Chicago Fanatics Message Board
http://chicagofanatics.com/

Vaccine thread
http://chicagofanatics.com/viewtopic.php?f=75&t=85706
Page 36 of 48

Author:  Seacrest [ Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Vaccines (Right and wrong side of history)

Douchebag wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
For our second son, the risk was far greater having him immunized based upon what happened to his older brother. We are not one of the 200 cases. And there are many others like us.
If what you say is true, and a doctor did not recommend the younger brother to get the vaccinations, you should hate the anti-vaxxers more than anyone.

Unsubstantiated cocktail party talk rather than actual science is really dangerous for your unvaccinated child.

This is probably the best post in this thread. Parents of children with legitimate issues with vaccines should be furious at all the dopes out there. Your child is being put in danger due to others stupidity.


Actually, not a well thought out post at all.

How would we know who these "other" people are unless they told everyone?

Author:  Douchebag [ Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vaccines (Right and wrong side of history)

Seacrest wrote:

How would we know who these "other" people are unless they told everyone?

They should have to wear a scarlet letter.

Author:  Seacrest [ Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vaccines (Right and wrong side of history)

Douchebag wrote:
Seacrest wrote:

How would we know who these "other" people are unless they told everyone?

They should have to wear a scarlet letter.



I have no doubt that Brick would be first in line to advocate that.

Author:  Douchebag [ Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vaccines (Right and wrong side of history)

Seacrest wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
Seacrest wrote:

How would we know who these "other" people are unless they told everyone?

They should have to wear a scarlet letter.



I have no doubt that Brick would be first in line to advocate that.

I think it is actually a fair compromise to the vaccine issue. They shouldn't be mandatory, but if you choose to opt out, people should have a right to know.

Author:  Seacrest [ Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vaccines (Right and wrong side of history)

Douchebag wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
Seacrest wrote:

How would we know who these "other" people are unless they told everyone?

They should have to wear a scarlet letter.



I have no doubt that Brick would be first in line to advocate that.

I think it is actually a fair compromise to the vaccine issue. They shouldn't be mandatory, but if you choose to opt out, people should have a right to know.



Parents are given the information that there are children in their kids class that have not been vaccinated.

Author:  Douchebag [ Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vaccines (Right and wrong side of history)

That's great, but what about the screaming brood next to me in a restaurant?

Author:  Seacrest [ Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vaccines (Right and wrong side of history)

Douchebag wrote:
That's great, but what about the screaming brood next to me in a restaurant?



What about them?

Author:  Curious Hair [ Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vaccines (Right and wrong side of history)

Chances are they're bad parents, thus their kids aren't vaccinated.

Author:  Douchebag [ Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vaccines (Right and wrong side of history)

Seacrest wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
That's great, but what about the screaming brood next to me in a restaurant?



What about them?

I should have a right to know whether they have been vaccinated.

Author:  Seacrest [ Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vaccines (Right and wrong side of history)

Douchebag wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
That's great, but what about the screaming brood next to me in a restaurant?



What about them?

I should have a right to know whether they have been vaccinated.


Then I should have access to your health history as well.

Author:  spanky [ Sat Feb 07, 2015 1:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vaccines (Right and wrong side of history)

Seacrest wrote:
Parents are given the information that there are children in their kids class that have not been vaccinated.

Not in any district that I know of. That would be a violation of HIPPA.

The district can post the number of kids in the district that are enrolled that are not vaccinated in the whole district, but nothing is required about specific school, grade level, classroom, etc.

In the event of an "outbreak", it can be easily figured out who is non-vaccinated because all non-vax are required to be held out of school for 21 days, where as others would be held out for only 5 days. But I suppose at that point it wouldn't matter.

Author:  Brick [ Sat Feb 07, 2015 1:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vaccines (Right and wrong side of history)

Seacrest wrote:
Actually, not a well thought out post at all.

How would we know who these "other" people are unless they told everyone?
Many are proud to tell you.

Still though, it doesn't really matter. You should be angry at those who are willing to admit it and to those who are too cowardly to admit it.

The point is that if your child was told by a doctor that they should not be vaccinated then you should be even more furious than a parent of a vaccinated child who would then only have to worry about being one of the unfortunate ones where the vaccine doesn't provide complete protection.

The parent who stops vaccinating because Becky at a party told her that she shouldn't make it much more likely that your kid will get something they shouldn't.

Author:  Seacrest [ Sat Feb 07, 2015 1:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vaccines (Right and wrong side of history)

spanky wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
Parents are given the information that there are children in their kids class that have not been vaccinated.

Not in any district that I know of. That would be a violation of HIPPA.

The district can post the number of kids in the district that are enrolled that are not vaccinated in the whole district, but nothing is required about specific school, grade level, classroom, etc.

