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 Post subject: 2022 Draft
PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 8:26 pm 
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It’s seems like a ridiculous confluence for the bears of the new gm college, a position he played, team need and approximated draft position

Zion johnson, ol, bc

Versatile lineman who can play any of the five positions. His best is guard and the bears will be looking to fill the position after letting an overpriced Daniels walk. This pick seems obvious even months before the draft. Expect them to make a lot of noise about other players to throw teams off his scent, hoping he is there in the early second.

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 Post subject: Re: 2022 Draft
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OL or trading down to get a couple more picks are the only options.

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I'd like the Bears to reach on a player from Notre Dame 2-3 rounds too early


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I'd like the Bears to reach on a player from Notre Dame 2-3 rounds too early

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I'd like the Bears to reach on a player from Notre Dame 2-3 rounds too early

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Daniel Faalele NFL Draft Profile
Position: Offensive Tackle
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Height: 6’8 1/8″
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Wingspan: 86 1/4″
Arm: 35 3/8″
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 Post subject: Re: 2022 Draft
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I think the Bears should draft this guy that’s obviously going to be picked in the first round.


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KDdidit wrote:
I think the Bears should draft this guy that’s obviously going to be picked in the first round.


Who would that be?

Faalele is projected to go 39th.

https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/pl ... el-faalele

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KDdidit wrote:
I think the Bears should draft this guy that’s obviously going to be picked in the first round.


Who would that be?

Faalele is projected to go 39th.

https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/pl ... el-faalele


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Daniel Faalele NFL Draft Profile
Position: Offensive Tackle
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Height: 6’8 1/8″
Weight: 387 pounds
Wingspan: 86 1/4″
Arm: 35 3/8″
Hand: 11″

I watched a couple Gopher games last year.

That guy cannot pass block, but he is a really good run blocker.

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 Post subject: Re: 2022 Draft
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OL or trading down to get a couple more picks are the only options.


Unless there's a guy available who Poles believes is going to be a star, he will need to trade down so he can build roster depth. The number of marginal NFL players who saw significant playing time last year was disquieting.

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 Post subject: Re: 2022 Draft
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OL or trading down to get a couple more picks are the only options.


I think the more picks option is the best option

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I think he mentioned in presser or one of the first interviews that exploring ways to increase picks was important to him.

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 Post subject: Re: 2022 Draft
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Having picks near the top of each round should provide opportunities to fleece Ryan Pace type GM's who fall in love with combine warriors and are willing to give away picks to prove how much smarter they are than everyone else, just have to find the right sucker.


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Having picks near the top of each round should provide opportunities to fleece Ryan Pace type GM's who fall in love with combine warriors and are willing to give away picks to prove how much smarter they are than everyone else, just have to find the right sucker.

Good point.
I believe Jerry Angelo was quite fond of trading down and increasing pick volume. It often worked for him. He was good in drafting later round talent, just whiffed a lot in round 1.

I don't expect my GM to find Tom Brady in every first round, but they at least have to draft guys that play on Sundays. Trading down at this point is probably going to be necessary.

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 Post subject: Re: 2022 Draft
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Bears need to look into a legit 3 tech for the D line, a legit MLB so they can potentially move Smith to the outside where he may actually be better suited in a 4-3.. and WR



I’d be ok with any of these as their 1st pick

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 Post subject: Re: 2022 Draft
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I think 3T has to be a free agent signing. YOu need someone you can count on immediately there. There are always decent MLB available in FA. That position seems to have evolved like RB, from primary to disposable

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 Post subject: Re: 2022 Draft
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Bears need to look into a legit 3 tech for the D line, a legit MLB so they can potentially move Smith to the outside where he may actually be better suited in a 4-3.. and WR



I’d be ok with any of these as their 1st pick


If a CB, WR, or LB with a first round grade slips you almost have to jump on it. Still think trading back a few spots and picking up another pick is the best option in 2nd round.

Heard Poles say he likes value in the second wave of free agency, you can likely find a decent 3 tech in FA, but if you want to actually run Lovie's Cover-2 you need a Tommie Harris type that can get immediate penetration and those guys are hard to find.


