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Author:  Darkside [ Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:07 pm ]
Post subject:  All-Star Games

They all suck. Hockey and NBA do it sorta right with the skills competition. But the games blow.
Baseball couldn't do it WORSE with the WS HFA on the line. Just awful.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: All-Star Games

The baseball AS game is by far the best of all of the major sports. Its not even a discussion.

The fact that home field rides on it is indeed terrible, but it doesn't take away from the fact that it is an actual, competitive game where players give real effort year after year.

Author:  RFDC [ Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: All-Star Games

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Author:  lipidquadcab [ Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: All-Star Games

Frank Coztansa wrote:
The baseball AS game is by far the best of all of the major sports. Its not even a discussion.

The fact that home field rides on it is indeed terrible, but it doesn't take away from the fact that it is an actual, competitive game where players give real effort year after year.

I'd agree with you if it weren't for the fact that the best players are out of the game by the 5th or 6th inning.

Author:  sjboyd0137 [ Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: All-Star Games

:lol:

There's an all star game today?

Author:  Joe Orr Road Rod [ Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: All-Star Games

Was baseball better back when home field advantage in the WS alternated?

Author:  sjboyd0137 [ Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: All-Star Games

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Was baseball better back when home field advantage in the WS alternated?

No

It was the same as it is now...just with a stupid addition to a pointless game.

Author:  Darkside [ Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: All-Star Games

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Was baseball better back when home field advantage in the WS alternated?

It'll be better when they give HFA to the team with the best regular season record.

Author:  Joe Orr Road Rod [ Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: All-Star Games

Darkside wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Was baseball better back when home field advantage in the WS alternated?

It'll be better when they give HFA to the team with the best regular season record.


How is that fair?

Author:  Darkside [ Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: All-Star Games

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Was baseball better back when home field advantage in the WS alternated?

It'll be better when they give HFA to the team with the best regular season record.


How is that fair?

Really?

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: All-Star Games

lipidquadcab wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
The baseball AS game is by far the best of all of the major sports. Its not even a discussion.

The fact that home field rides on it is indeed terrible, but it doesn't take away from the fact that it is an actual, competitive game where players give real effort year after year.

I'd agree with you if it weren't for the fact that the best players are out of the game by the 5th or 6th inning.
Sometimes the best players aren't the starters who were voted in by the fans.

Author:  Joe Orr Road Rod [ Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: All-Star Games

Darkside wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Was baseball better back when home field advantage in the WS alternated?

It'll be better when they give HFA to the team with the best regular season record.


How is that fair?

Really?


Yeah, really. One team might play 36 games vs. Colorado and Arizona. Christ on a cracker.

Author:  lipidquadcab [ Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: All-Star Games

JORR arguing against wins...

Game over internet, game over...

Author:  Darkside [ Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: All-Star Games

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Yeah, really. One team might play 36 games vs. Colorado and Arizona. Christ on a cracker.

So all the other leagues are unfairly assigning home field advantage (minus, of course, the Super Bowl, knowing that HFA for the playoffs though, is determined by record).

Author:  Joe Orr Road Rod [ Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: All-Star Games

Darkside wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Yeah, really. One team might play 36 games vs. Colorado and Arizona. Christ on a cracker.

So all the other leagues are unfairly assigning home field advantage (minus, of course, the Super Bowl, knowing that HFA for the playoffs though, is determined by record).


Baseball has two separate leagues with different rules. Regardless, I don't see how you could think it's fair when I have to beat better teams than you do.

It's really not a big deal. Alternating was fine and no one complained. So now your league has to win an exhibition game. It's fine. The best way would probably be to give it to the league with the better interleague record.

Author:  Darkside [ Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: All-Star Games

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Baseball has two separate leagues with different rules. Regardless, I don't see how you could think it's fair when I have to beat better teams than you do.

It's really not a big deal. Alternating was fine and no one complained. So now your league has to win an exhibition game. It's fine. The best way would probably be to give it to the league with the better interleague record.

Uhhh... so wins isn't a way of determining which team is better? But it is a way of determining which pitcher is better?

Author:  Joe Orr Road Rod [ Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: All-Star Games

Darkside wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Baseball has two separate leagues with different rules. Regardless, I don't see how you could think it's fair when I have to beat better teams than you do.

It's really not a big deal. Alternating was fine and no one complained. So now your league has to win an exhibition game. It's fine. The best way would probably be to give it to the league with the better interleague record.

Uhhh... so wins isn't a way of determining which team is better? But it is a way of determining which pitcher is better?


I refuse to believe you are so obtuse.

Author:  Darkside [ Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: All-Star Games

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I refuse to believe you are so obtuse.

Oh, I AM that obtuse.
So wins don't tell you which team is better. Wins do tell you which pitcher is better. I just want to make sure I understand the way you're thinking. I think I got it.

Author:  Joe Orr Road Rod [ Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: All-Star Games

Let's say that next season the NL decided they were going to play a championship series against the Midwest League champion. Should the best record get home field advantage? Or is it clear that the records are unrelated?

Author:  Darkside [ Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: All-Star Games

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Christ on a cracker.

Oh boy! Seacrest ain't gonna like you using someone else's meme.

Author:  Darkside [ Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: All-Star Games

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Let's say that next season the NL decided they were going to play a championship series against the Midwest League champion. Should the best record get home field advantage? Or is it clear that the records are unrelated?

Ah... what?

Author:  Seacrest [ Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: All-Star Games

Darkside wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Christ on a cracker.

Oh boy! Seacrest ain't gonna like you using someone else's meme.



That's not a meme.

And your obtuse act in multiple threads makes your claim of being just that a new meme.

Author:  Darkside [ Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: All-Star Games

Seacrest wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Christ on a cracker.

Oh boy! Seacrest ain't gonna like you using someone else's meme.



That's not a meme.

And your obtuse act in multiple threads makes your claim of being just that a new meme.

Ah... what?

Author:  RFDC [ Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: All-Star Games

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Let's say that next season the NL decided they were going to play a championship series against the Midwest League champion. Should the best record get home field advantage? Or is it clear that the records are unrelated?


completely similar situations... And Sandy is being obtuse...

Having the WS homefield determined by an exhibition game is just stupid.

However, the decide it, it should be based on a large sample size of games from the actual MLB season.

Author:  conns7901 [ Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: All-Star Games

I would like to know how the NFL, NBA and NHL should decide who gets home field since none of them play a balanced schedule.

Author:  Walt Williams Neck [ Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: All-Star Games

RFDC wrote:
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Has nothing at all to do with this thread...what a friggin dope :D

Author:  RFDC [ Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: All-Star Games

Walt, you know you are always my valentine!

Author:  Seacrest [ Sun Feb 15, 2015 5:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: All-Star Games

conns7901 wrote:
I would like to know how the NFL, NBA and NHL should decide who gets home field since none of them play a balanced schedule.



I don't think that any pro league plays a balanced schedule.

Author:  Walt Williams Neck [ Sun Feb 15, 2015 5:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: All-Star Games

RFDC wrote:
Walt, you know you are always my valentine!

Image

Author:  Joe Orr Road Rod [ Sun Feb 15, 2015 6:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: All-Star Games

conns7901 wrote:
I would like to know how the NFL, NBA and NHL should decide who gets home field since none of them play a balanced schedule.


I don't know, but the NFL, NBA, and NHL aren't comprised of two different, separate leagues, each with its own long history and traditions.

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