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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 11:48 am 
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Cruz came very close to winning the nomination.


No closer than Bernie did on the Democratic side. Trump destroyed the field.

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Cruz came very close to winning the nomination.


No closer than Bernie did on the Democratic side. Trump destroyed the field.


That's still different. We're talking about evangelicals throwing their seemingly prototypical candidate to the side in order to select Trump. That didn't happen though because Cruz beat Rubio, Bush, Kasich, etc., which demonstrates that a ton of people, and presumably a ton of evangelicals, voted for the evangelical candidate. Sanders isn't an apt comparison because the Dems we're locked in a two person race from the beginning almost. Cruz had to knock off several legitimate candidates.

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 Post subject: Re: Liberty University
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Ted Cruz is a terrible human being. Evangelicals recognized this.


No, they did not.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/pew-p ... ts-160718/

The poll released Friday shows that 41 percent of white evangelical Protestant Republican voters back Cruz, compared with 38-percent support for Trump. And 44 percent of Republican voters who regularly attend religious services are likely to back Cruz, while Trump has the backing of only 29 percent in this category.

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 Post subject: Re: Liberty University
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Sanders isn't an apt comparison because the Dems we're locked in a two person race from the beginning almost. Cruz had to knock off several legitimate candidates.

How many candidates did Cruz himself "knock off"? Jeb and Rubio were express casualties of the Trump campaign. Cruz hung around till the bitter end like the human cockroach he is but I wouldn't credit him with dispatching anyone.

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 Post subject: Re: Liberty University
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Hypocrites of the highest order. I do not ever again want to hear about their political affiliations being tied entirely to morality and religious doctrine.



I remember when you complained about Notre Dame's speakers as well.


So I am consistent

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 Post subject: Re: Liberty University
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Sanders isn't an apt comparison because the Dems we're locked in a two person race from the beginning almost. Cruz had to knock off several legitimate candidates.

How many candidates did Cruz himself "knock off"? Jeb and Rubio were express casualties of the Trump campaign. Cruz hung around till the bitter end like the human cockroach he is but I wouldn't credit him with dispatching anyone.


I'd have to refresh my memory but I thought it was clear that Cruz's "ground game" outpaced that of Rubio's, and that as Cruz racked up wins or second place finishes it became clear that he was having the type of campaign people thought/expected Rubio would have. Some of that may be attributed to other establishment-friendly candidates creating a void for Trump and/or Cruz to fill by splitting the vote among themselves. That being said, my main point here was to disagree with CoF and others who say evangelicals rejected Cruz - the second-place finish seems to suggest otherwise, though I don't have the numbers/exit polls in front of me.

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 Post subject: Re: Liberty University
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Seacrest wrote:
This all I could find...

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It's cute that dolphin thinks he's Mother Theresa because he got lost once on the way home from a Notre Dame game.


I've been here a long time and memory fades. I do think there was a discussion one time about ND speakers. I don't think it was a commencement speech but I think there was something controversial in the last few years.

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The people who don't understand why Evangelicals voted for Trump are missing the point. The point was that Hillary Clinton was going to nominate a leftist to the Supreme Court and that could basically ruin the country for a generation. There are a lot more reasons why Trump was better than Hillary, but that was the biggest one. I wonder if the liberal people here just don't get that a third term of Obama would have pretty much ruined the country.

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The people who don't understand why Evangelicals voted for Trump are missing the point. The point was that Hillary Clinton was going to nominate a leftist to the Supreme Court and that could basically ruin the country for a generation. There are a lot more reasons why Trump was better than Hillary, but that was the biggest one. I wonder if the liberal people here just don't get that a third term of Obama would have pretty much ruined the country.

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Drake LaRrieta wrote:
people here just don't get that a third term of Obama would have pretty much ruined the country.


That's actually a strong point. Never thought of it that way.

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Drake LaRrieta wrote:
The people who don't understand why Evangelicals voted for Trump are missing the point. The point was that Hillary Clinton was going to nominate a leftist to the Supreme Court and that could basically ruin the country for a generation. There are a lot more reasons why Trump was better than Hillary, but that was the biggest one. I wonder if the liberal people here just don't get that a third term of Obama would have pretty much ruined the country.


They didn't cry over holding up Obama's centrist choice.

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Drake LaRrieta wrote:
The people who don't understand why Evangelicals voted for Trump are missing the point. The point was that Hillary Clinton was going to nominate a leftist to the Supreme Court and that could basically ruin the country for a generation. There are a lot more reasons why Trump was better than Hillary, but that was the biggest one. I wonder if the liberal people here just don't get that a third term of Obama would have pretty much ruined the country.



