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Not only do I want the Bears to pick an OT with the first pick, but it seems to be pretty deep in that late 1st early second area. Seen 5 different rankings of the top OT. My only concern is taking Tyron Smith who everyone says needs more weight. Not what I want TODAY in my OT who I want to play today!

WR- We need a Big WR! Free agent ONLY! For whatever reason Rookie WR's don't catch on quickly for the most part, need a Veteran NFL WR, named Vince Jackson! BIG! BIG! a Must!

CB - Find one, that is up n coming. This is one of those positions you can catch a guy one the way up! Thus not paying out the nose.

DRAFT - LB and RB- The Bears are living on the edge with LB's All 3 over 30. Been done before, being done with the Steelers. Need a guy! RB - A speed guy is needed. DeMarco Murray, Oklahoma! 3rd round steal.

Jerry ca fill in the rest.

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Plaxico Burress. Will work for cheap. The Vick scenario, especially if he gets a big deal, will be a big motivation for this guy. From what I've heard, he seems to have his head on straight.

OT is a must with that 1st pick, but I have a bad feeling after the Chris Williams debacle Jerry will shy away from using the 1st on an OL. Of course, drafting a healthy player would also help.

Jim Miller said Angelo was digging into the LB vine at the College All Star game.

If he drafts some undersized player from NW Texas Christian I'm gonna throw my radio out the window. Jerry needs to hit on A LOT of picks this year or convince the McCaskeys to pull another Hendry.


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I guess I underestimated Tez Wilson's draft stock, as Vince and IB believe he will be a 3rd rounder. I say if he still around by the end of the 3rd round, the Bears should take him.

I agree, draft a tackle in the first round, and a WR in the 2nd....I'd love to see Julio Jones in a Bears uni, but I'm sure he will be gone by then. Then again I'm also the same guy that liked Mike Williams of USC and Dezmon Briscoe :oops:

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I definitely think they need to go OL in the 1st round and look at WR in free agency. There was an article somewhere recently about the Bears being interested in the Pouncey kid (brother of the C from the Steelers) from Florida. I guess he can play Center and Guard.

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Carimi would be huge for this team.


Doubt he fits in cap as is, but Mankins is available too. If by miracle you could sign him, and draft a Carimi in the first round, your line is set.


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Does anyone know how Ruskell has done with O-Line draft picks?

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I see a mock draft where they have the Bears taking Jonathan Baldwin , a WR out of Pitt...6'5'' 225. He had 53 catches for 822 this past season.

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I see another mock draft where Tez Wilson is an early 2nd round pick, so I guess I didn't know what the hell I was talking about....

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If he drafts some undersized player from NW Texas Christian I'm gonna throw my radio out the window.


Don't get pissed, you know he will pick a shmuck from a small school in the Eastern Texas region way to early. I'm guessing WR DeAndre Brown from Southern Miss or DT Cedric Thornton from Southern Arkansas in the second round.

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Plaxico Burress. Will work for cheap. The Vick scenario, especially if he gets a big deal, will be a big motivation for this guy. From what I've heard, he seems to have his head on straight...


It will be ironic if Burress joins the Bears. The Bears were interested in taking him in the 2000 draft but he was gone by the time the Bears picked. So they had to settle for Brian Urlacher.

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I'm not sure I want to admit this, but not only did I record and breakdown the Senior Bowl, I actually watched all the practices on the NFL Network too.

And now that the NFL draft order is finalized for the first round, we know the Bears are slated to have the No. 29, No. 62 and No. 93 overall picks in the first three rounds. The later rounds will be finalized after compensatory picks are handed out by the NFL, but as of now, the Bears have all seven picks this year.

So after watching a ton of Senior Bowl coverage, I've found a few guys who would fit perfectly for the Bears. For now, let's stick to the first three rounds since we know where those picks will be:

1st round, No. 29 overall: OT Gabe Carimi, Wisconsin (6-7, 327 lbs.)

