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No "McNutty" love? Best TV cop ever. The more he ruined himself, the more entertaining he was.


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What about Chris and Snoop? That little chick likes killin! That scene in epsiode one of season four where snoop bought the nail gun was priceless.


But maybe the best character ever was Snot Boogie. Great acting!!!


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Whitey loves to trump this show. Shows whitey has street cred and can appreciate really important television. It's good but there were too many horseshit plots in the final season. Still feel the show is a possible GOAT just for its exploration of urban decline. Omar is very overrated. He got way too cartoony towards the end. First two seasons are the best. Show slipped when Evil Incarnate Marlo was introduced. Ziggy might be the best character ever on The Wire.

You missed the entire point of The Wire. Seasons 3 and 4 were not only the best, but also the most important.


One and three were the best. then two. Four and five were my least fav. Too much about the school kids in four.


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I still need to watch this thing. Maybe this summer

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 Post subject: Re: The Wire
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Believe its on demand rignt now on Comcast


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 Post subject: Re: The Wire
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Bunk was overrated


There I said it.



He was still good, but being that he is a lot of people's favorite character, I was underwhelmed


There is really no sense arguing about which is the best of the first four seasons.


The first four were perfect television. The fifth was just a notch below that.


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Believe its on demand rignt now on Comcast


I don't have Comcast. I have HBO but never set up my HBO GO account and I think it should be on there.
I think you have to watch that online and I don't have a tablet or much interest in getting it hooked up.

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 Post subject: Re: The Wire
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Believe its on demand rignt now on Comcast


I don't have Comcast. I have HBO but never set up my HBO GO account and I think it should be on there.
I think you have to watch that online and I don't have a tablet or much interest in getting it hooked up.

Oh, yeah, its for sure on HBOGO. That's how I watched it.

Tablet's are pretty inexpensive and awesome, T Bone.

And the HBO GO app works well even on Mobile 3g


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rogers park bryan wrote:
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Believe its on demand rignt now on Comcast


I don't have Comcast. I have HBO but never set up my HBO GO account and I think it should be on there.
I think you have to watch that online and I don't have a tablet or much interest in getting it hooked up.

Oh, yeah, its for sure on HBOGO. That's how I watched it.

Tablet's are pretty inexpensive and awesome, T Bone.

And the HBO GO app works well even on Mobile 3g


I have a laptop and maybe use it twice a week for a few minutes. Really no interest in a tablet right now.
I would rather be able to have a little marathon watching session and catch it on my 46". I don't have Netflix
either otherwise I would have rented it by now. I'll figure something out eventually.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Bunk was overrated


There I said it.



He was still good, but being that he is a lot of people's favorite character, I was underwhelmed


There is really no sense arguing about which is the best of the first four seasons.


The first four were perfect television. The fifth was just a notch below that.

Bunk was fucking awesome.

I think he was the one who first said one the series key phrases - There you go, givin a fuck when it aint your turn to give a fuck

One half of the one of the most famous scenes, where him and Jimmy go through a crime scene figuring out everything that happened and only saying the word Fuck.

When he got fucked up at that woman's house and burned his clothes and Jimmy had to come get him... :lol: :lol:

His scene with him and Omar where he calls Omar a predatory motherfucker and is the first person to call Omar out for not being heroic, and Omar get all watery eyed and shit and realizes he's right is another one of the best scenes of the series. There's probably a dozen more that I'm missing. Bunk was great.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Bunk was overrated


There I said it.



He was still good, but being that he is a lot of people's favorite character, I was underwhelmed


There is really no sense arguing about which is the best of the first four seasons.


The first four were perfect television. The fifth was just a notch below that.

Bunk was fucking awesome.

I think he was the one who first said one the series key phrases - There you go, givin a fuck when it aint your turn to give a fuck

One half of the one of the most famous scenes, where him and Jimmy go through a crime scene figuring out everything that happened and only saying the word Fuck.

When he got fucked up at that woman's house and burned his clothes and Jimmy had to come get him... :lol: :lol:

His scene with him and Omar where he calls Omar a predatory motherfucker and is the first person to call Omar out for not being heroic, and Omar get all watery eyed and shit and realizes he's right is another one of the best scenes of the series. There's probably a dozen more that I'm missing. Bunk was great.

Yep, those 4 scenes are great.

Thats about it though. Im not saying he's bad, but he's not a top 20 character on the show (shots fired!)


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One half of the one of the most famous scenes, where him and Jimmy go through a crime scene figuring out everything that happened and only saying the word Fuck.


:lol: hands down my favorite scene of season 1

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1lElf7D-An8


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RPB done lost his damn fool mind. The Bunk, being a suit and tie motherfucker, was a top five character on the show. Most overrated is Omar. Underrated is Landsman.

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RPB done lost his damn fool mind. The Bunk, being a suit and tie motherfucker, was a top five character on the show. Most overrated is Omar. Underrated is Landsman.

:lol:

I disagree on Omar, but I understand why some would say he's overrated. He gets way more love than any other Wire character, but at the same time he is one of the best TV characters in recent memory. Best thing about him was the writing staff never giving in to temptation to overuse him.

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 Post subject: Re: The Wire
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RPB done lost his damn fool mind. The Bunk, being a suit and tie motherfucker, was a top five character on the show. Most overrated is Omar. Underrated is Landsman.

Says the guy who thinks Marlo, maybe the most important character on the show, was a detriment


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RPB done lost his damn fool mind. The Bunk, being a suit and tie motherfucker, was a top five character on the show. Most overrated is Omar. Underrated is Landsman.

