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I'll have to stick to my guns in backing my all-time favorite movie from my childhood:

The 1956 version of The Lone Ranger. It had a great story and plenty of action.

No better cowboy than fellow Chicagoan,Clayton Moore.

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But Tom why did ya do it? Maybe It's Jimmy Stewart. He fits in It's a Wonderful Life but otherwise...ehh. He's your favorite actor no?


He is not. John Wayne would be above him then maybe Tom Hanks.

But I do love Jimmy. He’s in The Shootist with Wayne also as the worst bedside manner doctor of all time. OF ALL TIME.

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I'll have to stick to my guns in backing my all-time favorite movie from my childhood:

The 1956 version of The Lone Ranger. It had a great story and plenty of action.

No better cowboy than fellow Chicagoan,Clayton Moore.


I miss the weekend mornings of The Lone Ranger and The Cisco Kid.

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You're so Hollywood.


I was a big Thomas Henderson fan.

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This will sound weird but I never liked John Wayne westerns and that's what he's known for.

Gary Cooper is my favorite cowboy.

Some of the spahgetti westerns are good too. There was a time some of these movies were made in Italian and dubbed into English.


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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
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I don't think I've ever watched a Western.


Why?

Watch The Shootist or Liberty Valance or if you want darker...The Searchers.

Red River is almost great. My mom thought Montgomery Clift was good-looking.


I just watched the end of liberty valance that's what I don't want to watch.


You can’t just watch the end.

It loses all the meaning.

Don’t ever watch another Western. You don’t deserve them.


I watched it for first time a few weeks back. I’m not a huge John Wayne guy but I wonder now if I would enjoy them more now vs when my dad watched them in my back when I was a kid.


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This will sound weird but I never liked John Wayne westerns and that's what he's known for.

Gary Cooper is my favorite cowboy.

Some of the spahgetti westerns are good too. There was a time some of these movies were made in Italian and dubbed into English.




John Wayne was an awful actor.

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Drunk Squirrel wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Spaulding wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
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I don't think I've ever watched a Western.


Why?

Watch The Shootist or Liberty Valance or if you want darker...The Searchers.

Red River is almost great. My mom thought Montgomery Clift was good-looking.


I just watched the end of liberty valance that's what I don't want to watch.


You can’t just watch the end.

It loses all the meaning.

Don’t ever watch another Western. You don’t deserve them.


I watched it for first time a few weeks back. I’m not a huge John Wayne guy but I wonder now if I would enjoy them more now vs when my dad watched them in my back when I was a kid.


I imagine you would and that it also would be true about many things.

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This will sound weird but I never liked John Wayne westerns and that's what he's known for.

Gary Cooper is my favorite cowboy.

Some of the spahgetti westerns are good too. There was a time some of these movies were made in Italian and dubbed into English.




John Wayne was an awful actor.


John Wayne and his acting ability does not seem to be what people come to love. I feel there is more of a sentimentality or a feeling that his movies are like a nap with your favorite blankie.

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pittmike wrote:
Drunk Squirrel wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Spaulding wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Spaulding wrote:
I don't think I've ever watched a Western.


Why?

Watch The Shootist or Liberty Valance or if you want darker...The Searchers.

Red River is almost great. My mom thought Montgomery Clift was good-looking.


I just watched the end of liberty valance that's what I don't want to watch.


You can’t just watch the end.

It loses all the meaning.

Don’t ever watch another Western. You don’t deserve them.


I watched it for first time a few weeks back. I’m not a huge John Wayne guy but I wonder now if I would enjoy them more now vs when my dad watched them in my back when I was a kid.


I imagine you would and that it also would be true about many things.


For sure.. there are too many times that I realize that my mom and dad did actually know what they were talking about when it came to a few things. Except for their love of bearded dogs.. I just can’t get on board with that.

And I thouroughly enjoyed Liberty Vance. Even stayed up late to finish i.


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It's Valance not Vance.

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312player wrote:
HawaiiYou wrote:
This will sound weird but I never liked John Wayne westerns and that's what he's known for.

Gary Cooper is my favorite cowboy.

Some of the spahgetti westerns are good too. There was a time some of these movies were made in Italian and dubbed into English.




John Wayne was an awful actor.


He wasn't an actor. He was John Wayne.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
312player wrote:
HawaiiYou wrote:
This will sound weird but I never liked John Wayne westerns and that's what he's known for.

Gary Cooper is my favorite cowboy.

Some of the spahgetti westerns are good too. There was a time some of these movies were made in Italian and dubbed into English.




John Wayne was an awful actor.


He wasn't an actor. He was John Wayne.


He was godfuckignawful in The Quiet Man, which itself was godfuckingawful. But I was surprised how good he was in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence.


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tommy wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
312player wrote:
HawaiiYou wrote:
This will sound weird but I never liked John Wayne westerns and that's what he's known for.

Gary Cooper is my favorite cowboy.

Some of the spahgetti westerns are good too. There was a time some of these movies were made in Italian and dubbed into English.




John Wayne was an awful actor.


He wasn't an actor. He was John Wayne.


He was godfuckignawful in The Quiet Man, which itself was godfuckingawful. But I was surprised how good he was in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence.


He was.

I think his best actual acting jobs were in The Searchers or The Shootist. He's also very good in Red River but that movie didn't stick the landing.

And, of course, when he played Genghis Khan in The Conqueror.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
tommy wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
312player wrote:
HawaiiYou wrote:
This will sound weird but I never liked John Wayne westerns and that's what he's known for.

Gary Cooper is my favorite cowboy.

Some of the spahgetti westerns are good too. There was a time some of these movies were made in Italian and dubbed into English.




John Wayne was an awful actor.


He wasn't an actor. He was John Wayne.