For some reason most scouts have cooled on the 2010 Outland Trophy winner (nation's top interior lineman). Most draft boards have him behind Colorado's Nate Solder and Boston College's Anthony Castonzo, but both Solder and Castonzo struggled mightily in the Senior Bowl. Carimi missed the game after suffering a minor ankle injury on the Thursday leading up to the game, but all week long he manhandled opposing defensive players. Some will wonder how Carimi would have fared in the game since Solder and Castonzo struggled, but he has regular season results to back up his draft stock. Carimi went head-to-head with Purdue's Ryan Kerrigan, Iowa's Adrian Clayborn and Ohio State's Cameron Heyward (all three defensive ends are projected first-round picks) and shut them all down. If that's not enough, he also faced teammate J.J. Watt — another projected first-round pick) in practice everyday. As of now, it appears like Solder and Castonzo will go first in the draft and Carimi would be a steal at No. 29.

2nd round, No. 62 overall: CB Kendric Burney, North Carolina (5-9, 190 lbs.)

Burney was a four-year starter at North Carolina and is a perfect cover-2 cornerback. He has good instincts and is a ball-hawk, which Lovie Smith will love. He had 11 interceptions in his college career, including five as a junior. His stock has fallen a little bit because of a lack of time on the field. Burney missed the first seven games as a senior after violating NCAA agent benefits and preferential treatment rules. He played in the final six games of the season, however, and racked up 30 tackles and two interceptions. He also looked great in Mobile, Ala. during Senior Bowl week and would be a solid late-second round pick.

3rd round, No. 93 overall: WR Vincent Brown, San Diego State (6-0, 195 lbs.)

As I watched Senior Bowl week unfold, I made an effort to discover a player I knew nothing about. No one stood out more than San Diego State wide receiver Vincent Brown. Brown made catch-after-catch and played way larger than his official height and weight indicated. In fact, I was shocked to learn he was only 6-feet tall and 195 lbs. The Bears need a guy who can go up and make a play. Unfortunately, all the proven 6-4 receivers are going to be gone by the time the Bears make their first round pick. Brown's college stats are ridiculous. He caught 69 passes for 1,352 yards and 10 touchdowns as a senior, averaging 19.2 yards per catch. He's a physical receiver, something the Bears lack, but he still has the home run ability. Seems like the kind of guy Jay Cutler needs.

Other options:

It might be time for the Bears to look for a new center and if Wisconsin guard/center John Moffitt slips to the fourth round, he would be an absolute steal. Moffitt's performance in the Senior Bowl went largely unnoticed for some reason, but as the tackles struggled, Moffitt made every single block he was asked to and was never beat while playing both guard and center. I think he can play guard on Sundays, but if a team wants to make him a center for the next 7-10 years, they won't be disappointed.

All the sudden there is talk that Arkansas quarterback Ryan Mallett could slip to the second or even third round. I think that is crazy because the only quarterback that is better than Mallett is Stanford's Andrew Luck, who decided to stay in school. Mallett is 6-6 and has a cannon to along with surprisingly swift feet. Scouts have some concerns about his off-the-field demeanor. We aren't talking about legal problems, but more so his work ethic and effort to fix his mechanics. I'm not going to lie, he's got a little Cutler in him as he makes some horrible decisions sometimes, but he's young and has all the tools to be a star in the NFL. I doubt the Bears would draft a quarterback this high, but if Mallett really slipped to the end of the second round, he would be the best player left on the draft board and they would at least have to consider it.

Finally, don't be surprised if the Bears go after another player from Abilene Christian. Edmond Gates is an extremely fast wide receiver who has some size at 6-2. He could go as early as the second round so he's another option for the Bears.

For more on the NFL Draft and college football throughout the year, follow Adam on Twitter @AdamHoge670

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FWIW, Boers said his "Bears guy" said they are aware of and will address the O-Line problem either by draft or FA signings.

The kid from Wisconsin sounds interesting. Plus, he had an ankle injury which automatically moves him up Angelo's rankings. It's not a bad back, but it's a start. Also FWIW, a lot of mock drafts I've seen have Carimi gone before the Bears pick in the 1st. 1 of these guys might be the Bears pick : Costanzo, Pouncey, Camiri, Tyrone Smith or Nate Solder.


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2nd round, No. 62 overall: CB Kendric Burney, North Carolina (5-9, 190 lbs.)