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 Post subject: Re: 2022 Draft
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Clawmaster wrote:
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Bears need to look into a legit 3 tech for the D line, a legit MLB so they can potentially move Smith to the outside where he may actually be better suited in a 4-3.. and WR



I’d be ok with any of these as their 1st pick


If a CB, WR, or LB with a first round grade slips you almost have to jump on it. Still think trading back a few spots and picking up another pick is the best option in 2nd round.

Heard Poles say he likes value in the second wave of free agency, you can likely find a decent 3 tech in FA, but if you want to actually run Lovie's Cover-2 you need a Tommie Harris type that can get immediate penetration and those guys are hard to find.


I'm fine with him waiting for some value acquisitions in free agency, but he needs to swing for the fences on a WR for Fields to grow with.

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 Post subject: Re: 2022 Draft
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Some interesting names in FA at WR and TE, but if you have a WR with first round talent that slips to you it makes sense to pull the trigger in the 2nd round, need tons of help there and even signing a top FA WR will just be a 2-3 year fix.

Will be able to tell a ton about Poles by how he approaches this off season, decent amount of cap room, but very limited draft capital for a team that desperately needs to add playmakers on offense.


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 Post subject: Re: 2022 Draft
PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:39 am 
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Some interesting names in FA at WR and TE, but if you have a WR with first round talent that slips to you it makes sense to pull the trigger in the 2nd round, need tons of help there and even signing a top FA WR will just be a 2-3 year fix.

Will be able to tell a ton about Poles by how he approaches this off season, decent amount of cap room, but very limited draft capital for a team that desperately needs to add playmakers on offense.

Driving last night, a caller with Hub got me thinking about the Bears off-season. Caller asked if he expected Poles to clean-house in the front-office. Hub's response was absolutely not. Draft analysis and work was already near completion and that was all property of the Bears. Any changes would came after the draft.

I find this to be a complete cop-out and kind of a load of bullshit. Yes....time is needed to evaluate the staff in place and draft is coming very soon. Still....Poles has his own research, his own analysis, and his own opinions he's bringing to the Bears. He should know enough to look at the Bears existing scouting work to say "these guys sucks, what the hell are you thinking". Great example would be Pace drafting Kevin White in the first round. It was Pace's first draft. The pick was a complete bust. There is zero chance I give Pace a pass on that pick and say it was on the previous GM and support staff. You have to know better.

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 Post subject: Re: 2022 Draft
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BigW72, Hub may be right. I was surprised to learn that here the Steelers GM is retiring and they will not replace him or anything else until after the draft.

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BigW72, Hub may be right. I was surprised to learn that here the Steelers GM is retiring and they will not replace him or anything else until after the draft.

There is truth to it, but still...when a new GM is hired you can't say they haven't done their own work and have their own draft priorities.

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pittmike wrote:
BigW72, Hub may be right. I was surprised to learn that here the Steelers GM is retiring and they will not replace him or anything else until after the draft.

There is truth to it, but still...when a new GM is hired you can't say they haven't done their own work and have their own draft priorities.


I guess both can be true. Probably better that way.

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I'm with BW, Poles better have some of his own notes for early round picks. I can excuse late round misses because of a former staff, but I can't excuse an early round miss.

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The last regime proved to be consistently incompetent when it came to self-scouting and skill player evaluations, particularly at WR and TE, not sure if the previous regime even had grades for Oline because they apparently had a totally different value placed on the LT position than any other franchise.

That said, I am hope, no praying, that Poles comes in with drastically different grades on numerous members of the current roster as well as a different evaluation scale in the pro player and college scouting areas. He likely has tons of data already and they quietly brought in an assistant GM to help him revamp the franchises approach to player evaluation/procurement.

This first off season will be crucial as he attempts to radically upgrade the talent level on offense with limited draft capital, but with a fair amount of cap space which should allow for the addition of a few key pieces. The Bears have over invested on the defensive side of the ball and that will have to be brought more into balance by bringing in offensive talent.


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