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deadspin post with anonymous quotes from league execs

http://deadspin.com/the-bears-mitch-tru ... 1794796075
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“We don’t know what the hell they were doing,” said an executive from one team that is routinely in the postseason. “It’s all anyone is talking about. It’s really bad between Pace and Fox. Fox is fuming about being left in the dark on the trade (for (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky). I don’t know anyone who likes their draft. From the first pick on, we can’t figure out what they were doing. Go back and look at how many small-school kids they took. People around the league are shocked. It’s really bad between Pace and Fox.

An executive from another team noted: “Either the Bears know something no one else in the league knows, or that draft just got a lot of people fired only they don’t know it yet.”


49er's new brass confused as to what the bears are doing

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/05/01/san- ... peter-king

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The Bears and Niners had an understanding that if Chicago’s man was still on the board after Cleveland picked (Chicago GM Ryan Pace wouldn’t tell Lynch who Player X was; the Niners figured it was Thomas), the Bears would give at least two third-round picks to move from three to two.

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“See if we can get one last thing with Chicago,” Lynch said to Marathe.

Marathe called the Bears. “To try to solidify this now,” Marathe said to Pace, “we’re gonna need a little bit more to finish. It wouldn’t have to be much. Like, your four. So let’s say your third, 67 overall, this year, your three next year, and your four this year, 111 overall … I’m not gonna string you along … No … I will do it quickly. Let me get with John and Kyle and I’ll call you right back.”

The Bears agreed. They’d give two third-round picks and a fourth-rounder to move up one spot.

“Man, who do they want?” Lynch said. “Gotta be Solomon, right?”

“Call me crazy,” Marathe said. “But I think it’s (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky.”

“Then why’d they go get Glennon?” Lynch said.



Here's Rich Campbell's take on the fact that the bears INVITED Glennon to their official draft party only to end up drafting his replacement.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/co ... olumn.html

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Mike Glennon was, of all places, at Soldier Field on Thursday night when the Bears changed the course of franchise history and sent shockwaves through the NFL draft. The team had asked its starting quarterback to attend the Miller Lite Bears draft party on the club level.

So much for being a guest of honor, huh?

Because Glennon showed up, we can assume the Bears' invitation didn't include the part about trading up to draft North Carolina quarterback Mitch (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky with the No. 2 pick.

Hey, Mike, can you make it out to Soldier Field for this thing Thursday? We need you to sign a few autographs and shake a few hands after we crush your hopes and make you a lame-duck starter before you take your first practice rep. Cool?




what a shitstorm, all we are missing now in this comedy of errors is a Ryan Pace twitter account posting "fake news, sad!" It's now public knowledge that Ryan Pace couldn't trust John Fox with his plan to get (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky (why else would you withhold that plan from your coach?)


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On Saturday Adam Hoge was very adamant that there is no evidence Pace got fleeced in the deal to move up to #2. He also said that he would know if there were because he's a reporter.

So, you know... :roll:


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On Saturday Adam Hoge was very adamant that there is no evidence Pace got fleeced in the deal to move up to #2. He also said that he would know if there were because he's a reporter.

So, you know... :roll:


Was that Saturday night? I heard that and ZZ also said the defense will be much improved mainly because Goldman is back and no one can run on him.

I like Goldman but that's a lot of confidence.

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Haven't King and Rappaport said there was another call for the #2 pick?

Either way it does not matter. This is what we got.

Pace has put his entire career on the line for this QB.

I do not give a flying fuck what Glennon thinks or feels. You got 18 million dollars. Stop being mad and show everyone that you deserve to be QB1

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
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On Saturday Adam Hoge was very adamant that there is no evidence Pace got fleeced in the deal to move up to #2. He also said that he would know if there were because he's a reporter.

So, you know... :roll:


Was that Saturday night? I heard that and ZZ also said the defense will be much improved mainly because Goldman is back and no one can run on him.

I like Goldman but that's a lot of confidence.


Why would you pay attention to ZZ's hopelessly biased analysis in the first place?

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On Saturday Adam Hoge was very adamant that there is no evidence Pace got fleeced in the deal to move up to #2. He also said that he would know if there were because he's a reporter.

So, you know... :roll:


Was that Saturday night? I heard that and ZZ also said the defense will be much improved mainly because Goldman is back and no one can run on him.

I like Goldman but that's a lot of confidence.


Why would you pay attention to ZZ's hopelessly biased analysis in the first place?


I was in the car in the middle of nowhere at 10pm on a Saturday night. What else is on?

I was wondering why he was bothering to call in to the Chris Emma and Greg Gabriel show at that hour.

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Haven't King and Rappaport said there was another call for the #2 pick?

Either way it does not matter. This is what we got.

Pace has put his entire career on the line for this QB.

I do not give a flying fuck what Glennon thinks or feels. You got 18 million dollars. Stop being mad and show everyone that you deserve to be QB1


That's what people say, but it's entirely possible the 49ers were spreading such a rumor to sucker Pace into bidding against himself.

Whatever the case, this is the strangest draft I've witnessed as a Bears fan.

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The Bears simply had to have Glennon at their draft party or otherwise other teams may have suspected they wanted a quarterback and they wouldn't have gotten such a great deal for the second pick. Ryan Pace is playing 4-dimensional chess.


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There does seem like so odd bias towards the Bears. Mully has been defending them since the day after the 1st round. He makes arguments that are not even coherent.