In the event of an "outbreak", it can be easily figured out who is non-vaccinated because all non-vax are required to be held out of school for 21 days, where as others would be held out for only 5 days. But I suppose at that point it wouldn't matter.


They are told they are in the class in the two private schools are son as attended.

They were not told who they are.

They are required to be held out of school for 21 days.

Author:  spanky [ Sat Feb 07, 2015 1:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vaccines (Right and wrong side of history)

Seacrest wrote:
spanky wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
Parents are given the information that there are children in their kids class that have not been vaccinated.

Not in any district that I know of. That would be a violation of HIPPA.

The district can post the number of kids in the district that are enrolled that are not vaccinated in the whole district, but nothing is required about specific school, grade level, classroom, etc.

In the event of an "outbreak", it can be easily figured out who is non-vaccinated because all non-vax are required to be held out of school for 21 days, where as others would be held out for only 5 days. But I suppose at that point it wouldn't matter.


They are told they are in the class in the two private schools are son as attended.

They were not told who they are.

They are required to be held out of school for 21 days.

Ah. I didn't realize you were talking private school.

Author:  Seacrest [ Sat Feb 07, 2015 1:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vaccines (Right and wrong side of history)

Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
Actually, not a well thought out post at all.

How would we know who these "other" people are unless they told everyone?
Many are proud to tell you.

Still though, it doesn't really matter. You should be angry at those who are willing to admit it and to those who are too cowardly to admit it.

The point is that if your child was told by a doctor that they should not be vaccinated then you should be even more furious than a parent of a vaccinated child who would then only have to worry about being one of the unfortunate ones where the vaccine doesn't provide complete protection.

The parent who stops vaccinating because Becky at a party told her that she shouldn't make it much more likely that your kid will get something they shouldn't.



No, I shouldn't take the time out of my schedule to be possibly angry at people I'm not even aware of.

Author:  Brick [ Sat Feb 07, 2015 1:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vaccines (Right and wrong side of history)

Seacrest wrote:
No, I shouldn't take the time out of my schedule to be possibly angry at people I'm not even aware of.
But you'll take time out to have probably 40 posts in this thread?

Author:  Seacrest [ Sat Feb 07, 2015 1:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vaccines (Right and wrong side of history)

Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
No, I shouldn't take the time out of my schedule to be possibly angry at people I'm not even aware of.
But you'll take time out to have probably 40 posts in this thread?


That's all you are left with Brick.

Author:  Brick [ Sat Feb 07, 2015 2:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vaccines (Right and wrong side of history)

Seacrest wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
No, I shouldn't take the time out of my schedule to be possibly angry at people I'm not even aware of.
But you'll take time out to have probably 40 posts in this thread?


That's all you are left with Brick.
No, here is what I'm left with.

I'm finding your story unlikely that a doctor told you that your second kid should not be vaccinated. Someone who has an actual medical reason why their kid shouldn't would not be against vaccines. I think it is a convenient excuse for you to say it because you should want everyone to have it. I'm also not so sure that vaccine allergies have been found to be genetic.

I don't doubt there may have been some sort of adverse reaction to a shot with your first kid. That can happen and we know it. I just doubt everything else. I also believe this because you openly advocate that the "future of medicine in the next 50 years" includes the treatments of a doctor who claims that you can beat cancer by "deep breathing".

How you are talking is fairly common with many of the people that buy into the myth of chiropractors as primary medical caregivers. You are hitting on many of the same unsubstantiated talking points that for profit chiropractors use to sell books and sell treatments with little to no proof of effectiveness.

So that is what I am left with.

Author:  Seacrest [ Sat Feb 07, 2015 2:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vaccines (Right and wrong side of history)

Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
No, I shouldn't take the time out of my schedule to be possibly angry at people I'm not even aware of.
But you'll take time out to have probably 40 posts in this thread?


That's all you are left with Brick.
No, here is what I'm left with.

I'm finding your story unlikely that a doctor told you that your second kid should not be vaccinated. Someone who has an actual medical reason why their kid shouldn't would not be against vaccines. I think it is a convenient excuse for you to say it because you should want everyone to have it. I'm also not so sure that vaccine allergies have been found to be genetic.

I don't doubt there may have been some sort of adverse reaction to a shot with your first kid. That can happen and we know it. I just doubt everything else. I also believe this because you openly advocate that the "future of medicine in the next 50 years" includes the treatments of a doctor who claims that you can beat cancer by "deep breathing".

How you are talking is fairly common with many of the people that buy into the myth of chiropractors as primary medical caregivers. You are hitting on many of the same unsubstantiated talking points that for profit chiropractors use to sell books and sell treatments with little to no proof of effectiveness.

So that is what I am left with.


Who is we?

