Lmao

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But we need people to feel safe! I laugh when shit gets heated in a facebook group and someone says "I feel unsafe right now." No you don't! You're just talking to people online! Go offline! You're safe!

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what?

It's bad with the leftbook groups. Lots of reasons to "feel unsafe" there.

I'm a millennial by age (though my music tastes are definitely more gen-X) but one who grew up with the social aspect of the internet not as a fact of everyone's daily life but as an underground hive of freaks and assholes. That's a hard cultural gap to bridge -- it's always been once removed from Real Life in some sense, kind of a performance art. I guess I can't relate to real-life consequences of people talking about stuff online around me.

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I think it is the hypocrisy that makes this interesting. Bernstein's self-righteousness over everything and then getting caught in Boobgate is what made it outrageous. Now, it's Spain with sexist tweets against other women from a few years ago, yet she is an evolved feminist (I'll leave out how she used her looks to get her job in the first). DiCaro with her sexist "hot athlete" website now looks foolish when she derides some man for saying Anna Kournikova is hot. Bill O'Reilly was a "family values" preacher, until he was caught.

In other words, it's news when 90 year old Bush grabs a butt, but it's not when the late Hugh Hefner did--one seems like a hypocrite, the other just doing what we expect him to do.

I think what has changed with social media is that the left are now getting caught as much as the right. And to PittMike's point, they created this monster--a "gotcha" news cycle that they now can't run from.

As evidence, compare the "free pass" that Bill Clinton got when he was accused of rape (and whom DiCaro still adores) with the lambasting that Harvey Weinstein is getting. The difference is that with social media, the media can't control the story like they used to.

What?

The Clinton scandal was literally a top story every night on the news for 2-3 years. People will be saying "Who is Harvey Weinstein?" in 3-4 months.

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Do they "feel unsafe" because someone they are arguing with physically threatened them, or because they are hearing an opinion they don't like?

I assume it's the latter but can't wrap my head around how that can make a person feel unsafe. At this point I'm not surprised people say that, it just seems preposterous to me.

Im doing my best to not be a "back in my day" kind of guy. I really am, but man do some of these kids make it difficult.

I just imagine a WW2 or Vietnam Vet when I hear that.

It was basically responsible for the advent of cable news as we know it.

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the character of cable news today, or the extent of it? I thought the first Gulf War, under ass-grabber in chief HW, was when CNN took off in ratings/viewership.

Gulf War
OJ
Lewisnki

The tabloidization aspect.

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It's not explicit physical threats, no. But I guess if a conversation gets too heated, oppressed/marginalized people can feel a lot of anxiety. I don't know. I can't relate.

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I agree that this was on the news every night. But, the victims (Paula Jones, Juanita Brodderick, etc.) were not to be believed. The story was Lewinsky, which was consensual. That's not what I'm referring to.

I'm referring to the women that accused him of rape. They were discredited by the media. That would not happen today. In today's world--social media would give them power they did not have back then.

In fact, Hillary got caught in this hypocrisy when she stated that "all victims should be believed," and then it was pointed out that she didn't feel that way about Bill's accusers.

With all of those rape accusations, Bill would not be a viable candidate, or would have been forced to resign, in today's environment.

90's were good to CNN; this Weinstein thing doesn't have anywhere near the legs of those big 3. And who wants to sit around listening to/watching people talk about some toad-ish looking dude groping chicks.

"Cable news as we know it" has been through several iterations, though, hasn't it? We didn't really have the three-headed monster until after 9/11 (Fox News and MSNBC were around before but not terribly relevant), and MSNBC didn't find its niche as Liberal Fox News until around 2006-2007.

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It's the death of shame, too.

Overall, that's a good thing. I mean people shouldn't be basketcases worried about what everyone thinks. But on the other hand....there's openly telling people about not feeling safe in a chat room.

MSNBC owes Trump a thank you tanning gift-certificate. The network looked close to being relegated, perennial 3rd place in the ratings. And now Maddow has the No 1 cable news show and MSNBC has leapfrogged CNN to 2nd place behind Fox News.

True. Although you could probably apply that to many ex President's up against today's scrutiny.

I mean, LBJ allegedly pulled his cock out in front of a reporter.

Male or female?

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Don't think they let women be reporters back then, but even if it were a man, if it happens today....big issue.

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Look. At. His. Body.

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LBJ pulled his cock out in front of everyone. One time he pissed in the middle of a parking lot while a woman was standing right there.

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Agreed. But unlike most, the Clintons are still around, and dare I say “relevant?”

I do not know who this person is but I couldn't agree more.

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You can say I was very much against Bernstein. You cannot accurately say I am one of the villagers with torches against JDC, Spain or anyone else.

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Even with that though the "media" controlled what we knew regarding all of that. We now know more about Clinton than we knew then. It is no longer controlled the way it once was.

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Some libertarian with a rich dad. She's usually eye-poppingly stupid.

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