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Poison's "Fallen Angel" is definitely not a ballad of any kind. It is, however, their 2nd best song after "Ride The Wind".

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

You’ve thought about this.

Because, I’ll be honest, I don’t think there is a “definition”.

You are the Dr. Fauci of Monster Ballads.

But Mongo and RFDC are experts. They are picking up what I am throwing down. They are monster Ballad experts. They unnerstand steelheart I'll never let you go and they know it's for hairbands slowing songs down and being kinda terrible but good n terrible.

It's like you with "my bank".

Spaulding wrote:

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

You’ve thought about this.

Because, I’ll be honest, I don’t think there is a “definition”.

You are the Dr. Fauci of Monster Ballads.

Yeah they're fantastic. Its like you said about music taking you back so the memories are good too. The cheese factor was pretty high but the hair metal bands were fun. Grunge was ok but it wasn't that fun.

"High Enough"- Damn Yankees
"November Rain"- Guns N' Roses

Do I know how you are all are gay?

Regular Reader wrote:

Do I know how you are all are gay?

OK....I'm kind of glad I missed this thread last night. RR pretty much just covered it.

Sadly, this was at it's peak during my Jr. and Sr years of high school. Fucking awful. My one friend put it best.....most bands had one for every album to drive sales. The line of integrity was they couldn't release it as the first single....that's just too easy. It had to wait until the 2nd or 3rd single / video from the album.

Pretty unfair to put Tesla in this category....they never had the glam image at all. Their music was and is still very credible.

Every Rose Has It's Thorn has to be the reigning champion. Funny I think REO Speedwagon's "Keep On Loving You" was the first one.

THANK God, this is over....complete garbage. I don't mind some of them, but by 1989 it was pretty fucking nauseating with every band putting one out.

Is "Sweet Child O' Mine" a power ballad?

I didn't consider Guns 'n Roses a hair band.

I do not consider Guns N Roses a hair band.

MongoMuller wrote:

I didn't consider Guns 'n Roses a hair band.

RFDC wrote:

I do not consider Guns N Roses a hair band.

Those pussies wore makeup. And not cool makeup like the New York Dolls or Kiss. Just regular femme makeup and hair spray. Definitely a hair band.

Author:	Spaulding [ Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:49 pm ]
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I got a bottle of extract for you uncle ned.

Author:	RFDC [ Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:49 pm ]
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shirtless driver wrote: Poison's "Fallen Angel" is definitely not a ballad of any kind. It is, however, their 2nd best song after "Ride The Wind". Oh Ride the Wind....that is a good song.

Author:	Nas [ Tue Apr 14, 2020 12:07 am ]
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All Ballads Matter

Author:	Furious Styles [ Tue Apr 14, 2020 12:29 am ]
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"Open Arms" and "Faithfully" on account of Steve Smith's mighty drumming.

Author:	MongoMuller [ Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:20 am ]
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Spaulding wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: You’ve thought about this. Because, I’ll be honest, I don’t think there is a “definition”. You are the Dr. Fauci of Monster Ballads. But Mongo and RFDC are experts. They are picking up what I am throwing down. They are monster Ballad experts. They unnerstand steelheart I'll never let you go and they know it's for hairbands slowing songs down and being kinda terrible but good n terrible. It's like you with "my bank". Yeah they're fantastic. Its like you said about music taking you back so the memories are good too. The cheese factor was pretty high but the hair metal bands were fun. Grunge was ok but it wasn't that fun.

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Author:	RFDC [ Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:24 am ]
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MongoMuller wrote: Spaulding wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: You’ve thought about this. Because, I’ll be honest, I don’t think there is a “definition”. You are the Dr. Fauci of Monster Ballads. But Mongo and RFDC are experts. They are picking up what I am throwing down. They are monster Ballad experts. They unnerstand steelheart I'll never let you go and they know it's for hairbands slowing songs down and being kinda terrible but good n terrible. It's like you with "my bank". Yeah they're fantastic. Its like you said about music taking you back so the memories are good too. The cheese factor was pretty high but the hair metal bands were fun. Grunge was ok but it wasn't that fun. Yep. In the moment I hated grunge. As I have gotten older I have grown to tolerate it a little more and admit there is some good stuff mixed in it. But it was never fun like the hair bands. I miss those days. But I guess it just means we are getting older

Author:	FrankDrebin [ Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:38 am ]
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"High Enough"- Damn Yankees "November Rain"- Guns N' Roses

Author:	RFDC [ Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:49 am ]
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FrankDrebin wrote: "High Enough"- Damn Yankees "November Rain"- Guns N' Roses November Rain is an interesting one. Probably technically it would be a power ballad. But I don't know how many view it as such, and I think Axl Rose would be furious with the thought of it even being mentioned along side of "hair bands." He saw that trilogy of songs/videos in such a unique way almost like a docudrama. But a great song nonetheless.

Author:	GoldenJet [ Tue Apr 14, 2020 2:42 am ]
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Grunge rescued rock music from the hair band morass.

Author:	Joe Orr Road Rod [ Tue Apr 14, 2020 5:50 am ]
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Spaulding wrote: Jorr won't get it. Fuck you, Spaulding! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjuEXKwnkLE

Author:	GoldenJet [ Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:29 am ]
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Fuck, I cant believe I clicked that link. Clicked away before the song...but now it's in my head.

Author:	doug - evergreen park [ Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:17 am ]
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Skid Row - Wasted Time & Quicksand Jesus.

