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PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 7:17 pm 
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STFU.. HCOY is meaningless, Dick Jauron won it one year.. Nagy won that because of the Defense ( which he has fuckall to do with)

Nobody had Watson behind (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky except Pace.

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Even as dire as our QB situation is, I just don't see any of those guys being worth the #3 pick.


This didn't age well.

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Draft the best football player on the board at that time. If that is a QB great, but if it is not then please do not reach for a QB.

You have to overdraft for a qb. We can't wait for the number 1 pick and Andrew Luck. That happens once a decade.

Virtually every team we strive to be has one position player that is great to hall of fame great. When you have the third pick in the draft you don't pass on a qb when you desperately need one.

I can't believe we have to watch Green Bay have two hall of fame quarterbacks and people want the guy who is a national name because he is a great kick returner.


Happened twice in the same draft.

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With the Bears luck they will take a QB at 3 that will be a huge bust while the other top 10 picks will be Hall of Famers


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With the Bears luck they will take a QB at 3 that will be a huge bust while the other top 10 picks will be Hall of Famers

Exactly. This is our lot as Bears fans.


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Andrew Luck... :lol:

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Andrew Luck... :lol:

Do you and Hoffy not get the point about Andrew Luck?

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STFU.. HCOY is meaningless, Dick Jauron won it one year.. Nagy won that because of the Defense ( which he has fuckall to do with)

Nobody had Watson behind (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky except Pace.


Lets see. Nagy is 15-6 the last two seasons. You want to fire him. A lot of people had (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky the first qb to be drafted that year. You are wrong there also. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky had a good year last season. YOu want him gone also. Probably want Pace gone also.

Lets see, your answer to everything it appears is to fire everyone. That sure is mature thinking, eh? :roll: :roll: :roll:

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STFU.. HCOY is meaningless, Dick Jauron won it one year.. Nagy won that because of the Defense ( which he has fuckall to do with)

Nobody had Watson behind (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky except Pace.


Lets see. Nagy is 15-6 the last two seasons. You want to fire him. A lot of people had (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky the first qb to be drafted that year. You are wrong there also. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky had a good year last season. YOu want him gone also. Probably want Pace gone also.

Lets see, your answer to everything it appears is to fire everyone. That sure is mature thinking, eh? :roll: :roll: :roll:

Yes, people who are bad at their jobs should be fired. 312 is very wise.


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 Post subject: Re: With the #3 Pick...
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Most GM's only get to last 2 quarterback picks. A GM that screws up the QB pick twice in one offseason deserves to have an extremely short leash.

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Have to assess the full body of work though. I'm not sure how many players on d are Pace's draft picks but that unit is obviously a big deal. The Mack trade has also paid off. He gets a D on offense though, so perhaps C overall if he's at an A+ on defense.

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Body of work doesn't really mean much if you don't have a QB.

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Body of work doesn't really mean much if you don't have a QB.


Idk, man. He swung and whiffed badly. Still is responsible for assembling a Superbowl d .. probably won't be able to test that d out in an actual Superbowl though because of the offense.

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312player wrote:
STFU.. HCOY is meaningless, Dick Jauron won it one year.. Nagy won that because of the Defense ( which he has fuckall to do with)

Nobody had Watson behind (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky except Pace.


Even you did. You literally called him the best quarterback in the draft. You also thought that it was a terrible class like many other people.

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Nas wrote:
312player wrote:
STFU.. HCOY is meaningless, Dick Jauron won it one year.. Nagy won that because of the Defense ( which he has fuckall to do with)

Nobody had Watson behind (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky except Pace.


Even you did. You literally called him the best quarterback in the draft. You also thought that it was a terrible class like many other people.

Yup. Most of the arguements were that it was dumb to get any of them.

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Nas wrote:
312player wrote:
STFU.. HCOY is meaningless, Dick Jauron won it one year.. Nagy won that because of the Defense ( which he has fuckall to do with)

Nobody had Watson behind (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky except Pace.


Even you did. You literally called him the best quarterback in the draft. You also thought that it was a terrible class like many other people.

Yup. Most of the arguements were that it was dumb to get any of them.


And trade up to do it


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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312player wrote:
STFU.. HCOY is meaningless, Dick Jauron won it one year.. Nagy won that because of the Defense ( which he has fuckall to do with)

Nobody had Watson behind (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky except Pace.


Even you did. You literally called him the best quarterback in the draft. You also thought that it was a terrible class like many other people.

Yup. Most of the arguements were that it was dumb to get any of them.


That is my recollection as well.

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STFU.. HCOY is meaningless, Dick Jauron won it one year.. Nagy won that because of the Defense ( which he has fuckall to do with)

Nobody had Watson behind (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky except Pace.

I agree that HCOY is pretty useless, but I'd argue Dick Jauron earned it the year he won it. He had some really crappy rosters handed to him.....those teams were bad, yet they always played hard and made competitive games.

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If the Bears take that scrub @ 3, it will be the worst QB pick at 3 since Akili Smith.



Interesting


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I'd take Watson in the second, I'm cool with waiting til next year when the QB class is much better and grabbing a legit defensive star with the 3rd overall pick.



Unfortunately Watson was available in the second



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I'd take Watson in the second, I'm cool with waiting til next year when the QB class is much better and grabbing a legit defensive star with the 3rd overall pick.



Unfortunately Watson was available in the second



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Yeah, but Bears fans are stupid.
Best post in this thread.

And yes, I'm part of the stupidity.

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If the Bears take that scrub @ 3, it will be the worst QB pick at 3 since Akili Smith.



Interesting


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I've already bumped your thoughts where you call him the best quarterback in the draft and state that you would not draft Mahomes until the 3rd round or any quarterback until the 2nd. I had no opinion because I'm not a college football guy. Let's not try to rewrite history though. Walt got it right.

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Man oh man, DeShone Kizer really pulled the wool over everyone's eyes back then.

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Man oh man, DeShone Kizer really pulled the wool over everyone's eyes back then.


I have to wear this one.

Maybe Brian Kelly knows what he is talking about, although he has ruined just about every QB who has walked through his doors. Book and Kizer both looked better with less of his coaching.

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Kizer is under Gruden's tutelage now.

Expect...something.

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