Nas wrote:
NWsider4-3-3 wrote:
Nas wrote:
NWsider4-3-3 wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
I don’t necessarily disagree, but I do think left wing types tend to argue right/wrong around topics that conservatives look at through a pro/con lens (tax policy, immigration, etc.). That’s not to say conservatives never moralize - obviously they do. But there’s a difference in saying something is morally wrong and saying the policies you support have more negatives than positives.
i think that sums it up well. the pro-illegal immigration arguments go beyond absurdity.
Ignoring the moral arguments on illegal immigration, I think MANY conservatives understand the pro/con arguments because they are the ones who hire and profit from their cheap labor. They hate illegal immigrants, but love paying them half of the minimum wage.
many conservatives? no. the 1%ers, corporate farms and slaughter-houses. the insurance companies, who profit from them having drivers licenses and these new drivers 'must' purchase insurance.
and i thought all biden voters had stock in exxon mobil because joe wanted to crimp oil production behind the facade of caring about the environment. you must believe that all republicans are worth at least $10 million.
when i first started voting, the democratic party was firmly anti-illegal immigrant. what happened?
"They" didn't mean blue collar Republicans. They was about the wealthy Republicans who simultaneously profit from illegal immigration AND politically oppose it with strong rhetoric. They are the folks behind the marketing campaign that has MANY hating Hispanics.
Biden hasn't tried to slow oil production. He pushed out oil from our strategic reserves. Oil production was destroyed when the economy shutdown in 2020. Oil producers had to pay to get rid of their product. They recouped their losses over the past year after getting bailed out by President Trump.
ok. if profit for a tiny percentage of wealthy repubs was the motivator for repub politicians turning their heads away from illegal immigration, what is the democratic party motivator in favor of illegal immigration? an estimated 5.5 million illegals allowed in this nation since biden took office. there has to be a motivator? is it for altruistic reasons as antioch says? remember, even the UN says that economic gain is not sufficient for requesting asylum from any nation.
hating hispanics? i see the democratic party launch a campaign of telling me that i'm hateful if i oppose illegal immigration. meanwhile, millions of africans, europeans and asians have to stand in line, pay money, take physicals and/or win a visa lottery to come here, legally. why is there a different criteria for those unlucky enough to be born in the wrong hemisphere?
you haven't answered the question as to why the democrats encourage illegal immigration. is it to also exploit cheap labor? is it because they 'care'?
as far as oil, if you believe releasing oil from the strategic reserves (must be replaced) boosted production, not sure how anyone could answer that....more than a few energy analysts will tell you to expect oil to be in the $110s-$120/bbl this year. yes, the american economy has shrunk and will further shrink, but, china is coming back on. i hope oil stays down, but, not at the expense of the american economy.
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