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Author:  Darkside [ Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:01 pm ]
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Race baiting asswipe.
Claims that Todd Strogers budget would pass if he were white...
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/670253,CST-NWS-county28.article
Cook County Board President Todd Stroger can't get his budget passed "because he's black," his floor leader angrily charged Tuesday.

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Commissioner William Beavers said "if Todd was a white man, he wouldn't have half these problems," further alleging "this is a remake of the Harold Washington days" at City Hall, where racially fueled votes often ended in 29-21 decisions.
"Who's gonna control the county -- white or black -- that's all this is," he said.
Beavers railed on that one of Stroger's top critics, Commissioner Tony Peraica, "hates everybody who's black ... all black elected officials," going on to say Peraica used to beat up black people growing up in the Bridgeport neighborhood
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Look asshole, the budget isn't passing because Todd created a huge mess with his 8th Ward patronage and that is a damn good reason why the expenses are so high. The INTELLEGENT menbers of the county board know that it's gonna be political suicide to vote for an 11% sales tax, the businesses will do everything in their power to remove commissioners who vote for this becasue they rightly know that this is terrible for their business.
Beavers, you are out of line for calling Peraica a racist. That word is thrown around way too damn much. It creates resentment, and propegates racism. What are we doing here? Why create race wars?
I am tired of hearing claims like this.
Author:  good dolphin [ Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:35 pm ]
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Racial politics seem to be making a strong return this election season. It will be even more apparent in the run for State's Attorney.
Author:  Darkside [ Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:35 pm ]
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Well, if you're gonna vote for me being a douchebag, you might as well state your case?
Author:  Darkside [ Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:52 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
I did it just to fuck with you.

Well that's a good reason.
Author:  Evergreen Tommy [ Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:07 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
I did it just to fuck with you.


As did I :wink:
Author:  Killer V [ Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:10 pm ]
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This was my favorite part of the story:

Sun-Times Article wrote:
When commissioners voted to make cuts to county Recorder Gene Moore's office, cuts Moore said he supports, Beavers implied Moore wasn't smart enough to understand the cuts and Republican commissioners must have used racial intimidation to get him to agree.


Just keep slinging shit and see what sticks... :roll:
Author:  sportsfan [ Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:15 pm ]
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Is Beavers a Douchebag? Absolutely. Nomination fits. Sad he won't read this nomination, but if he did, he might see how inappropriate his comments are.

A good Douchebag might clean up Beavers.
Author:  Killer V [ Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:17 pm ]
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NSJ wrote:
A good Douchebag might clean up Beavers.


Aren't we being a little hard on the Beavers?
Author:  Darkside [ Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:18 pm ]
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Evergreen Tommy wrote:
Nas wrote:
I did it just to fuck with you.


As did I :wink:

Faboo.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:21 pm ]
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you could douchebag just about everyone on the cook county board and as well as everyone at chicago city hall. thier BS and inneficeincy has driven up costs so much that the they have to raise taxes to incredible levels. interesting how there was no talk of these gov't employees taking an even minute paycut to help close this budget gap
Author:  good dolphin [ Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:59 pm ]
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Wrong Frank. Furlough days are being demanded of every non union employee making I believe above 55,000.
Author:  Darkside [ Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:02 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote:
Wrong Frank. Furlough days are being demanded of every non union employee making I believe above 55,000.


Except for the commissioners.
Author:  Hawkeye Vince [ Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:15 pm ]
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Darkside wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Wrong Frank. Furlough days are being demanded of every non union employee making I believe above 55,000.


Except for the commissioners.


And most likely Stroger appointees.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:22 pm ]
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Darkside wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Wrong Frank. Furlough days are being demanded of every non union employee making I believe above 55,000.


Except for the commissioners.


exactly. if the guys making 6 figures cut thier pay by even 0.10%, it wouldnt affect thier bottom line (or the countys) all that much, but it would sure as hell be good PR
Author:  good dolphin [ Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:30 pm ]
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Darkside wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Wrong Frank. Furlough days are being demanded of every non union employee making I believe above 55,000.


