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I mean he's only 76th all time in FG%, but that was a time before there were domes everywhere and K balls. Plus, my friends, he lead the league in scoring in a certain season in which Super Bowl Super Bears.


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He's maybe a Top 10 kicker in Bears' history. If you don't count punters as kickers.

Gould and Blanda are definitely ahead of him, adjusting for era.

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Hell no.

Short kickoffs, too

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When I was a kid, I remember Nick Lowery, Morten Andersen, and Gary Anderson being the top three all-time in FG%. Now they've all been pushed down to around 50th.

Mort is still my fav though...the single bar facemask was classic.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:24 pm 
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Jaw Breaker wrote:
When I was a kid, I remember Nick Lowery, Morten Andersen, and Gary Anderson being the top three all-time in FG%. Now they've all been pushed down to around 50th.

Mort is still my fav though...the single bar facemask was classic.


Yeah, we've had this discussion before. I can't believe the modern guys are that much better even though all numbers suggest they are.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:29 pm 
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NCAA? Absolutely.

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Definitely not top 10 NBA.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Jaw Breaker wrote:
When I was a kid, I remember Nick Lowery, Morten Andersen, and Gary Anderson being the top three all-time in FG%. Now they've all been pushed down to around 50th.

Mort is still my fav though...the single bar facemask was classic.


Yeah, we've had this discussion before. I can't believe the modern guys are that much better even though all numbers suggest they are.

It's not really that hard to believe. It's only in the past couple decades or so that its had emphasis placed on it as something a team should invest it. Also, in line with that, the data and training techniques and shit like that is still getting optimized and utilized. It's not that Justin Tucker just happens to be the most naturally gifted kicker of all time.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:48 am 
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FF is correct. The kicking game has totally changed. A 50yd FG was like 3 miles back in the day. Now, you better go about 70% from 50 to keep a job.

That said, given that Butler kicked for all those years in Soldier Field, on that awful turf at times as well, he was probably a lot better than his numbers show and we give him credit for.

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FavreFan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Jaw Breaker wrote:
When I was a kid, I remember Nick Lowery, Morten Andersen, and Gary Anderson being the top three all-time in FG%. Now they've all been pushed down to around 50th.

Mort is still my fav though...the single bar facemask was classic.


Yeah, we've had this discussion before. I can't believe the modern guys are that much better even though all numbers suggest they are.

It's not really that hard to believe. It's only in the past couple decades or so that its had emphasis placed on it as something a team should invest it. Also, in line with that, the data and training techniques and shit like that is still getting optimized and utilized. It's not that Justin Tucker just happens to be the most naturally gifted kicker of all time.

Yeah, I'm surprised to see JORR bring it up. I thought I made a pretty convincing argument last time. :lol:

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