Author:	Telegram Sam [ Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:24 am ]
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It's interesting. That style/formula of song has been absorbed into Country Pop. It's very recognizable. But that vocal style, which was so prized in that era has all but disappeared, except in joke bands like Steel Panther.

Author:	The Evaluator [ Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:44 am ]
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Author:	beni hanna [ Tue Apr 14, 2020 12:02 pm ]
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Where the heck is Hockey Gay? He should be all over this. SCORPIONS people. Since we are all in detention, you have a little free time. I highly recommend you take the time to go listen to these gems, the timeline they were made, and determine for yourself if some of the other 'ballads' did not originate from these works of art. 1979 - Lovedrive was the first Scorpions album to contain a decent rock love ballad. I submit Holiday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5vV8-mLl4Y 1980 - Animal Magnetism provides us with two (2) solid rock love ballad submissions: Lady Starlight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5LV_VzQGqk Always Somewhere https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1KlqFBqOh8 Both of these albums are excellent for the genre. It wouldn't be an entire waist of 80 minutes or so to listen to both cover to cover. All we got is time.

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Author:	sjboyd0137 [ Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:49 am ]
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[quote="The Evaluator"][/quote] This mult is amongst the worst in bored history.

Author:	BigW72 [ Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:34 am ]
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Regular Reader wrote: Do I know how you are all are gay? OK....I'm kind of glad I missed this thread last night. RR pretty much just covered it. Sadly, this was at it's peak during my Jr. and Sr years of high school. Fucking awful. My one friend put it best.....most bands had one for every album to drive sales. The line of integrity was they couldn't release it as the first single....that's just too easy. It had to wait until the 2nd or 3rd single / video from the album. Pretty unfair to put Tesla in this category....they never had the glam image at all. Their music was and is still very credible. Every Rose Has It's Thorn has to be the reigning champion. Funny I think REO Speedwagon's "Keep On Loving You" was the first one. THANK God, this is over....complete garbage. I don't mind some of them, but by 1989 it was pretty fucking nauseating with every band putting one out.

Author:	GoldenJet [ Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:38 am ]
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There's always room for schlock rock.

Author:	MongoMuller [ Tue Apr 14, 2020 10:15 am ]
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It seems the term "power ballad" has changed over the years. In the 80's it was invented to describe the the songs the hair bands were cranking out but it seems to have been co-opted to describe any ballad. I googled some best "power ballad" lists and Phil Collins, Bonnie Tyler, and Bryan Adams made the lists.

Author:	RFDC [ Tue Apr 14, 2020 10:21 am ]
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BigW72 wrote: Regular Reader wrote: Do I know how you are all are gay? OK....I'm kind of glad I missed this thread last night. RR pretty much just covered it. Sadly, this was at it's peak during my Jr. and Sr years of high school. Fucking awful. My one friend put it best.....most bands had one for every album to drive sales. The line of integrity was they couldn't release it as the first single....that's just too easy. It had to wait until the 2nd or 3rd single / video from the album. Pretty unfair to put Tesla in this category....they never had the glam image at all. Their music was and is still very credible. Every Rose Has It's Thorn has to be the reigning champion. Funny I think REO Speedwagon's "Keep On Loving You" was the first one. THANK God, this is over....complete garbage. I don't mind some of them, but by 1989 it was pretty fucking nauseating with every band putting one out. Since you are one of my favorite posters and a member of Team Spaulding I am just going to pretend this post does not exist.

Author:	RFDC [ Tue Apr 14, 2020 10:23 am ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Is "Sweet Child O' Mine" a power ballad? Depends on who you ask. I would say no because I do not consider Guns N Roses a hair band.

Author:	MongoMuller [ Tue Apr 14, 2020 10:27 am ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Is "Sweet Child O' Mine" a power ballad? Good question. I didn't consider Guns 'n Roses a hair band. They didn't have fizzy guitars and were a lot darker. The song on the album was more of a rocker than the radio edit. It did serve the purpose of a power ballad though by giving them exposure on radio and MTV. The first single was Welcome to the Jungle which MTV only played on Headbanger's Ball. Appetite for Destruction didn't blow up until they started playing Sweet Child o' Mine in heavy rotation on MTV.

Author:	Spaulding [ Tue Apr 14, 2020 10:33 am ]
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If I had to pick one from GNR I'm with Drebin on November Rain. They don't really come to the forefront though.

Author:	pittmike [ Tue Apr 14, 2020 10:33 am ]
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I always thought it was strange they almost glammed up GNR. Their first video had Axl with his hair all teased and hair sprayed in Welcome to the Jungle. Fortunately someone thought better.

Author:	pittmike [ Tue Apr 14, 2020 10:34 am ]
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Also I wouldn't call November Rain or Silent Lucidity a ballad. They were more of a monstrosity.

Author:	Urlacher's missing neck [ Tue Apr 14, 2020 12:09 pm ]
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Patience is a power ballad.

Author:	RFDC [ Tue Apr 14, 2020 12:19 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: MongoMuller wrote: I didn't consider Guns 'n Roses a hair band. RFDC wrote: I do not consider Guns N Roses a hair band. Those pussies wore makeup. And not cool makeup like the New York Dolls or Kiss. Just regular femme makeup and hair spray. Definitely a hair band. They did at the very beginning when being marketed and such. But that disappeared really quickly as they found their grove. But as always this stuff is all relative.