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 Post subject: Re: Mongo to the HOF
PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:47 pm 
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92 sacks for a interior lineman from that era is pretty impressive, you can justify him getting in even if there is a bit of mercy factor here given his condition.


Sure, but when you're playing between two of the greatest of all-time somebody is gonna get double-teamed, so who is trying to stop you?

Spaulding has it right. It doesn't hurt anyone to put him in. The Football HoF is weird anyway. How could Tommy Nobis not be in?


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 Post subject: Re: Mongo to the HOF
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Didn't deserve it? Didn't the guy play every game for like 8 of 9 years?



So he's sort of like Shawon Dunston, right?

No.


I would say both guys fit at about the same rank in the pantheon of their respective sports. They showed up everyday and played pretty well.

I mean you could say that if you never watched sports and didn't know any stats sure.

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 Post subject: Re: Mongo to the HOF
PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 6:13 pm 
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
92 sacks for a interior lineman from that era is pretty impressive, you can justify him getting in even if there is a bit of mercy factor here given his condition.


Sure, but when you're playing between two of the greatest of all-time somebody is gonna get double-teamed, so who is trying to stop you?

Spaulding has it right. It doesn't hurt anyone to put him in. The Football HoF is weird anyway. How could Tommy Nobis not be in?



Maybe Dent and Hampton were all time greats in part because they lined up next to Mongo? I’m sure Mongo drew his share of double teams as well.

I’d argue that Mongo’s off field rollicking circus of a life probably worked against him in that he got more attention for his off field and post playing career endeavors and was viewed less through the lens of the dominant player he was.

Mongo was first or second team All-Pro 5x. The same number as Urlacher. Also the 191 games played consecutively, in football like most other endeavors, availability is the best ability.


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 Post subject: Re: Mongo to the HOF
PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 6:39 pm 
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
92 sacks for a interior lineman from that era is pretty impressive, you can justify him getting in even if there is a bit of mercy factor here given his condition.


Sure, but when you're playing between two of the greatest of all-time somebody is gonna get double-teamed, so who is trying to stop you?

Spaulding has it right. It doesn't hurt anyone to put him in. The Football HoF is weird anyway. How could Tommy Nobis not be in?



Maybe Dent and Hampton were all time greats in part because they lined up next to Mongo?


You're entitled to that opinion. It's not one I share.

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 Post subject: Re: Mongo to the HOF
PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 6:51 pm 
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Good for him I guess but not a Hall of Famer in my eyes. My guess is that if he were already gone he wouldnt be getting in. I was a pretty young man at the time he was playing but my recollection was that he had better numbers because everything went to him and away from Hampton and Dent.


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