Except for the commissioners.


Wrong, unless you mean county commissioners rather than department heads, who are also called commissioners.
Author:  good dolphin [ Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:36 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Darkside wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Wrong Frank. Furlough days are being demanded of every non union employee making I believe above 55,000.


Except for the commissioners.


exactly. if the guys making 6 figures cut thier pay by even 0.10%, it wouldnt affect thier bottom line (or the countys) all that much, but it would sure as hell be good PR


Wrong.

Low six figures + house in chicago + family= no room to be taking unpaid days.

This is the same argument that astounds me when people talk about player contracts when offers are different by several million dollars.
Author:  C_Howitt_Fealz [ Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:02 pm ]
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Is the Iceman still on the Board?
Author:  sportsfan [ Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:04 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote:
Low six figures + house in chicago + family= no room to be taking unpaid days.


The low six figures is correct, but represents their "on the side" income. Cook County Commissioner is not a full time job.
Author:  good dolphin [ Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:06 pm ]
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I don't think a county commissioner makes in the low six figures. I think they make somewhere around 70K but I understand your point. I thought he meant the administrative department commissioners.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:07 pm ]
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find me a higher up on the CC payroll thats struggling financially, and ill sell you some oceanfront property in new mexico.
Author:  sportsfan [ Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:08 pm ]
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My commissioner (Greg Goslin) makes about 110K. I assume they all make the same salary.
Author:  good dolphin [ Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:17 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
find me a higher up on the CC payroll thats struggling financially, and ill sell you some oceanfront property in new mexico.


It matters what you consider struggling.
Author:  good dolphin [ Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:20 pm ]
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NSJ wrote:
My commissioner (Greg Goslin) makes about 110K. I assume they all make the same salary.


I just looked it up. 85K.
Author:  sportsfan [ Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:09 pm ]
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Ok. I was off by 25K
Author:  doug - evergreen park [ Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:14 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote:
NSJ wrote:
My commissioner (Greg Goslin) makes about 110K. I assume they all make the same salary.


I just looked it up. 85K.


so, is that all he does?
Author:  sportsfan [ Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:16 pm ]
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No, he's also a . . . .

Drum Roll Please . . .

. . . . A lawyer and the former Northfield Township Republican Committeeman.

Isn't it shocking??
Author:  doug - evergreen park [ Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:22 pm ]
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alright so, lets assume he works what 55 hrs a week lawyering?
how much time is spent being a commish for 85k?
does he go to 20, two hour meetings a year?

we should assume this guy is probably making a total of $225k if he's a partner at an "average" firm...

that's a lot of scratch.
doubt he's struggling if i'm remotely close.
Author:  bigfan [ Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:09 pm ]
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And I am sure none of them are in outside deals, that need any government involvement.



$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:18 pm ]
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you have to live within your means. 85K should be enough for a decent house and the tipical 1.5 kids. now if you have all sorts of extravagant and material things(like a gazeebo or floor hockey rink with a PBR tap ;)), then 85K per year probably wont cover that.

my folks are anything but rich, but they certainly arent hurting either and i would guesstimate that the household income is roughly 90K
Author:  Frontman [ Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:13 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote:
NSJ wrote:
My commissioner (Greg Goslin) makes about 110K. I assume they all make the same salary.


I just looked it up. 85K.


That's about 50K more than I make at a full time job; he makes that for basically a side job.

Sorry if they feel that they aren't paid enough or could do with a paycut.

Illinois politics as a whole are really hurting this state. The smoke-free ban was moronic, the Cook County Sales Tax, additional tax for eating fast food, 78 bucks for you licence renewal for a 30 cent sticker, taxed for being taxed. Hell ORLAND FREAKIN' PARK has a higher sales tax just for being Orland.

You know its bad when shopping for a TV at Best Buy and the sales kid tells you to got to the store off of I-80, as the taxes are lower there.
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