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 Post subject: Re: Mark Sanchez
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:15 pm 
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what is the point of this signing? camp arm with minimal guarenteed?


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what is the point of this signing? camp arm with minimal guarenteed?

Probably. I'm not saying this is the case but it would be hilarious if they think they don't need a QB in the top three rounds at worst here in the draft.

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To me this indicates they have a QB high on their draft priority list. Internally they may still prefer Shaw to Sanchez as the third stringer.


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I had been thinking about this and just listened to ZZ with M&H and they seem to also think the same as I do. I think this signing means nothing really. Sanchez having been around a lot of teams may be considered good to have around to influence younder QBs and maybe even Glennon. The thought is he might not have the best talent but may have a good head on his shoulders, attitude, work habits etc.

Even with all that it was pointed out that last year the Broncos did the same thing with him and their QBs. In the end he didn't make the team as he was deemed unnecessary. Bottom line the consensus and mine is the Bears will draft a QB to go along with what they got and Sanchez may not even make the team. There weren't any guarantees.

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 Post subject: Re: Mark Sanchez
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Btw I don't really understand what's so outrageous about the buttfumble. How this plays has lived on in pop cultur like few ever have befuddles me. He ran into his own guy and fumbled...As a veteran observer of Bears football I have seen it happen before I feel.


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 Post subject: Re: Mark Sanchez
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Btw I don't really understand what's so outrageous about the buttfumble. How this plays has lived on in pop cultur like few ever have befuddles me. He ran into his own guy and fumbled...As a veteran observer of Bears football I have seen it happen before I feel.


Today's culture is all I got for that.

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 Post subject: Re: Mark Sanchez
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To me this indicates they have a QB high on their draft priority list. Internally they may still prefer Shaw to Sanchez as the third stringer.

How do you figure that it means they have a QB high on their list from this signing?

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 Post subject: Re: Mark Sanchez
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This fucking team.

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Btw I don't really understand what's so outrageous about the buttfumble. How this plays has lived on in pop cultur like few ever have befuddles me. He ran into his own guy and fumbled...As a veteran observer of Bears football I have seen it happen before I feel.


it is the perfect encapsulation of the new york jets football team and organization. that one play... it's perfect. snap... play is immediately broken, sanchez tries to run forward only to run literally in to the butt of his own player.. he fumbles.. ball is returned for a touchdown by the patriots... the same patriots who happen to be the gold standard for NFL football organizations (based on winning at least).... perfection. i still laugh when i see it. if that play were scripted in an adam sandler football movie it would be criticized for being impossibly fake and never would happen


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 Post subject: Re: Mark Sanchez
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While you don't have the can't miss #1 franchise QB in this draft, I don think this QB draft is better than last year. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is much better prospect than Wentz.
I really think Mahommes could be stud, if you mold him right. If they pass on a QB early in this draft, fuck them!


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 Post subject: Re: Mark Sanchez
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Sanchez is the older,slower version of Jay Cutler. I hope he doesn't make it in the regular season. I think he is just insurance in case something happens to the #1 guy in preseason.

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Sanchez is the older,slower version of Jay Cutler. I hope he doesn't make it in the regular season. I think he is just insurance in case something happens to the #1 guy in preseason.


Cutler is older than buttfumble. Has a far better arm. Is an all around better QB.

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contract is 2 mil per year with incentives it could hit 3... worst yet, it's $1M in guaranteed money so they must be planning on him being on the roster...

Nothing like bidding against yourself for QB talent.

so much for them being "high on" conor shaw... because that only leaves 1 QB spot available for either Shaw or for a rookie QB.... unless their plan is to draft a 6-7th round rookie qb and stash him on practice squad....


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contract is 2 mil per year with incentives it could hit 3... worst yet, it's $1M in guaranteed money so they must be planning on him being on the roster...

Nothing like bidding against yourself for QB talent.

so much for them being "high on" conor shaw... because that only leaves 1 QB spot available for either Shaw or for a rookie QB.... unless their plan is to draft a 6-7th round rookie qb and stash him on practice squad....


