States attorney approved the dropping of murder charges so this lady gets probation.

Woman Who Tossed Her Newborn Baby From 8th Floor Gets Probation; State Drops All Murder Charges
Uddin admitted to dropping her newborn from an 8th-floor window of the building at right, police said.

Mubashra Uddin had been charged with four counts of murder for allegedly killing the baby girl moments after giving birth in her family's apartment.

But prosecutors last week agreed to drop three of those charges and then reduced the fourth murder count to involuntary manslaughter of a family member. Judge Carol M. Howard handed down a sentence of probation.

Uddin was 19 when she gave birth around 11:20 p.m. on November 11, 2015, in a bedroom of an apartment she shared with her parents and sister. Police said they recovered scissors that Uddin used to cut the umbilical cord after giving birth in the same bed where her 11-year-old sister was sleeping.

Fearing that her strict parents were about to discover the pregnancy that she had kept secret from them, Uddin dropped the newborn headfirst out of her 8th-floor bedroom window in the 800 block of West Eastwood.

The girl was discovered about 30 minutes later lying in some grass by a passer-by. One hour later, she succumbed to her injuries, which included skull fractures, a broken spine, multiple broken bones, and internal injuries, prosecutors said.

Friends rallied around Uddin from the moment of her arrest, blaming her actions on the young woman’s upbringing in a strict Muslim family.

At Uddin’s bail hearing, her boyfriend’s mother told DNAInfo “No one is mad or upset [at Uddin] because we all know the household that she's coming from."

"With all her family has put her through, I'm surprised she didn't jump out of the window herself,” the mother said to the Tribune.

How harsh should punishment really be though when it would be perfectly legal to have a "doctor" kill the baby an hour earlier?

How harsh should punishment really be though when it would be perfectly legal to have a "doctor" kill the baby an hour earlier?

Did she have the baby really early? I don't think bad or really strict parents is an excuse for throwing a baby out of a window.

To be fair , usually the bath water goes out first .

Did she have the baby really early? I don't think bad or really strict parents is an excuse for throwing a baby out of a window.

To be fair , usually the bath water goes out first .

I think this happens a lot. Parents who terrorize their children + children who have anxiety disorders and can't deal with the guilt or fear = this kind of behavior. That entire family needs treatment.

I sympathize with the mother of the baby. But she needs some sort of punishment beyond a black mark on her record.

?? an hour earlier? Perfectly legal?

I don't sympathize with her. I understand what you're saying but I don't feel sorry for her in any way.

Hmmm....yeah, I guess I do sympathize with her (if she's telling the truth). I was gonna back away from it, but maybe I'll change that to empathize. I sympathize with the baby.

I wish the nineteen year-old had good parents who could have helped her out rather than pushing (albeit indirectly) her to this. Now they have two generations of backwards parents in one house (if the daughter was telling the truth).

Definitely not an excuse, I agree. It does explain, though, why someone would do such a thing. Anxiety and fear will make you do strange things.

I understand. There should be some punishment for illegally murdering a baby though. Even if it isn't prison.

Well, if you look at her crime within the context of our societal norms, it's difficult for me to judge her too harshly.

I think this is an issue you and I agree on though we're coming at it from different perspectives, you being religious. I know it's a complicated issue but it's why abortion is a slippery slope, especially when there are no limits.

Well, if you look at her crime within the context of our societal norms, it's difficult for me to judge her too harshly.

I think this is an issue you and I agree on though we're coming at it from different perspectives, you being religious. I know it's a complicated issue but it's why abortion is a slippery slope, especially when there are no limits.

Yes. Perfectly legal.

When i was 18 my girlfriend and I were pretty sure I snuck one by the goalie but it was either a false alarm or she lost it very early. I was terrified at the time because I lived in fear of disappointing my parents. In retrospect I decided that they would not of murdered me, kicked me out or really done anything but push me to grow up in that situation. In later years I talked to my mom about it in a hypothetical situation conversation and she was stunned that I grew up worried about things like that. I laughed and told her yep, welcome to the anxiety mind that keeps me up at night. My folks did nothing to make me feel this way (Although did little to make me not) so I can only imagine what a fundamentalist environment would have done to me. I'm guessing it would have been avoidance and running as that seems more me.

There are limits. What are you talking about?

I don't want to hear another fucking word from any of the "well she DID have really strict parents" crowd when some dude gets probation for raping someone or punching some mouthy douche canoe right up in the orbital bone. This woman acted with the specific intent to deprive a born human child of life. You go to fucking prison for that.

Can you expound? Seriously. What am I missing? This happened in Chicago / United States right? I see you put "doctor" in quotes, but I am not catching the gist of your statement.

It's legal in IL to kill a baby up until they are born.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... te/448098/

I am not trying to debate abortion here, but simply wondering how that issue will be viewed in say 200 years.