Author:  Brick [ Sat Feb 07, 2015 2:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vaccines (Right and wrong side of history)

Seacrest wrote:
Who is we?
People who know what they are talking about.

Author:  Seacrest [ Sat Feb 07, 2015 2:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vaccines (Right and wrong side of history)

spanky wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
spanky wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
Parents are given the information that there are children in their kids class that have not been vaccinated.

Not in any district that I know of. That would be a violation of HIPPA.

The district can post the number of kids in the district that are enrolled that are not vaccinated in the whole district, but nothing is required about specific school, grade level, classroom, etc.

In the event of an "outbreak", it can be easily figured out who is non-vaccinated because all non-vax are required to be held out of school for 21 days, where as others would be held out for only 5 days. But I suppose at that point it wouldn't matter.


They are told they are in the class in the two private schools are son as attended.

They were not told who they are.

They are required to be held out of school for 21 days.

Ah. I didn't realize you were talking private school.



We were not even asked about it in the public school.

We turned in our form and it never came up again.


\

Author:  spanky [ Sat Feb 07, 2015 7:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vaccines (Right and wrong side of history)

Seacrest wrote:
We were not even asked about it in the public school.

We turned in our form and it never came up again.

Because it would be a HIPPA violation

Author:  Chus [ Fri Feb 13, 2015 5:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vaccines (Right and wrong side of history)

DERP

Author:  Douchebag [ Fri Feb 13, 2015 5:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vaccines (Right and wrong side of history)

Quote:
“I’m not a scientist. I’m not a practicing doctor. But I haven’t seen any evidence that shows vaccines make us healthier, and I haven’t seen proof that they don’t make us less healthier, less healthy, either,” Ernst replied. “All I can base my opinion on is my own observations, and in my view, Senator Paul is correct. Vaccines are dangerous. They manipulate brains. And I think Congress should investigate vaccines and outlaw them, because they definitely, you know, they make people vote a certain way, and that’s voter intimidation.”

:lol: :lol:

Author:  Chus [ Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vaccines (Right and wrong side of history)

Douchebag wrote:
Quote:
“I’m not a scientist. I’m not a practicing doctor. But I haven’t seen any evidence that shows vaccines make us healthier, and I haven’t seen proof that they don’t make us less healthier, less healthy, either,” Ernst replied. “All I can base my opinion on is my own observations, and in my view, Senator Paul is correct. Vaccines are dangerous. They manipulate brains. And I think Congress should investigate vaccines and outlaw them, because they definitely, you know, they make people vote a certain way, and that’s voter intimidation.”

:lol: :lol:


I had to make sure it wasn't from the Onion.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vaccines (Right and wrong side of history)

National Report is also satire. Unfortunately, it's a believable headline.

Author:  Chus [ Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vaccines (Right and wrong side of history)

Curious Hair wrote:
Unfortunately, it's a believable headline.


That's what is so sad about her, and the goofballs that have hijacked the Republican party. Rand Paul did say that vaccines cause mental disorders.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vaccines (Right and wrong side of history)

Whatever, it's only one of the greatest achievements in the history of medicine.

Author:  Darkside [ Fri Feb 13, 2015 8:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vaccines (Right and wrong side of history)

Chus wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
Quote:
“I’m not a scientist. I’m not a practicing doctor. But I haven’t seen any evidence that shows vaccines make us healthier, and I haven’t seen proof that they don’t make us less healthier, less healthy, either,” Ernst replied. “All I can base my opinion on is my own observations, and in my view, Senator Paul is correct. Vaccines are dangerous. They manipulate brains. And I think Congress should investigate vaccines and outlaw them, because they definitely, you know, they make people vote a certain way, and that’s voter intimidation.”

:lol: :lol:


I had to make sure it wasn't from the Onion.

Wow. That is INSANE. Is that from Seacrest's Chiropractor?

Author:  Chus [ Fri Feb 13, 2015 8:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vaccines (Right and wrong side of history)

Darkside wrote:
Chus wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
Quote:
“I’m not a scientist. I’m not a practicing doctor. But I haven’t seen any evidence that shows vaccines make us healthier, and I haven’t seen proof that they don’t make us less healthier, less healthy, either,” Ernst replied. “All I can base my opinion on is my own observations, and in my view, Senator Paul is correct. Vaccines are dangerous. They manipulate brains. And I think Congress should investigate vaccines and outlaw them, because they definitely, you know, they make people vote a certain way, and that’s voter intimidation.”

:lol: :lol:


I had to make sure it wasn't from the Onion.

Wow. That is INSANE. Is that from Seacrest's Chiropractor?


It's from a satirical website, but who could tell the difference?

Page 36 of 48 All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
https://www.phpbb.com/