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 Post subject: Re: GMO Opponents
PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:28 pm 
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What exactly is Daniels whining about? I believe that almost all of the corn & soybeans grown in the US are already GMO (and have been for awhile), which means that almost all of the food consumed in the US already contains GMO ingredients to some extent. And who is preventing Africans from eating GMO food? He sounds like a drunken moron.

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I'm not sure that science saw this coming.

https://www.livescience.com/20532-birth ... ution.html

https://www.globalresearch.ca/death-and ... es/5375684

Bee populations rose in the US last year though.
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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The organic food industry have billions more on revenue per year than Monsanto. If GMO's are truly unsafe, then surely they can fund an experiment... oh wait, they already know that no experiment can or will prove their hypothesis.


I think MANY of the issues people have come from, as others said earlier in the thread, having no idea of the long-term effects from eating GMO food.

And that is not something that can be known (by BOTH SIDES) for MANY years.

I'm with Reader, JORR, and Crest in that I'm not inherently against GMOs and they are definitely helping feed a starving world. But I do not trust anyone who at this point says there are no long term negative effects.

I don't think that's fair. I mean, it's still theoretically possible that the Earth doesn't rotate around the Sun. That doesn't mean that we should think there is a plausible reason to believe that the Sun revolves around the Earth or even that it's enough of a concern to worry about in a non-scientific discovery manner. Now, that's admittedly an extreme example but it's 100% true.

If we stopped all progress based on the non quantifiable chance that "Well, maybe we are wrong" then we'd slow progress to a virtual halt. That's why you go by the current best knowledge we have and continue to study it to get even more confident that we are on the right path.

As I said before, the main complaint about GMO's seems to be the seeds with pesticides built in. Now, that does sound scary, but it's just as scary what we spray onto the food we eat(including many organics). I think if anything we'll look back on pesticides as the issue much more than the idea of GMO's and a currently completely unknown negative health effect down the line.


It is fair though. We don't know what the long term effects will be. What happens when all the corn on earth has pesticides built in and the pests have built up a tolerance to Bt? I don't think it would take much for man to create his own famine. What if we kill all the bees?


Do some searches, there are incidences of pests becoming resistant to bt corn. And round up resistant weeds are becoming a significant problem. The new wonder herbicide resistant soybeans with dicamba apear to be having drift problems and at least one study has water hemp and other amaranths developing resistant strains within 2-3 generations. The gmo to increase water efficiency and nutrient content to me have always seemed a fantastic idea to me. The ones with weed and pest control are going to struggle with certain weeds and pests for a number of reasons.


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Drunk Squirrel wrote:
Yes.


Do you grow GMO stuff then?

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What exactly is Daniels whining about? I believe that almost all of the corn & soybeans grown in the US are already GMO (and have been for awhile), which means that almost all of the food consumed in the US already contains GMO ingredients to some extent. And who is preventing Africans from eating GMO food? He sounds like a drunken moron.

shhhh. Don't tell anybody.

there are people who would gladly take those modified crops away from places like Africa in the name of "oversight".

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Do you grow GMO stuff then?


Family does but I do not anymore. Export market was better for human grade non gmo corn and the variety preferred my soil type.


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Yes.


Do you grow GMO stuff then?


Family does but I do not anymore. Export market was better for human grade non gmo corn and the variety preferred my soil type.


Well then. You're immoral. And so is your soil. Happy New Year.

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Drunk Squirrel wrote:
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Yes.


Do you grow GMO stuff then?


Family does but I do not anymore. Export market was better for human grade non gmo corn and the variety preferred my soil type.


Farming is so different then when my Grandpa did it.

Good for you for sticking with it. My wife's family has 500 acres no one will take for free.

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DannyB wrote:
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Drunk Squirrel wrote:
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Do you grow GMO stuff then?


Family does but I do not anymore. Export market was better for human grade non gmo corn and the variety preferred my soil type.


Well then. You're immoral. And so is your soil. Happy New Year.

You must’ve really struggled with this thread if that’s your takeaway.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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I'm not sure that science saw this coming.

https://www.livescience.com/20532-birth ... ution.html

https://www.globalresearch.ca/death-and ... es/5375684

Bee populations rose in the US last year though.
Good random links.

Great random links by Seacrest today!

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
I'm not sure that science saw this coming.

https://www.livescience.com/20532-birth ... ution.html

https://www.globalresearch.ca/death-and ... es/5375684

Bee populations rose in the US last year though.
Good random links.

Great random links by Seacrest today!


Great thread today.

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