Says the guy who thinks Marlo, maybe the most important character on the show, was a detriment

Important characters can be bad.

Skyler.

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RPB done lost his damn fool mind. The Bunk, being a suit and tie motherfucker, was a top five character on the show. Most overrated is Omar. Underrated is Landsman.

Says the guy who thinks Marlo, maybe the most important character on the show, was a detriment

Important characters can be bad.

Skyler.

True. But Marlo isn't Skyler. Marlo is awesome.

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 Post subject: Re: The Wire
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I may have given Bunk a raw deal. He's top 20, not in my personal top 10 though

These arent really in order of my favorite, but more the actor did an awesome job and the character was well written


The Wire Top 25

Stringer Bell
Omar
Lester
McNulty
Avon
Bunny
D'Angelo
Bubbles
Bodie
Chris
Slim Charles
Snoop
Prop Joe
Marlo
Bunk
Cutty
Micheal
Sheeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiit
Rawls
Frank Sobotka
Valchek
Herc
Kenard
Carcetti
Cheese (had to)


Also receiving votes: Everyone except Burrell who was the worst part of the show


I probably could have done a top 50. This show was just so fucking perfect


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 Post subject: Re: The Wire
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rogers park bryan wrote:
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RPB done lost his damn fool mind. The Bunk, being a suit and tie motherfucker, was a top five character on the show. Most overrated is Omar. Underrated is Landsman.

Says the guy who thinks Marlo, maybe the most important character on the show, was a detriment

Important characters can be bad.

Skyler.

True. But Marlo isn't Skyler. Marlo is awesome.

I dont wanna get too far from The Wire, but you guys think Skyler was bad? I mean she wasnt as good as Walt, Jesse, Hank, and Gus, but she did a decent job with her character.


And yes, Marlo is awesome. You could just feel the tension when Marlo was around. Like some crazy shit was always just about to happen.

Plus he's really the only one who didnt show some fear of Omar.


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Skyler was awful. She was awful in Deadwood too.


Iirc, Avon never showed fear of Marlo. He just was in prison when Marlo made his move and then misjudged Marlo after he got out and went after him.

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Skyler was awful. She was awful in Deadwood too.

Bad acting or unlikeable character?

She was certainly not awful. A show could not be that great and have someone with that big of a role be "awful"

She was good with the Ted storyline, the car wash, and she played it well when she was brought in to the crime.





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Iirc, Avon never showed fear of Marlo. He just was in prison when Marlo made his move and then misjudged Marlo after he got out and went after him.

No, I said fear of Omar.

Even Stringer and Avon seemed to be weary of him and wanted a peace treaty. Marlo just wanted the fucking battle.


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Skyler was awful. She was awful in Deadwood too.


Yeah, her storyline on Deadwood just dragged on and on. But without Skyler, we would not have been treated to this:

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Skyler was awful. She was awful in Deadwood too.

Bad acting or unlikeable character?

Both. Every time she was on screen I couldn't wait for her scene to end so it could move on to better storylines. She was like the Theon GreyJoy of Breaking Bad.

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Skyler was awful. She was awful in Deadwood too.

Bad acting or unlikeable character?

Both. Every time she was on screen I couldn't wait for her scene to end so it could move on to better storylines. She was like the Theon GreyJoy of Breaking Bad.

Well, we disagree on the bad acting. Being an unlikeable character was neccessary though. Its part of how you make a murderous meth dealer the good guy.

Marie was faaaaaaaaar worse


Skyler was annoying at times, but the character was essential and she was good with it a lot of the time.

The thing where she kinda wanted reflected pity from Walt having cancer rung very true to me. And the line I fucked Ted was unquestionably awesome.


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My guess is KI has already seen The Wire or heard enough about it over the past 10 years or so to know that it is worth seeing.

Watch 'What's Happening" first

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Skyler was awful. She was awful in Deadwood too.

Bad acting or unlikeable character?

She was certainly not awful. A show could not be that great and have someone with that big of a role be "awful"

She was good with the Ted storyline, the car wash, and she played it well when she was brought in to the crime.


I thought it was bad acting and an unlikeable character - in both shows.

I rooted for the horse.

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Skyler was awful. She was awful in Deadwood too.

Bad acting or unlikeable character?

She was certainly not awful. A show could not be that great and have someone with that big of a role be "awful"

She was good with the Ted storyline, the car wash, and she played it well when she was brought in to the crime.


I thought it was bad acting and an unlikeable character - in both shows.

I rooted for the horse.

I never watched Deadwood, but it feels like you guys are taking some hate from there and applying it to BB

Anyway, we can agree that she was one of the worst, I just think she was decent and most on that show were phenomenal


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Nah, she was a relatively minor character in Deadwood.

And I saw Breaking Bad first.

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Skyler was just an annoying character. Same with her sister. Neither were poorly acted roles.

P.S.

Breaking Bad is getting way too much love. I understand it's still fresh in people's minds but time needs to pass before it finds its true place in the television pantheon. It's a nice series with a legendary role and performance by Cranston. I never enjoyed the ensemble like I did with The Wire or The Sopranos. That's where it falls short in any discussion of best show ever. Best individual performance? Maybe. Gandolfini is right up there with Cranston.

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Just finished this tonight. Season 4 was my favorite. Season 5 got too weird.

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Also, which Cook County politician would be most similar to Clay Davis?

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