Burney was a four-year starter at North Carolina and is a perfect cover-2 cornerback. He has good instincts and is a ball-hawk, which Lovie Smith will love. He had 11 interceptions in his college career, including five as a junior. His stock has fallen a little bit because of a lack of time on the field. Burney missed the first seven games as a senior after violating NCAA agent benefits and preferential treatment rules. He played in the final six games of the season, however, and racked up 30 tackles and two interceptions. He also looked great in Mobile, Ala. during Senior Bowl week and would be a solid late-second round pick.



I was just thinking the Bears need another undersized CB.

DJ Moore showed enough to win a starting position if they wanted a small corner.

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Whoever takes Pouncey has to feel like they are at least getting as close to a known commodity as you can.

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Whoever takes Pouncey has to feel like they are at least getting as close to a known commodity as you can.


This is the guy I would like to see them take. Put him at Guard next year and then ultimately you have your replacement at center.

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I would think you should be able to get a G or C in a later round. I'd think you'd want a more skilled position filled with a 1st round pick. I hope they'd go OT with Carimi if he's available.

But, I think they'll go DT, because they are the Bears and they'll draft a defensive player first, likely MY GUY, Corey Liuget.

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I wouldn't have a problem with Carimi either. I just think Pouncey is about as sure of a bet is your are going to find for the OL and it is a position of need.

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Aren't there a few Vanderbilt players we can draft?

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I guess I'm the only guy here that don't think the Bears need to draft a OT. I think they need to focus on the interior. I think Webb/Williams/Omiyale are good enough so you don't have to consider that a need. How much better will Lance Louis be with Tice working with him for another year? After an interior O-lineman I would focus on DE/LB/DT. I think free agency is the way to go for a WR. I would also give Tice a project at C to work with late in the draft. You really can't continue to expect Kruetz to play at a high level and stay healthy.

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I guess I'm the only guy here that don't think the Bears need to draft a OT. I think they need to focus on the interior. I think Webb/Williams/Omiyale are good enough so you don't have to consider that a need. How much better will Lance Louis be with Tice working with him for another year? After an interior O-lineman I would focus on DE/LB/DT. I think free agency is the way to go for a WR. I would also give Tice a project at C to work with late in the draft. You really can't continue to expect Kruetz to play at a high level and stay healthy.


I agree about getting a WR in free agency, better to get a proven player rather than rolling the dice on WR draft picks. Sadly I have no faith that they can have a successful draft regardless of what direction they go in.

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HOVA wrote:
I guess I'm the only guy here that don't think the Bears need to draft a OT. I think they need to focus on the interior. I think Webb/Williams/Omiyale are good enough so you don't have to consider that a need. How much better will Lance Louis be with Tice working with him for another year? After an interior O-lineman I would focus on DE/LB/DT. I think free agency is the way to go for a WR. I would also give Tice a project at C to work with late in the draft. You really can't continue to expect Kruetz to play at a high level and stay healthy.


I think it's easier to fill G/C via lower round picks or free agency than trying to find someone to anchor your line at the tackle. It's a pretty decent group of OTs in this year's draft that should be available at the Bears spot. I think Webb can be a mainstay at RT and I like the idea of getting a guy you can slot in at LT for the next 8 years and not worry about it. Fill the interior needs later and FA.

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I agree with you about G's and C's but I just don't think T is a need. I think Webb at LT and Williams at RT can work. I see you've given up on Chris Williams. I'm not ready to do that at this point.

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But, I think they'll go DT, because they are the Bears and they'll draft a defensive player first, likely MY GUY, Corey Liuget.


Nevis out of LSU is a full fledged Lovie/Angelo DT pick. I don't think Liuget is going to be there when they pick.

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HOVA wrote:
I guess I'm the only guy here that don't think the Bears need to draft a OT. I think they need to focus on the interior.


You having a hard time reading today?

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This is the guy (Pouncey) I would like to see them take. Put him at Guard next year and then ultimately you have your replacement at center.

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I guess I'm the only guy here that don't think the Bears need to draft a OT. I think they need to focus on the interior.


You having a hard time reading today?

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This is the guy (Pouncey) I would like to see them take. Put him at Guard next year and then ultimately you have your replacement at center.


I guess so

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Hmm, didn't Pouncey's brother tap out on his team in the Superbowl?

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