Ok what ethnic connection does Ivanka Trump have with Jewish people?

I can find countless others that have no "ancestral" connection to that part of the world whatsoever.

Uh oh. Ltg is about to kick most of us out of our ethnic groups.

MANY were never in them to begin with

https://youtu.be/-Fju4UajL7g

Your criteria really doesn't make sense. My grandparents had to flee their "ancestral home" and come to America. Does that mean my mom and me aren't also part of that ethnicity because we have no connection to it?

The "Ancestral home" of MANY Jews isn't the Middle East or the land in which Israel is located. Judaism is a religion and not a nationality or ethnicity. There are millions of Jewish people that have no connection to Israel because their ancestral heritage has no connection to Israel. When Hitler committed atrocities against Jewish people he first began with German Jews. They were German not Middle Eastern. How can anyone suggest that this group is more entitled to land located in the Middle East than native Middle Easterners. Israeli laws say that they are.

It was a while back that I had asked similar questions albeit just to satisfy my curiosity. I did not really understand why people always say they are Jewish rather than German, Polish, Russian, Israeli etc. CH replied to me that it was largely due to there only being a couple strains of Jewish types in total and mainly the ones in American actually are almost all of a certain type from Europe.

I am sure I butchered that but maybe Ch can again lay that out and it may help JLN here? The only other thing I thing he is trying to get at is converts and that makes no sense to me in this discussion.

Well, no country is "entitled" to any land. They have to claim it and keep it. That's the history of the world before and after Israel was created. If we are redrawing borders based on "Who was there first" then the map changes drastically and the Jews get huge portions of land too.

The larger point though is that it is a convienient but illogical excuse to say that the Jews have no claims to the area. They have a claim as good as any since they've been there for millenniums, were forcibly removed multiple times, and have a recorded history showing their prominence in the area. You can't say "Jews weren't the majority in 1920" and act like 1920 is some magic time in history where that matters more than 1,000 years prior or 1,000 years in the future.

Yes it does if you are questioning someone's "legitimacy" Jorr Brick and Ogie have all questioned the use of the term Palestinian. To me that makes no sense because they are still Arabs. Native born Arabs have no right to the land but Jewish people of Eastern European descent do?

Well, no country is "entitled" to any land. They have to claim it and keep it. That's the history of the world before and after Israel was created. If we are redrawing borders based on "Who was there first" then the map changes drastically and the Jews get huge portions of land too.

The larger point though is that it is a convienient but illogical excuse to say that the Jews have no claims to the area. They have a claim as good as any since they've been there for millenniums, were forcibly removed multiple times, and have a recorded history showing their prominence in the area. You can't say "Jews weren't the majority in 1920" and act like 1920 is some magic time in history where that matters more than 1,000 years prior or 1,000 years in the future.

From what I understand, the concept of Palestinians as anything more than a description of where people live(like Chicagoans or New Yorkers) did not happen until Israel was created as a way to have an "oppressed" people that should have their own country even though they had no desire for one prior to that since they didn't really exist. There were Palestinian Christians, Jews, and Muslims in the area. That is why it should be questioned. These same "Palestinians" had no desire to form a country prior to Israel. Doesn't that seem a little bit strange?

Jews weren't the majority for almost two thousand years, and they weren't forcibly removed. They lost wars. They weren't suddenly shipped to Europe in shipping containers.

Anyway, who cares? Two state solution.

The term Palestinians was coined during Ancient Greece. Jerusalem's major newspaper in the 1930s was called the Palestine Post.

I'm still trying to figure out if Hillary is Jewish?

:| This place need a politics section.

Yes it does if you are questioning someone's "legitimacy" Jorr Brick and Ogie have all questioned the use of the term Palestinian. To me that makes no sense because they are still Arabs. Native born Arabs have no right to the land but Jewish people of Eastern European descent do?

Do you navigate by section?

I use View active topics, so what section it is doesn't really make a difference.

The term Palestinians was coined during Ancient Greece. Jerusalem's major newspaper in the 1930s was called the Palestine Post.

don't jews have some common genes that cause rare diseases and stuff?