Unless they do not care about eating $1M this is a bad piece of news.

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I thought that you can't "stash" anyone on the Practice Squad. They are free to join any team that wants them unless that has changed.

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I thought that you can't "stash" anyone on the Practice Squad. They are free to join any team that wants them unless that has changed.


Right they would have to clear waivers first.

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So they are bringing in a QB to help the starter who basically has a front loaded 1 year deal.


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As long as it doesn't stop them from drafting a QB this year, I don't care. If asshole Fox decides he wants to start his vet over Glennon or a rookie.... now I have a problem.

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The move is just dumb, I wouldn't want buttfumble on my roster for free. I wouldn't want my young guys or Glennon learning anything from that turd.

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Wait this is real? They signed Mark Sanchez? :lol:

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312player wrote:
The move is just dumb, I wouldn't want buttfumble on my roster for free. I wouldn't want my young guys or Glennon learning anything from that turd.


I have watched him play and really am surprised he still is in the league.
The Bears would have been better off signing Jeff Garcia.

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The move is just dumb, I wouldn't want buttfumble on my roster for free. I wouldn't want my young guys or Glennon learning anything from that turd.


I have watched him play and really am surprised he still is in the league.
The Bears would have been better off signing Jeff Garcia.



Yup, he's Jimmy Clausen or Matt Leinart, he don't belong in the league, never did.

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 Post subject: Re: Mark Sanchez
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jimmypasta wrote:
312player wrote:
The move is just dumb, I wouldn't want buttfumble on my roster for free. I wouldn't want my young guys or Glennon learning anything from that turd.


I have watched him play and really am surprised he still is in the league.
The Bears would have been better off signing Jeff Garcia.



Yup, he's Jimmy Clausen or Matt Leinart, he don't belong in the league, never did.


He's going to be the backup or 3rd string. No reason to be outraged unless management comes out and says he's competing for a starting role.

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I don't think anybody is outraged, just befuddled. The guy absolutely blows, go with an unknown like Shaw and Takes over a known bum.

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They like Connor Shaw enough to resign him after a broken leg. Then instead of giving him the backup role (which I will assume Fox wanted nothing to do with), they sign Sanchez. How will they ever find out anything about Shaw if Fox is given the option to play Sanchez over Shaw. I'm not saying that Shaw is a franchise QB but it's very hard to judge when he isn't on the field. Sanchez is a known commodity. He sucks. He should not even be in the backup role.


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Wait this is real? They signed Mark Sanchez? :lol:

:lol:

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I really don't see this as a big deal. But I do think it means that they're leaning towards Kizer at 3 as opposed to trading up from 35 to 25-29 to get the 4th QB taken, somebody like Mahomes.

So then there are three scenarios:

Scenario 1: Kizer goes in the top 2, and they end up going defense at #3
Outcome for Sanchez: #3 QB behind Glennon and Cook, but he might dress as #2 for the first 5-6 weeks as Cook's development progresses
Impact on fans: Would you rather have Jimmy Clauson again?

Scenario 2: They draft Kizer at #3, but Glennon gets hurt in the pre-season
Outcome for Sanchez: He gets to start a few games until Kizer can play without getting himself killed
Impact on fans: It's going to suck, but having your starting QB get injured in the pre-season always sucks.

Scenario 3: They draft Kizer at #3, and everybody stays healthy
Outcome for Sanchez: He gets a few meals at Gibson's and some lovely parting gifts after the 4th exhibition game
Impact on fans: No different than picking up the dumbass who Lovie used to always have in camp

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More playoff wins and playoff games than Cutler.


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Chet, I disagree. Glennon's signing, to me, pretty much signaled they are not going with a QB at 3.


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Chet, I disagree. Glennon's signing, to me, pretty much signaled they are not going with a QB at 3.

I think it signals that they don't think Kizer will make it to #3, so they need an option in case it doesn't happen.

If Kizer is there at 3, Glennon starts for a while and then when he eventually sucks he moves to a backup role or gets traded to a team desperate for a human at QB.

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