In the Talking Sauls after that particular episode Gilligan suggested that was a possibility. He pretty much said they write the show as they go so anything is possible as long as the characters end up in the places we already know they were from Breaking Bad.

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So baseball is complex because at different times the pitcher and batter go out of their way to waste time in order to throw off someone's rhythm? Ok.


I can come up with examples of this in every other sport. If that's your reasoning as to why baseball is more complex than other team sports I'm not impressed and definitely not convinced.

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But you really can't cite examples of it in every other sport unless we start discussing sumo. The fact that you're not actually fully comprehending all of these subtle rituals is evidence of their complexity. Shaw yelling "burrito!" doesn't count.

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lol, what complexities am I not understanding? The only evidence you've put out there is that the batter and pitcher try and throw each other off their rhythm. Hardly something unique to baseball. In my sport of choice teams are trying to disrupt the other team's rhythm, focus, momentum all the time, how is that any different? Well I guess one difference is that in hockey players have to make those decisions in a split second during actual game action whereas in baseball the players get downtime every 5 seconds to decide what they are do. That hardly supports your argument that baseball is the most complex.

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like BRick said, recording jimmy won't be admissible. but i don't think that's why chuck recorded him. he wanted to prove to everyone that he was right. that's all. he can't do anything to jimmy without physical evidence that proves anything. i think the idea is to expose him to the people that he is still close to, so that he is alone, his name synonymous with lying and cheating, and that's why he changes his name. although, his face is out there too. i suppose time passes between jimmy mcgill and saul goodman.

i thought the mike sequence was extremely well done. very intense, even though knowing well enough what nacho's doing and that mike gets out OK. still, well shot.

both finales have been a bit disappointing, and while the last one ended a bit contrived, this one just ends a bit flat because we saw that coming a mile away.

the breakdown in front of their mother was significant, i think, to show that there is a soul inside chuck that seems to be almost completely missing in jimmy. but it's interesting that his breakdown in front of jimmy is a work, while his breakdown in front of his mother is completely sincere. and, i noted that she is unconscious when he breaks down like that. i don't know why, it just struck me.

so all in all, i really love this show even though the finales have been a bit lacking. i hope the series finale packs enough of a wallop. the next season has to be the last.

Holy shit. I missed the open. My DVR began with Jimmy walking up to Chuck sitting in the hallway


Thats why i asked what she said, i thought it was a mystery theyd show later

Shakes, you are right. Every sport has this. I can't think of a sport that doesn't. JORR, I think you are a great guy, love your opinions, but maybe you are over-romanticizing baseball in this respect.

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I don't believe that's true. What passes for "plays" in hockey, basketball, and soccer usually comes down to "get the ball to the best guy". Football is more complex than that, but still nothing like baseball. That's why if you flip through an NFL Sunday every game looks pretty much the same. In every baseball game you'll see something you've never seen before.

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But if you're Jimmy, don't you simply say, "Yeah, of course I told him that. I thought it would make him feel better. He's my brother. The guy was covering his house in tinfoil. He was distraught and quitting his law firm. So I told him what he wanted to hear. Think of how crazy that is. I had this elaborate plot to change documents or a guy in a tinfoil hat transposed two numbers in the lantern light. Which is more likely? Now I have to go back and allow the doctor to commit him like she wanted to."

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Yea but at the end he did say "besides its my word against yours"
That stomps any doubt he was joking around

Jimmy really doesnt get it. He did the right thing by calling 911 for his bro, but he didnt have to admit to the crime. His bro couldnt do law anyway. The guy really was batshit. Just double down and deny the charge. But i think jimmy did it more for his own ego, because it was watergate dwarfing shit he pulled off and he wanted to rub it in chucks face.

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i don't think he can talk his way out of this, because it was pretty sleazy and probably the sleaziest thing that anyone besides chuck has seen him do. while chuck has a weird mental illness, jimmy's mental illness is going to look a lot more destructive. and while the recording means nothing in a court of law, it'll mean everything in the court of public opinion...or, everyone jimmy knows around him. and could be used against him elsewhere too i guess.

That's an interesting take, Ike. Very Walter White-esque.

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well, he admitted that he did it for kim. he definitely wanted to get back at chuck, and went through probably the greatest lengths he has to accomplish it.

It would be totally unlike Jimmy to try to rub it in Chuck's face.

Would it be too corny to think that there is nothing on the tape when Chuck tries to play it back?
Dead batteries, bad mic, technical difficulty, whatever?

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Interesting but the fact that he didnt do it until Chuck went crazy...er makes me think otherwise.



I feel like Kim is the only one Jimmy cares about and she already knows what he did.

No, that would be fine for Three's Company or the Brady Bunch.

My DVR did the same thing.
I stopped and went to Xfinity on demand to watch it.

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WTF?

Wanna sue them?

make sure you get the address right.

It kind of annoyed me this season just how much garbage Jimmy took from Chuck.

I would have been done with him a long time ago. Chuck is a horrible brother for being such an obstructionist to anything Jimmy wants to do in his life.

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How dare you use the Brady Bunch in the same sentence as the classic Three's Company?
Mr. Roper is a comedy god!

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True, but I don't think he's exactly Jimmy anymore. He's not quite Saul yet, but he's well on the way. And you can't imagine early Walter White in his chem lab wanting people to give him credit for cooking meth, but once he became Heisenberg he wanted people to know.

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I loved that scene. Chuck being so sure that he was right and the people who are buying the place and have been there several times were wrong is perfect for his character.

Yea, Chuck is a bad guy.

But Jimmy feels sorry for him. I wonder if Jimmy had a hand in whatever made Chuck go electric crazy?
That would explain it.

Because yea, after finding out he told Howard not to hire him way back, that would have been it for me.

Jimmy doesn't even know that Chuck kept it a secret that their mother called out for Jimmy on her death bed.
He doesn't know that Chuck told Kim that Jimmy's larceny caused their father to lose the store that he loved so much.
Chuck has screwed Jimmy over behind his back in addition to what Jimmy is aware of.
By the way, do you think Jimmy really screwed up his dad's business or was Chuck just hurting Jimmy by telling a phony story to Kim?

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No way. Its gonna end up that money paid for Chucks law school or something


Although that would make Chuck 100% the bad guy and Gilligan loves to keep people half loveable and half hateable so that might be over the top

Ok, I just learned that JORR doesn't understand a helluva lot of sports.

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Funny you say that cause on Talking Saul, Jonathan Banks (Mike) turned to Gilligan and basically said the same thing. Sounded like he was annoyed as well that Jimmy and Chuck hadn't written each other off yet. Said that family is family, but at some point you have to cut someone out of your life if they are causing you nothing but pain and grief. It was like he was trying to give Gilligan a push to advance the story a bit.

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He doesnt want to push out the best actor on the show (Odenkirk and Banks are both great but McKean is better)