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How far back would you take this "best American band in the last ____ years"? Flaming Lips have been around since '83.

For the first time, I went and looked at the history of Wilco...I've never been in love with them...I now know they were formed as an offshoot of Uncle Tupelo in 1994. How about that?!

I'd throw Ike Reilly on the list of best things going in the US over the past 20 years, although without huge commercial success. It's been 15 years since Salesmen and Racists came out.

Green Day
Foo Fighters
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I thought about Ike, but I don't really consider him a band, do you? I think of him more like a singer/songwriter who plays with a band. He'd be comparable to Jackson Browne.


I have always looked at Jackson Browne as a solo act, like James Taylor. Reilly on the other hand tours with the same band, which has been together with only a couple of changes since he put them together for S&R. They actually decided to change the name from simply Ike Reilly(the solo act) to The Ike Reilly Assassination(the complete band). The majority of Ike's gigs are as the Assassination. I would compare him more to Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band.

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I'm really looking forward to the Show this Saturday...Ed Tinley will be back in the fold for the 15 anniversary of S&R. Ed is one hell of a musician and producer and was a huge part of creating Reilly's sound.


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I'm digging the new Deive-By Truckers tune, "Surrender Under Protest."

Incidentally, the DBTs are the best American band of the past two decades, yes?



That's quite a statement. I'm not sure about that. I'd say it's fair to bring them into the conversation though.


Who else do you put there, JORR? I'd love to hear your selections.



Well, I think the Flaming Lips are a special band. I wouldn't say I necessarily like them more than Drive-By Truckers, but they do stuff that nobody else does, where as the Truckers are a pretty standard rock band, albeit a damn good one. Furious mentions the White Stripes above. I'd go with them as well. Sleater-Kinney. The Dirtbombs. The Black Lips. The Flying Luttenbachers.


Interesting selections. The Flaming Lips, White Stripes and Sleater-Kinney definitely need to be part of the conversation.

Question: Why do you hate Jeff Tweedy?


I don't hate Tweedy. I think he's a great songwriter. I just prefer him as a more straight forward, what I guess I might call a "pop" artist, rather than a guy who allows the weirdness and noodling of Kotche and Cline to overshadow his songs. I find their contributions to be a distraction from Tweedy's songs. I think Jay Bennett was more important to that band than Tweedy thought he was. To me, Summerteeth is still Wilco's masterpiece. The Whole Love is my favorite from the Cline/Kotche era. I hate Yankee Hotel Foxtrot. Maybe my tastes just aren't sophisticated enough.



Man you couldn't have summed up my feelings better on tweedy. That is insanely spot on.


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Just started...no idea if it'll be good.

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22, A Million -- Bon Iver

Quite a bit more progressive than previous efforts. I think a lot of people will pan it but sounded pretty good to me. I'll have
to give it a few more spins. I really like Justin Vernon so I am a bit biased.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I don't hate Tweedy. I think he's a great songwriter. I just prefer him as a more straight forward, what I guess I might call a "pop" artist, rather than a guy who allows the weirdness and noodling of Kotche and Cline to overshadow his songs. I find their contributions to be a distraction from Tweedy's songs. I think Jay Bennett was more important to that band than Tweedy thought he was. To me, Summerteeth is still Wilco's masterpiece. The Whole Love is my favorite from the Cline/Kotche era. I hate Yankee Hotel Foxtrot. Maybe my tastes just aren't sophisticated enough.


Tweedy always needs a counterbalance of some sort, whether it's Jay Farrar or Jay Bennett or Nels Cline or even Jim O'Donnell. He needs other people's weirdness to thrive; his solo album was a crashing bore.

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Thee Oh Sees. Getting their new one (A Weird Exits) tomorrow.

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I was there:

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and then we all went here, for the DBT's 1 AM new year's day/nye post-Patti Smith's NYE show at the Bowery:

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Year before that we hit the Aragon for White Stripes/Flaming Lips/Blanche:

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I first saw DBT's at the Hideout. No one really knew who the fuck they were. Didn't do much for me, til they played classic rock for the encore. And they kept showing up in town with other bands I liked, Slobberbone, Alejandro Escovedo.

Jason Isbell's solo stuff is really good.

Flaming Lips played NYE for a few years at Metro. HUM played a "final" show one of those Lips NYE at the Metro shows. The lead guy from HUM did the most milktoast stage-dive ever at the end of their set/existence as a band (at the time, they've since returned?) He took off his guitar, walked back to the amp stacks, set the guitar down carefully in its cradle, walked over to the front of the stage and then got on the divider thing between the crowd and stage with the help of security, shrugged, turned around and nestea'd it backwards into the audience.

Flaming Lips must've recorded in Chicago a lot early part of last decade. They'd show up at sparsely attended Rib-Fests and play their full-on video show for 100 fans in the rain. I think Centro-Matic or, no, tim rutili's band, Califone, played that same ?back off of Ogden? i think, ribfest.