He was godfuckignawful in The Quiet Man, which itself was godfuckingawful. But I was surprised how good he was in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence.


He was.

I think his best actual acting jobs were in The Searchers or The Shootist. He's also very good in Red River but that movie didn't stick the landing.

And, of course, when he played Genghis Khan in The Conqueror.

Still have The Searches on my list, but agree with The Shootist. And many apologies for not italicizing The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence above. Embarrassing.


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tommy wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
312player wrote:
HawaiiYou wrote:
This will sound weird but I never liked John Wayne westerns and that's what he's known for.

Gary Cooper is my favorite cowboy.

Some of the spahgetti westerns are good too. There was a time some of these movies were made in Italian and dubbed into English.




John Wayne was an awful actor.


He wasn't an actor. He was John Wayne.


He was godfuckignawful in The Quiet Man, which itself was godfuckingawful. But I was surprised how good he was in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence.


He was good in that because he had Jimmy Stewart to carry most of the movie.


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tommy wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
312player wrote:
HawaiiYou wrote:
This will sound weird but I never liked John Wayne westerns and that's what he's known for.

Gary Cooper is my favorite cowboy.

Some of the spahgetti westerns are good too. There was a time some of these movies were made in Italian and dubbed into English.




John Wayne was an awful actor.


He wasn't an actor. He was John Wayne.


He was godfuckignawful in The Quiet Man, which itself was godfuckingawful. But I was surprised how good he was in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence.


The Quiet Man was fine. It was basically a tourism promo video for Ireland, or at least an idealized American version of Ireland.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
tommy wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
312player wrote:
HawaiiYou wrote:
This will sound weird but I never liked John Wayne westerns and that's what he's known for.

Gary Cooper is my favorite cowboy.

Some of the spahgetti westerns are good too. There was a time some of these movies were made in Italian and dubbed into English.




John Wayne was an awful actor.


He wasn't an actor. He was John Wayne.


He was godfuckignawful in The Quiet Man, which itself was godfuckingawful. But I was surprised how good he was in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence.


The Quiet Man was fine. It was basically a tourism promo video for Ireland, or at least an idealized American version of Ireland.


Did a good job at that.

The Quiet Man is an odd movie. At times it is a complete farcical comedy and other times it's a real drama. His dramatic scenes with Maureen O'Hara are very good.

But, of course, he's going to look silly in the comedy scenes. That's how they were written. It's one of Wayne's better efforts. John Ford always got the best out of Wayne.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
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tommy wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
312player wrote:
HawaiiYou wrote:
This will sound weird but I never liked John Wayne westerns and that's what he's known for.

Gary Cooper is my favorite cowboy.

Some of the spahgetti westerns are good too. There was a time some of these movies were made in Italian and dubbed into English.




John Wayne was an awful actor.


He wasn't an actor. He was John Wayne.


He was godfuckignawful in The Quiet Man, which itself was godfuckingawful. But I was surprised how good he was in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence.


The Quiet Man was fine. It was basically a tourism promo video for Ireland, or at least an idealized American version of Ireland.


Did a good job at that.

The Quiet Man is an odd movie. At times it is a complete farcical comedy and other times it's a real drama. His dramatic scenes with Maureen O'Hara are very good.

But, of course, he's going to look silly in the comedy scenes. That's how they were written. It's one of Wayne's better efforts. John Ford always got the best out of Wayne.

Evil: a) Complete lack of an accent. He was supposed to have lived in Ireland for ten years as a kid. Come on, man, do your homework, John Wayne! b) The shit you said about Juan Wayne and comedy. c) Terry's Peeps is out of line.


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Evil: a) Complete lack of an accent. He was supposed to have lived in Ireland for ten years as a kid. Come on, man, do your homework, John Wayne! b) The shit you said about Juan Wayne and comedy. c) Terry's Peeps is out of line.


A) He got rid of the stupid potato eater accent as a yute and became a famous boxer.
B) He's John Wayne. He can do whatever he wants.
C) I'm out of line?? You're out of line! The whole damn SYSTEM is out of line!!

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Evil: a) Complete lack of an accent. He was supposed to have lived in Ireland for ten years as a kid. Come on, man, do your homework, John Wayne! b) The shit you said about Juan Wayne and comedy. c) Terry's Peeps is out of line.


A) He got rid of the stupid potato eater accent as a yute and became a famous boxer.
B) He's John Wayne. He can do whatever he wants.
C) I'm out of line?? You're out of line! The whole damn SYSTEM is out of line!!

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I cannot believe I'm reading hate on the The Quiet Man.

Turned what could have been a good story into a farce. It was like watching a fucking musical comedy with its pirouetting and stupid sub-plots.


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First, Quiet Man isn't a western. Obviously. The movie is good as a postcard of Ireland in color. The restored version is pretty vibrant. Wayne isn't really at home in that movie. But the character actors are great in that movie.

Westerns, Best and bear in mind I'm a pretty big John Wayne fan...

The Magnificent Seven-best non-Wayne western
The War Wagon-with Kirk Douglas, great underrated flick and good opening song
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence
Rio Bravo
Red River
High Noon

I have 3:10 to Yuma sitting in wrap still, I should watch that then?

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First, Quiet Man isn't a western. Obviously. The movie is good as a postcard of Ireland in color. The restored version is pretty vibrant. Wayne isn't really at home in that movie. But the character actors are great in that movie.

Westerns, Best and bear in mind I'm a pretty big John Wayne fan...

The Magnificent Seven-best non-Wayne western
The War Wagon-with Kirk Douglas, great underrated flick and good opening song
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence
Rio Bravo
Red River
High Noon

I have 3:10 to Yuma sitting in wrap still, I should watch that then?

Yeah, it's really good.

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