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I've seen nothing that says he was faster than Herbert. He's not explosive. I wanted someone who had homerun potential.

Poles appears to be slowly erasing all of the Pace guys off the roster. I wouldn't be shocked if the offense didn't have a Pace player by 2024.

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Herbert doesn't have homerun potential. And he's libel to get the QB killed if it's a pass play


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Herbert doesn't have homerun potential. And he's libel to get the QB killed if it's a pass play


He doesn't. That guy isn't on the team. I thought Herbert was better at pass blocking last year. Still a liability, but better.

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A back that can pass pro, and catch the check down is a key component to make this offense go, especially when teams don't buy play fakes on play action, it should be an easy 5-7 yards, the QB reads the D, and drops it to the back who flares out into an open area if he does not have to pick up a blitzer.

It seemed they thought Ebener could fill this position, but he struggled to learn the playbook making him a liability in pass pro and caused him to play slow because he didn't know where to line up or what to do, it will struggle to make the roster this year.

There are a ton of experts who think Johnson will be at the minimum a solid NFL back and could be a real asset due to his diverse skill set.

I think they see him as Montgomery's replacement, but a whole lot less expensive.


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I may have changed my opinion on Johnson, he's definity faster than Herbert


Johnson 40 time: 4.58
Herbert 40 time: 4.50

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A back that can pass pro, and catch the check down is a key component to make this offense go, especially when teams don't buy play fakes on play action, it should be an easy 5-7 yards, the QB reads the D, and drops it to the back who flares out into an open area if he does not have to pick up a blitzer.

It seemed they thought Ebener could fill this position, but he struggled to learn the playbook making him a liability in pass pro and caused him to play slow because he didn't know where to line up or what to do, it will struggle to make the roster this year.

There are a ton of experts who think Johnson will be at the minimum a solid NFL back and could be a real asset due to his diverse skill set.

I think they see him as Montgomery's replacement, but a whole lot less expensive.



I think that he may have the most upside of all of their picks in that he was an important leader of that team and also that he didn't get beat up as much as other more highly rated backs in the draft. I love his vision and versatility also.

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I may have changed my opinion on Johnson, he's definity faster than Herbert


Johnson 40 time: 4.58
Herbert 40 time: 4.50

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I've never seen Herbert hurdle anyone, Johnson did it 4 or 5 times in that video


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I may have changed my opinion on Johnson, he's definity faster than Herbert


Johnson 40 time: 4.58
Herbert 40 time: 4.50

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I've never seen Herbert hurdle anyone, Johnson did it 4 or 5 times in that video

What does that have to do with speed?

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I've never seen Herbert hurdle anyone, Johnson did it 4 or 5 times in that video

What does that have to do with speed?


Is this a serious question?


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I've never seen Herbert hurdle anyone, Johnson did it 4 or 5 times in that video

What does that have to do with speed?


Is this a serious question?

You said he was definitely faster than Herbert. That was shown to be false. You came back with ability to hurdle. Just because he hurdled someone does not make him faster than Herbert.

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And you do realize 40 time does not equal football speed? Herbert is SLOW. Hits the hole good, but slow


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:lol: Bob telling on himself that he doesn't understand what he's watching when he watches football

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Caller Bob wrote:
And you do realize 40 time does not equal football speed? Herbert is SLOW. Hits the hole good, but slow


Herbert plays faster than all of the video I've seen from Johnson. He's not explosive, but he's far closer to being explosive than Johnson. The only legitimate knocks on Herbert is his blocking and durability.

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:lol: Bob telling on himself that he doesn't understand what he's watching when he watches football


And as usual, you only know what a stat sheet and PFF tell you.


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Nas wrote:
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And you do realize 40 time does not equal football speed? Herbert is SLOW. Hits the hole good, but slow


Herbert plays faster than all of the video I've seen from Johnson. He's not explosive, but he's far closer to being explosive than Johnson. The only legitimate knocks on Herbert is his blocking and durability.
Receiving?