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Cailfone's fucking awesome.


Rutili has always been pretty great. He keeps his weirdness right on the edge. I loved Friends Of Betty and Red Red Meat. This is an awesome song: https://soundcloud.com/subpop/red-red-meat-flank

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Tweedy always needs a counterbalance of some sort, whether it's Jay Farrar or Jay Bennett or Nels Cline or even Jim O'Donnell. He needs other people's weirdness to thrive; his solo album was a crashing bore.


I think you mean Jim ORourke, but that's funny. Wait, Odonnell is a musician too, isn't he? Maybe you meant what you said.

ORourke's in Japan now? At least I think I saw him posting pics trying to buy shit at those uber-vending machines they have over there.


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https://soundcloud.com/subpop/red-red-meat-flank

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I decided to listen to a mix of 90s tunes on YouTube and a song came up that reminded me of this tribute album that I had at one time. Pretty sure
I don't have it among my collection any longer but is a pretty solid listen if you like Led Zeppelin at all....

"Misty Mountain Hop" 5:44 (Jones/Page/Plant), by 4 Non Blondes
"Hey, Hey, What Can I Do" 3:27 (Bonham/Jones/Page/Plant), by Hootie & The Blowfish
"D'yer Mak'er" 4:20 (Bonham/Jones/Page/Plant), by Sheryl Crow
"Dancing Days" 4:02 (Page/Plant), by Stone Temple Pilots
"Tangerine" 3:36 (Page), by Big Head Todd and the Monsters
"Thank You" 4:32 (Page/Plant), by Duran Duran
"Out on the Tiles" 3:14 (Bonham/Page/Plant), by Blind Melon
"Good Times Bad Times" 2:43 (Bonham/Jones/Page), by Cracker
"Custard Pie" 4:41 (Page/Plant), by Helmet with David Yow (of The Jesus Lizard)
"Four Sticks" 3:30 (Page/Plant), by Rollins Band
"Going to California" 4:24 (Page/Plant), by Never the Bride
"Down by the Seaside" 7:49 (Page/Plant), by Robert Plant and Tori Amos

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Hussra wrote:
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Tweedy always needs a counterbalance of some sort, whether it's Jay Farrar or Jay Bennett or Nels Cline or even Jim O'Donnell. He needs other people's weirdness to thrive; his solo album was a crashing bore.


I think you mean Jim ORourke, but that's funny. Wait, Odonnell is a musician too, isn't he? Maybe you meant what you said.

ORourke's in Japan now? At least I think I saw him posting pics trying to buy shit at those uber-vending machines they have over there.


:lol: Shit. I did mean Jim O'Rourke. I'm gonna piss myself laughing at Jim O'Donnell producing a Wilco album. Dummy Leroy Bach!

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ORourke and Tweedy's side project from the post-Summerteeth, pre-YHF period:

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Loose Fur is how Tweedy met Kotche and got ORourke involved in mixing YHF that led to first Coomer exiting Wilco and then Bennett.


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First single off of the new DGD album: https://youtu.be/gDCHx4tPv-Y

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ORourke and Tweedy's side project from the post-Summerteeth, pre-YHF period:

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Loose Fur is how Tweedy met Kotche and got ORourke involved in mixing YHF that led to first Coomer exiting Wilco and then Bennett.


I didn't like the first Loose Fur too much, but the second was pretty good. "Hey Chicken," "Apostolic," "Stupid as the Sun," and "Thou Shalt Wilt" are as good as most of A Ghost Is Born, and don't sound like there was some mastering error.

I'd rank the Wilco Expanded Universe thus:

Wilco
Uncle Tupelo
Son Volt
Billy Bragg and Wilco doing Woody Guthrie
Loose Fur
Nels Cline
Jay Bennett
The Autumn Defense




Tweedy

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there's also:

Golden Smog (Tweedy with a Minneapolis Alt-County/Indie pop all-star band)
Tim Easton's 'Truth About Us' [Wilco w.out Tweedy]

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Bon Iver debuted their upcoming album live in chronological order last week at their festival.
It helps if you're already predisposed to like the band, but this is just amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmEwd6q4gsA

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As usual Im late to the dance but I heard "Casual Party" by Band of Horses a few days ago and cant get it out of my head. Interesting video they put out to go along with the song too.

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LOVE their first three albums.

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As usual Im late to the dance but I heard "Casual Party" by Band of Horses a few days ago and cant get it out of my head. Interesting video they put out to go along with the song too.


That song is definitely infectious. The Jason Lytle (Grandaddy) production there is obvious--and that's an asset in my view. Are you a Grandaddy fan, Rogue? I really like Sumday. "El Caminos in the West" is one of my favorites on that album.

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LOVE their first three albums.

Have you heard anything after Furr?

I have not, but plan to after revisiting this one.

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