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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:49 pm 
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even if they are someone like Frank who is overwhelmingly supportive of the team he roots for, .


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:00 pm 
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How about this?

WE DON'T REALLY KNOW IF HE IS A FRANCHISE QB OR NOT!!!!

Either answer is silly at this point. he has shown signs he is and he has shown signs he isn't.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:42 am 
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Calling him a franchise QB is officially over after last night. He isn't. He may be one day but he isn't now. A franchise QB doesn't totally destroy any chance your team has to beat a bad team with an inept QB. A franchise QB doesn't lead the league in interceptions by far. A franchise QB knows how to work with his offensive talent or lack therof instead of trying to throw it down the field into double coverage when your WR isn't the type of player that can take it out over multiple defenders.

We can argue individual plays and discount some of his interceptions. This happens to every QB. Sometimes interceptions just aren't your fault but over the course of a season a clear pattern has emerged. If our WR's suck, and we all know they suck, then I would guess that Jay Cutler knows they suck. If Jay knows they suck then stop expecting them to make great plays to break up your interceptions! Even some of those picks that were the "receivers fault" he was still covered. The WR didn't help Jay but when you throw it to a covered WR you need to have a reasonable expectation that your receiver can beat the defender. It's not like these are passes going through hands and tipped in the air. This is a WR covered who was unable to save Cutler by batting down a ball that was thrown to a covered player.

This inconsistency has been true his whole career. It drove people in Denver crazy. It leads to a lot of .500 seasons. I bet Cutler has a great game next week. Then everyone will proclaim that he is awesome and will be awesome in the future. We'll then see this again and again and again. To be honest, I don't think this is fixable just like it wasn't with Rex Grossman. Jay Cutler has no desire to only take what the defense gave him. If he did, Forte would have had 250 yards receiving last night and we win. Instead, he needs to throw it longer.

The other problem is that Jay Cutler is paid as a franchise QB. He was traded for a bunch of valuable picks. We need him to be great because our team is being built around him. There are at least 10 QB's in the league right now who I'd rather have and probably 20 QB's in the league right now playing better.

Jay Cutler is not a franchise QB. He may be one day but he isn't there right now.

At least he has a strong arm though!

:oops: why stop at ten ,i believe there are 28 other qb's who will be watching this weekend ,pick one of those" franchise QB'S" for your team


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:36 pm 
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cubbiegirlshamus wrote:
How about this?

WE DON'T REALLY KNOW IF HE IS A FRANCHISE QB OR NOT!!!!

Either answer is silly at this point. he has shown signs he is and he has shown signs he isn't.

Hey is Grossman playing this weekend?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:02 pm 
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Phil McCracken wrote:
cubbiegirlshamus wrote:
How about this?

WE DON'T REALLY KNOW IF HE IS A FRANCHISE QB OR NOT!!!!

Either answer is silly at this point. he has shown signs he is and he has shown signs he isn't.

Hey is Grossman playing this weekend?


Maybe he and Orton will watch the game together. Maybe they'll have Brian Griese over.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:03 pm 
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cubbiegirlshamus wrote:
Phil McCracken wrote:
cubbiegirlshamus wrote:
How about this?

WE DON'T REALLY KNOW IF HE IS A FRANCHISE QB OR NOT!!!!

Either answer is silly at this point. he has shown signs he is and he has shown signs he isn't.

Hey is Grossman playing this weekend?


Maybe he and Orton will watch the game together. Maybe they'll have Brian Griese over.

Will Cade McNown be serving them drinks?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:21 pm 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:39 pm 
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Jay Cutler is not a franchise QB

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Irish Boy thanks foradmitting you rooted for the Packers in the game.

All Orton fans are happy tonight.


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Irish Boy thanks foradmitting you rooted for the Packers in the game.

All Orton fans are happy tonight.

You have issues with both logic and reality.

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cubbiegirlshamus wrote:
Irish Boy thanks foradmitting you rooted for the Packers in the game.

All Orton fans are happy tonight.

You have issues with both logic and reality.

This is an irrefutable truth.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:31 pm 
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IF he had won the game and thrown for 300 yards and 5 TDs would you be saying he was a franchise QB?

We don't know yet if he is. Most franchise QBs have a line and wide receivers that are woth their weight in pig poop.

I still find it ironic that the QB who looked best in the game was Hanie. Want to bet the moron meatballs start calling for him to start next season?

Rodgers really didn't look like a franchise QB either if you look at the game overall. If the Packers had lost the game really could have been blamed on him. He was very Grossmany in the game in reality not Manningey.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:33 pm 
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Cutler needs to improve but before we damn him to hell, the Bears are in the NFC Championship in large part because of him.

The Cowboy, Eagle and Jet game were won because he had some great games.

Aaron Rodgers has played in the same system since he came in the league.

Cutler has had 3 offensive coordinators in 3 years and I don't think Turner did anything to help Cutler's development.

The Bears have average receivers and a sub par offensive line. The Bears need to strengthen these areas before and gets some offensive stability in the coaching staff before we decide that Cutler is the problem.


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