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Whatever the case, this is the strangest draft I've witnessed as a Bears fan.

Very true.

And if (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is a franchise QB none of it will matter.

If he is a bust, it will become another nail in the coffin of this franchise over the last 30 years.

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There does seem like so odd bias towards the Bears. Mully has been defending them since the day after the 1st round. He makes arguments that are not even coherent.


Mully quickly distanced himself from his assertion 3 weeks ago that kizer is the right pick at 3


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There does seem like so odd bias towards the Bears. Mully has been defending them since the day after the 1st round. He makes arguments that are not even coherent.




Yeah, Mulligan has been tying himself in knots trying to justify this buffoonery.

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RFDC wrote:
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Whatever the case, this is the strangest draft I've witnessed as a Bears fan.

Very true.

And if (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is a franchise QB none of it will matter.

If he is a bust, it will become another nail in the coffin of this franchise over the last 30 years.




Depends on what your definition of a " franchise QB" is. Most of you guys said Cutler was a franchise QB.

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It really is sort of embarrassing how big a laughingstock this team has become since 2010 or so.

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It really is sort of embarrassing how big a laughingstock this team has become since 2010 or so.

Goes back farther than that....at least to the McGinnis fiasco.

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It really is sort of embarrassing how big a laughingstock this team has become since 2010 or so.

Goes back farther than that....at least to the McGinnis fiasco.

They made the Super Bowl in 2006 and the NFC Championship game in 2010. Lovie kept the franchise more than respectable. Since he was fired they've become one of the 3-4 worst teams and worst-run teams in all of football.

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Tad Queasy wrote:
On Saturday Adam Hoge was very adamant that there is no evidence Pace got fleeced in the deal to move up to #2. He also said that he would know if there were because he's a reporter.

So, you know... :roll:

Adam Hoge is also the guy who always stood up for Cutler. He does that contrarian shtick very terribly.

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It really is sort of embarrassing how big a laughingstock this team has become since 2010 or so.

Goes back farther than that....at least to the McGinnis fiasco.

They made the Super Bowl in 2006 and the NFC Championship game in 2010. Lovie kept the franchise more than respectable. Since he was fired they've become one of the 3-4 worst teams and worst-run teams in all of football.

True. So Lovie was he parenthesis in their laughingstock status.

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It doesn't get any worse than this. Other teams are making fun of us to the press, and the other team is publicizing how they fleeced us.

Even the 1970 Marshall team thinks we can't go any lower.

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It doesn't get any worse than this. Other teams are making fun of us to the press, and the other team is publicizing how they fleeced us.

Even the 1970 Marshall team thinks we can't go any lower.

Too soon man

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It doesn't get any worse than this. Other teams are making fun of us to the press, and the other team is publicizing how they fleeced us.

Even the 1970 Marshall team thinks we can't go any lower.


Ran into some people talking about the draft so I joined in. When I told them I'm from Chicago they immediately started laughing. :shock:

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If Trubiski is good, none of this matters. If he sucks, Pace could have stood firm at #3, drafted him, and still would have been fired. It's an interesting story, but at the end of the day they gave up some middle round picks. It's not even as bad as Minnesotta giving up a 1st for Bradford.


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When you break down Glennon's contract(the guaranteed money), he really is on a 1 year "prove it" deal. I thought it was common knowledge there was a high probability of the Bears drafting a quarterback in the 1st three rounds this year? Would Glennon have been less shocked/upset if they took Kizer in the 2nd round?


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When you break down Glennon's contract(the guaranteed money), he really is on a 1 year "prove it" deal. I thought it was common knowledge there was a high probability of the Bears drafting a quarterback in the 1st three rounds this year? Would Glennon have been less shocked/upset if they took Kizer in the 2nd round?


But at that point why not keep Cutler at $12m as a backup (whom I despise, but with his myriad faults is better than Glennon)? Then just start (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky this year, as there is almost no chance the Bears make the playoffs anyway.

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I disagree that Cutler is better than Glennon(now), especially when you consider "availability"


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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Tad Queasy wrote:
On Saturday Adam Hoge was very adamant that there is no evidence Pace got fleeced in the deal to move up to #2. He also said that he would know if there were because he's a reporter.

So, you know... :roll:


Was that Saturday night? I heard that and ZZ also said the defense will be much improved mainly because Goldman is back and no one can run on him.

I like Goldman but that's a lot of confidence.


It was Saturday, around 5:00 or so.

Caller Bob wrote:
When you break down Glennon's contract(the guaranteed money), he really is on a 1 year "prove it" deal. I thought it was common knowledge there was a high probability of the Bears drafting a quarterback in the 1st three rounds this year? Would Glennon have been less shocked/upset if they took Kizer in the 2nd round?


That's what I thought, that it was common knowledge that Glennon was brought in as a bridge guy, which is why I'm not sure where this "Mike Glennon got screwed." stuff is coming from.


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It really got all fucked up when he reached on Sheehan. He did a nice job of trading down, getting back some picks then blows it, foolishly.


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I disagree that Cutler is better than Glennon(now), especially when you consider "availability"


Yeah, I forgot about his torn labrum.

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Notable: Asked about being a HC handling a face-of-franchise rookie QB, John Fox said he's talked to his friend Jeff Fisher about it.


This should put Bears fans minds at ease.

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