As I've gotten older, I like to think I've become more tolerant of other viewpoints, but this is just too much. How do you even manage to turn on a computer?

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Drake LaRrieta wrote:
The people who don't understand why Evangelicals voted for Trump are missing the point. The point was that Hillary Clinton was going to nominate a leftist to the Supreme Court and that could basically ruin the country for a generation. There are a lot more reasons why Trump was better than Hillary, but that was the biggest one. I wonder if the liberal people here just don't get that a third term of Obama would have pretty much ruined the country.



As I've gotten older, I like to think I've become more tolerant of other viewpoints, but this is just too much. How do you even manage to turn on a computer?


There isn't a doubt in my mind that his IQ is south of 100. His next original thought will be his first.

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Drake LaRrieta wrote:
The people who don't understand why Evangelicals voted for Trump are missing the point. The point was that Hillary Clinton was going to nominate a leftist to the Supreme Court and that could basically ruin the country for a generation. There are a lot more reasons why Trump was better than Hillary, but that was the biggest one. I wonder if the liberal people here just don't get that a third term of Obama would have pretty much ruined the country.



As I've gotten older, I like to think I've become more tolerant of other viewpoints, but this is just too much. How do you even manage to turn on a computer?


I think the goal is for him to turn it off.

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good dolphin wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
This all I could find...

leashyourkids wrote:
It's cute that dolphin thinks he's Mother Theresa because he got lost once on the way home from a Notre Dame game.


I've been here a long time and memory fades. I do think there was a discussion one time about ND speakers. I don't think it was a commencement speech but I think there was something controversial in the last few years.


So what were your thoughts on ND's speakers?

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good dolphin wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
This all I could find...

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It's cute that dolphin thinks he's Mother Theresa because he got lost once on the way home from a Notre Dame game.


I've been here a long time and memory fades. I do think there was a discussion one time about ND speakers. I don't think it was a commencement speech but I think there was something controversial in the last few years.


So what were your thoughts on ND's speakers?


Was Obama promoting abortions at the Grotto?

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Seacrest wrote:
This all I could find...

leashyourkids wrote:
It's cute that dolphin thinks he's Mother Theresa because he got lost once on the way home from a Notre Dame game.


I've been here a long time and memory fades. I do think there was a discussion one time about ND speakers. I don't think it was a commencement speech but I think there was something controversial in the last few years.


So what were your thoughts on ND's speakers?


Was Obama promoting abortions at the Grotto?


He'll do that anywhere.

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Seacrest wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
This all I could find...

leashyourkids wrote:
It's cute that dolphin thinks he's Mother Theresa because he got lost once on the way home from a Notre Dame game.


I've been here a long time and memory fades. I do think there was a discussion one time about ND speakers. I don't think it was a commencement speech but I think there was something controversial in the last few years.


So what were your thoughts on ND's speakers?


Was Obama promoting abortions at the Grotto?


He'll do that anywhere.


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Was Obama promoting abortions at the Grotto?


He'll do that anywhere.


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Bless you for referencing that abortion in this thread.

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The people who don't understand why Evangelicals voted for Trump are missing the point. The point was that Hillary Clinton was going to nominate a leftist to the Supreme Court and that could basically ruin the country for a generation. There are a lot more reasons why Trump was better than Hillary, but that was the biggest one. I wonder if the liberal people here just don't get that a third term of Obama would have pretty much ruined the country.

I can't stand Hillary and would welcome a third Obama term. It was a good 8 years.

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Chus wrote:
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Was Obama promoting abortions at the Grotto?


He'll do that anywhere.


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:lol:

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This all I could find...

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It's cute that dolphin thinks he's Mother Theresa because he got lost once on the way home from a Notre Dame game.


I've been here a long time and memory fades. I do think there was a discussion one time about ND speakers. I don't think it was a commencement speech but I think there was something controversial in the last few years.


So what were your thoughts on ND's speakers?


Which one?

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I can't stand Hillary and would welcome a third Obama term. It was a good 8 years.


Speak for yourself, please.


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I can't stand Hillary and would welcome a third Obama term. It was a good 8 years.


Speak for yourself, please.

Well...you see...


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I can't stand Hillary and would welcome a third Obama term. It was a good 8 years.


Speak for yourself, please.

Well...you see...


:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I can't stand Hillary and would welcome a third Obama term. It was a good 8 years.


Speak for yourself, please.

Well...you see...

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