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And you do realize 40 time does not equal football speed? Herbert is SLOW. Hits the hole good, but slow


Herbert plays faster than all of the video I've seen from Johnson. He's not explosive, but he's far closer to being explosive than Johnson. The only legitimate knocks on Herbert is his blocking and durability.
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It's hard to evaluate that with our quarterback.

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I'll hold off on any conclusions about Johnson.

Herbert was near the top of YPC across the entire league when he got hurt. I'm perfectly fine with him being our starter and supported by more multi faceted players.

Johnson seems like a Monty clone, and I liked Monty.

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I've seen nothing that says he was faster than Herbert. He's not explosive. I wanted someone who had homerun potential.

Poles appears to be slowly erasing all of the Pace guys off the roster. I wouldn't be shocked if the offense didn't have a Pace player by 2024.

You think they're gonna trade Fields?

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I've seen nothing that says he was faster than Herbert. He's not explosive. I wanted someone who had homerun potential.

Poles appears to be slowly erasing all of the Pace guys off the roster. I wouldn't be shocked if the offense didn't have a Pace player by 2024.

You think they're gonna trade Fields?


If Fields passes the way he has his first 2 seasons, they're going to draft his replacement and dump him next offseason.

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And you do realize 40 time does not equal football speed? Herbert is SLOW. Hits the hole good, but slow


Herbert plays faster than all of the video I've seen from Johnson. He's not explosive, but he's far closer to being explosive than Johnson. The only legitimate knocks on Herbert is his blocking and durability.
Receiving?


It's hard to evaluate that with our quarterback.

He averaged less than 1 reception per game in college as well. David Montgomery caught 76 passes in 29 games on passes mostly from Fields (or worse). Herbert caught 23 passes in 30 games. They don’t throw to him for a reason.

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And you do realize 40 time does not equal football speed? Herbert is SLOW. Hits the hole good, but slow


Herbert plays faster than all of the video I've seen from Johnson. He's not explosive, but he's far closer to being explosive than Johnson. The only legitimate knocks on Herbert is his blocking and durability.
Receiving?


It's hard to evaluate that with our quarterback.

He averaged less than 1 reception per game in college as well. David Montgomery caught 76 passes in 29 games on passes mostly from Fields (or worse). Herbert caught 23 passes in 30 games. They don’t throw to him for a reason.


He has 28 targets and 23 receptions. I think Herbert's lack of opportunities had more to do with his blocking than his hands.

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I've seen nothing that says he was faster than Herbert. He's not explosive. I wanted someone who had homerun potential.

Poles appears to be slowly erasing all of the Pace guys off the roster. I wouldn't be shocked if the offense didn't have a Pace player by 2024.



He reminds me of Tony Pollard, who is pretty damn good.

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And you do realize 40 time does not equal football speed? Herbert is SLOW. Hits the hole good, but slow


Herbert plays faster than all of the video I've seen from Johnson. He's not explosive, but he's far closer to being explosive than Johnson. The only legitimate knocks on Herbert is his blocking and durability.
Receiving?


It's hard to evaluate that with our quarterback.

He averaged less than 1 reception per game in college as well. David Montgomery caught 76 passes in 29 games on passes mostly from Fields (or worse). Herbert caught 23 passes in 30 games. They don’t throw to him for a reason.


He has 28 targets and 23 receptions. I think Herbert's lack of opportunities had more to do with his blocking than his hands.
Again, there’s a reason for the lack of opportunities throughout his career (including college). If he were viewed as a decent receiver they would take advantage of that. They see him every day in practice and know who he is.

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Again, there’s a reason for the lack of opportunities throughout his career (including college). If he were viewed as a decent receiver they would take advantage of that. They see him every day in practice and know who he is.


Again, there's no evidence that he can't catch, as much as you want that to be true. Maybe we'll get an idea this year if he's more than just an elite runner.

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Poles wasn't interested in Skoronski at all.

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Poles wasn't interested in Skoronski at all.


It will be interesting to understand how the Bears viewed him - whether as a LT, OG or if they thought he could transition to RT. Either way, if the Bears prioritized drafting the best RT, I'd be curious how Paris Johnson factored in also.


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He dubs draft picks he really wants "grizzlies," so there's definitely something to watch here.

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