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 Post subject: Re: Another Shitty Draft
PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 9:24 pm 
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The Bears haven't done anything wrong, and they're not going to do anything wrong.

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 Post subject: Re: Another Shitty Draft
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 Post subject: Re: Another Shitty Draft
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I'm literally shocked at this turn of events. I'm so distraught.

I might have to make a video with Roger Goodell sitting across from me reading the Bears pick.

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 Post subject: Re: Another Shitty Draft
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This guy only had 4.5 sacks last year. :shock:

Isn't that what begs the classic line... Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane.

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 Post subject: Re: Another Shitty Draft
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So wait... what the... I mean why would you... cause like it makes no sense... hang on thats just not...

What the hell happened?

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So wait... what the... I mean why would you... cause like it makes no sense... hang on thats just not...

What the hell happened?


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Truth be told, I have no idea. Just going by your reactions and others. I don't know anything about this college shit. If he's good I'll make fun of all you people. If he's bad, I'll make fun of Pace. Either way, I win. Except I also lose cuz the Bears will be bad.


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A project 24 year old? Shea 2.0. ?


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A project 24 year old? Shea 2.0. ?

Nah I don't think you can call him Shea. Floyd was at least in the conversation by most experts to be taken in that general timeframe of the draft.

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Skinny speed rusher who is immediately neutralized when engaged by a lineman. Didn't we just get rid of a buster like that

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Bust.

Should have traded down instead they give up a 4th.

Pace is an idiot.


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I wish dewskie was here to talk me off the ledge on this. I want to believe

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 Post subject: Re: Another Shitty Draft
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Skinny speed rusher who is immediately neutralized when engaged by a lineman. Didn't we just get rid of a buster like that

That's what worries me. I don't know how much stock to put in Greg Gabriel, but I guffawed when I read this:

Greg Gabriel’s take: “A tall, long and lean player who is used a variety of ways. Lines up inside and outside, up and down. A very good athlete with speed and is very good in space. Has his problems near the line of scrimmage. Lacks top strength and bulk and can get overpowered. Has to make plays with his speed and quickness. That won’t happen at the next level. Will get drafted high because of his athleticism, but I feel unless used properly he will struggle in the NFL. Has to be picked by the right team.”

I hope he's wrong, because we've all seen that story before.

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 Post subject: Re: Another Shitty Draft
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Skinny speed rusher who is immediately neutralized when engaged by a lineman. Didn't we just get rid of a buster like that

That's what worries me. I don't know how much stock to put in Greg Gabriel, but I guffawed when I read this:

Greg Gabriel’s take: “A tall, long and lean player who is used a variety of ways. Lines up inside and outside, up and down. A very good athlete with speed and is very good in space. Has his problems near the line of scrimmage. Lacks top strength and bulk and can get overpowered. Has to make plays with his speed and quickness. That won’t happen at the next level. Will get drafted high because of his athleticism, but I feel unless used properly he will struggle in the NFL. Has to be picked by the right team.”

I hope he's wrong, because we've all seen that story before.

Oh for fuck sake

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 Post subject: Re: Another Shitty Draft
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The two major knocks on Floyd are weight and durability. Has lean bone structure with twig limbs, thin torso and scouts have concerns about how much weight he can add - looks like A.J. Green in his Georgia uniform, which isn't a positive comparison for a pass rusher. Below-average functional strength.

Struggles to generate movement at the point of attack or convert speed to power. Too easily controlled on the edges. Can be eliminated by blockers when he doesn't effectively use his length.

COMPARES TO: Barkevious Mingo, Cleveland Browns - Neither players is known for ideal power features. Floyd and Mingo have lean athleticism and get-off quickness to threaten the edge and keep blockers guessing.

IN OUR VIEW: A highly intriguing size-length-athleticism prospect, Floyd can stab, dip and flatten around the edge, maintaining his balance without losing speed to the pocket. He is deadly in space, but Floyd's lack of functional strength and growth potential are glaring concerns. One of the best athletes in this draft class, his is not one of the best football players and would need to land in a scheme that protects him in a niche role.


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Here's what appears to be every play of his college career.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z4n5CtfJ0M

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 Post subject: Re: Another Shitty Draft
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Floyd will play. He will probably be one of your better D guys eventually.

That's not who they should have picked though.

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 Post subject: Re: Another Shitty Draft
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Todd McShay said the Giants were going to draft Floyd at 10.

Makes me feel a little better that Pace knew that. Not talking about the logic in the pick. Could be bad. But it was his guy and he knew he had to trade up to get his guy. It wasn't just a guess that the Giants would take him. Which is what I thought it might have been. At least Pace has good intel.


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 Post subject: Re: Another Shitty Draft
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Peoria Matt wrote:
would need to land in a scheme that protects him in a niche role.


Trading into the top 10 to take a role player is a bad look.

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You just know a team like the steelers will sit back and let a value like tunsil fall to them. Not the Bears. We have to be stupidly aggressive

This is my favorite annual post from you.

Seriously has to be the third time you've expressed that (all appropriate too)


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Paxson Lynch also seemed ripe for the taking with a trade up. He was the last quarterback available that wasn't a project.

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 Post subject: Re: Another Shitty Draft
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Wannstedt was just on M&H. He said he did a ton of Georgia football and this kid is good. Compared the height and weight issue to same thing Jason Taylor went through. Also, he apparently went through a couple of defensive coordinators there and they moved him all over the place even slot and middle linebacker. So hopefully Bears are right and get what they thought they drafted. Until we see him play there is not a lot of anything bitching and moaning is going to do in my mind.

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Wannstedt was just on M&H. He said he did a ton of Georgia football and this kid is good. Compared the height and weight issue to same thing Jason Taylor went through. Also, he apparently went through a couple of defensive coordinators there and they moved him all over the place even slot and middle linebacker. So hopefully Bears are right and get what they thought they drafted. Until we see him play there is not a lot of anything bitching and moaning is going to do in my mind.


You have to remember that Wannstedt was a god awful talent evaluator.

His words did make me more hopeful.

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Aaron Maybin, Dion Jordan, Barkevious Mingo, Randy Gregory,

Don't worry this guy is totally different.


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I was OK with it until I found out the guy was 24.

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Peoria Matt wrote:
would need to land in a scheme that protects him in a niche role.


Trading into the top 10 to take a role player is a bad look.


I guess the Bears are good enough to make a 1st round pick on the biggest boom or bust player in the 1st round.


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I trust Fangio and you can't coach his speed/height. They've earned the benefit of the doubt from me on this one.

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I get the reasons behind the angst with the pick, but the requisite meatballishness that accompanies a lot of it is kinda putting Jets fans to shame.

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