director of Rogue One) mentioned that when they were writing the one-man-wrecking-crew scene at the end, they had all kinds of suggestions for moves Vader might make—some that we haven’t seen before. But Edwards insisted that they would only use actions that had been shown in previous movies. If Darth had shown some new mystical powers like time travel or invisibility etc, I think people would have felt like it was cheating.

That’s kind of how I felt about Luke’s projection. It’s a godlike power and in the future we’ll have to wonder if what we’re watching is “real” or an image (unless he’s the only one to ever learn that ability).

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I agree the series somewhat died w the prequels but at least the prequels has some type of strong storyline. This movie did not. The more time that passes by the more I dislike it.

Disney is going to make a mockery of Star Wars. But they should because it’s good business. Have a half assed Star Wars movie every year or every other year will make them millions.

The thing that was special about SW was it was a rare series. Lucas kept his word he would wait 20 years for the prequels. It made the series special that you’d only get a chance to see a new trilogy once a generation. Now that’s dead w Disney taking over.

Agree w Kylo Ren emo thing. But I wonder if that sells to younger audiences than us old timers.

This movie was an incoherent, inconsistent pile of trash:

--Rey is completely untrained, but has the power and skills of a Jedi master. Ridiculous. The whole concept of Jedi training has been abandoned. Anyone can apparently kick some intragalactic ass if the thought occurs to them. Kind of makes you wonder how the First Order maintains power, doesn't it?
--Snoke serves absolutely no purpose; his entire existence is a red herring.
--Holdo had no reason to keep her escape plan secret from Poe or anyone else. This nonsensical "strategy" generated much of the plot and was absolutely pointless.
--The mythology developed by the prequels strongly implies that connection to the Force is based on heredity; this film seems to reject that notion entirely, although it is so poorly conceived that it is either unable or unwilling to forward any kind of alternative origin narrative.

I give it out of and wish a moderate case of the runs on the confused monkey that wrote this script.

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Im hearing this movie sucked.

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