Are you serious?

Whoever wrote that kept repeating that he doesn’t know anything, and the one parallel he drew was to Pederson, one of the top candidates for coach of the year this year.

I think it's questionable how much of an impact he had on the Chiefs offense given that he started playcalling in week 13, and seemingly their is visual proof of Reid still calling plays.

So when we thought he called the wildcard game, it was concerning since they blew it and got shutout in the second half. Now that there is visual evidence to the contrary, it’s also concerning because he didn’t call plays.

Your concern troll game is strong.

So when we thought he called the wildcard game, it was concerning since they blew it and got shutout in the second half. Now that there is visual evidence to the contrary, it’s also concerning because he didn’t call plays.

Your concern troll game is strong.

Intentionally not understanding the point here.

It's concerning if Andy Reid, who trusted him enough to call plays, did not trust him enough to call plays in the playoffs. It could be that he actually just wanted to try and do a good worker for him a solid by making him a "playcaller" late in the year to help with his job search.

It's pretty amazing that you seem to be the most sensitive to "How can you question anything about this hire?" when you aren't even a Bears fan and would be very happy if they went 0-16 every year.

Intentionally not understanding the point here.

I'm not being sensitive. You're just making a very poor case.

The bold part is not concerning. The underlined part also applied to one of the best head coaches in the NFL this season last year.

So, Andy Reid, that publicly handed over playcalling to Nagy in week 13, may have stripped him of it in week 18. No reason to find that slightly concerning?

I don't think so. It makes sense to me that a head coach, especially one as established and successful as Reid, would want to resume more control in the most important game of the season. Considering the Chiefs results from Week 13-17 were very strong, it clearly could not have been an indictment of Nagy.

Either way, I think many people are grasping at straws either way on this. I don't think they had a realistic shot at McDaniels, and even if they did, no candidate out there is anything close to a sure bet. All the candidates were mostly unknowns or had questions about them in some way. I just don't think any of us know enough about the behind the scenes of the league to have a strong, qualified opinion on this. Seems like an alright hire to me. Doesn't to you. We'll see.

People thought Mike McCarthy was a shit hire back in 2005. It was blasted in league circles.

Yeah, every candidate is underwhelming. Defillipo for obvious reasons and McDaniels, the consensus best candidate, has a resume that can very easily be picked apart.

Nagy seems as good as any. Certainly better than the last two Bear hires. I don't get the consternation.

People were right. He's the luckiest coach in the history of sports.

McDaniels would not be underwhelming. The Patriots want him to take over for Belichick. The issue is when that would be and if he wants to wait around.

DeFillipo has a much better resume. Oh, and it looks like DeFillipo has a year of NFL playcalling experience, though it was the Browns but they don't really count.

I’m wondering if Pederson’s success is inspiring a bit more confidence in Nagy.

I think it's more about leading men. You can have the vision but if you can't get guys to fall in line then you'll lose the locker room. Does he have that? We don't know. That's the first thing a coach must have. If you don't have that then you've got a Marc Trestman situation.

I’m wondering if Pederson’s success is inspiring a bit more confidence in Nagy.

I'd say Belichick's success is likewise a reason for optimism. Like Belichick, Nagy was born in the month of April, so I think that's definitely a good sign Ryan Pace got this one right.

To be clear, you’re equating being born in the same month with coming from the same coaching tree/having the same offensive philosophy/pedigree?

If the criticism of Nagy is that he’s Andy Reid Lite, this is fair to present as a counter.

I'm comparing a somewhat ridiculous extrapolation with a completely ridiculous one. This likewise holds for the notion that Nagy might be good because he's under the age of 40 just like Sean McVey. Pederson's success says next to nothing about whether Nagy was the right hire or not and it would be absurd to lean on it as any kind of criterion for the hire.

It's funny, I literally said to the people I was watching Eagles-Vikings with that I couldn't wait for the hot takes from Bears fans that Pederson's success would be used to bolster the case that Nagy is a good hire. Little did I know I'd actually first encounter it from a Packers fan trying to concern troll Bears fans instead

I’m wondering if Pederson’s success is inspiring a bit more confidence in Nagy.

It's clearly a good sign and maybe the first positive sign for Nagy.

You ready to declare that Nagy will be a success?

No. I said I like the hire but I think Mitch sucks so he has a tough road ahead.

If you think Mitch sucks then why have you defended Pace for months? If Mitch sucks then Pace has failed.