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Author:  Phil McCracken [ Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:19 pm ]
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Douchebag wrote:
This was probably at the height of my wrestling fandom, but the Corporate Ministry & Vince McMahon = Higher Power thing was one of the worst storylines I can ever remember.

That was when Taker crucified Steph right?

Author:  Douchebag [ Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:38 pm ]
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Phil McCracken wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
This was probably at the height of my wrestling fandom, but the Corporate Ministry & Vince McMahon = Higher Power thing was one of the worst storylines I can ever remember.

That was when Taker crucified Steph right?

Yep, and Austin "saved" her. Vinny Mac broke down in tears and thanked Austin. 1-2 weeks later, Vince was revealed as the higher power.

Author:  Dewskie [ Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:10 pm ]
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"Pepper Steak" - Al Snow/Big Boss Man feud. Led to the Kennel From Hell match. If you saw it, you remember it, but you don't want to.

Author:  Woodridge Ryan [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:55 pm ]
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DDP - Undertaker could have been good and it ended up just being a squash feud.

Author:  A7X [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:35 pm ]
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Woodridge Ryan wrote:
DDP - Undertaker could have been good and it ended up just being a squash feud.


Yeah I agree. I've always liked DDP and I think they could've had some great matches. Vince just chose to squash DDP, probably because he didn't "create" him and more than likely as a fuck you to WCW. Totally wasted him.

Author:  Phil McCracken [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:05 pm ]
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A7X wrote:
Woodridge Ryan wrote:
DDP - Undertaker could have been good and it ended up just being a squash feud.


Yeah I agree. I've always liked DDP and I think they could've had some great matches. Vince just chose to squash DDP, probably because he didn't "create" him and more than likely as a fuck you to WCW. Totally wasted him.

I kind of dug his unhinged motivational speaker persona that he had in the WWF but like you said Vince buried him worse than the Ultimate Warrior in a casket match

Author:  SomeGuy [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:06 pm ]
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Still no Kid?

Shocking.

Author:  Beebo [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:18 pm ]
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Any Big Show versus Mysterio angle

Author:  SomeGuy [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:39 pm ]
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Beebo wrote:
Any Big Show versus Mysterio angle


Those are bad. I can just envision the creative process (or lack thereof) before on of these angles....

"Hey, well, Mysterio is small and Big Show is BIG! Let's have them fight each other!"

Author:  SomeGuy [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:39 pm ]
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Still nothing from OKC?

Man, who knew!?

Author:  Douchebag [ Fri Oct 05, 2012 6:58 am ]
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SomeGuy wrote:
Still nothing from OKC?

Man, who knew!?

He likes all feuds/storylines. OKC is like the Jon Gruden of wrestling fandom.

Author:  SomeGuy [ Fri Oct 05, 2012 7:48 am ]
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Douchebag wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:
Still nothing from OKC?

Man, who knew!?

He likes all feuds/storylines. OKC is like the Jon Gruden of wrestling fandom.


This is a sad day.

A truly frightful revelation.

Author:  Phil McCracken [ Fri Oct 05, 2012 8:41 am ]
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Douchebag wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:
Still nothing from OKC?

Man, who knew!?

He likes all feuds/storylines. OKC is like the Jon Gruden of wrestling fandom.

The Big Boss Man....He is like Josey Wales.....A GUNSLINER!

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Fri Oct 05, 2012 8:52 am ]
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I wasn't aware of this one. And I'm glad.

Atsushi Onita VS. Invader 1 - This feud was one of the shortest ever, thankfully! After Invader 1 got away with the "alleged" murder of Bruiser Brody, it would suffice to say that he wasn't exactly the most popular guy in the wrestling world. Rumors run rampant of what was supposed to take place in this feud. What is known is that Onita did fly out and visit the WWC offices. There was press coverage and photos taken of a signing. Jose Gonzalez aka Invader 1 was being booked for a tour of Japan with Onita's FMW. There was a scuffle and Onita was attacked by some Puerto Rican wrestlers. Somewhere along the lines, here's where it gets hazy, either Onita himself attempted to stab his own stomach, or Invader himself did indeed cut Onita. The scuffle was covered by the Japanese wrestling press, and it made its way to the mainstream Japanese press. The angle was obviously an attempted recreation of the Bruiser Brody stabbing. Brody being such a huge star in Japan and his murder still being fresh in everybody's mind, it would make sense that the angle/feud was universally despised, and Invader 1 never made it to Japan. Further rumors would even hint at this being an attempt to have Invader 1 go to Japan so he could meet his end at the hand of the Yakuza. Either way, the feud ended prematurely.

Author:  Jack Bauer [ Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:01 am ]
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Punk vs WWE once HHH got involved.

Goldberg/Lesnar, Goldberg/HHH, Goldberg/Austin since it never happened.

Numerous feuds cut short by injury/Wellness.

Also, any "worst match" list has to include THAT Jackie Gayda match...

Author:  SomeGuy [ Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:01 am ]
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
I wasn't aware of this one. And I'm glad.

Atsushi Onita VS. Invader 1 - This feud was one of the shortest ever, thankfully! After Invader 1 got away with the "alleged" murder of Bruiser Brody, it would suffice to say that he wasn't exactly the most popular guy in the wrestling world. Rumors run rampant of what was supposed to take place in this feud. What is known is that Onita did fly out and visit the WWC offices. There was press coverage and photos taken of a signing. Jose Gonzalez aka Invader 1 was being booked for a tour of Japan with Onita's FMW. There was a scuffle and Onita was attacked by some Puerto Rican wrestlers. Somewhere along the lines, here's where it gets hazy, either Onita himself attempted to stab his own stomach, or Invader himself did indeed cut Onita. The scuffle was covered by the Japanese wrestling press, and it made its way to the mainstream Japanese press. The angle was obviously an attempted recreation of the Bruiser Brody stabbing. Brody being such a huge star in Japan and his murder still being fresh in everybody's mind, it would make sense that the angle/feud was universally despised, and Invader 1 never made it to Japan. Further rumors would even hint at this being an attempt to have Invader 1 go to Japan so he could meet his end at the hand of the Yakuza. Either way, the feud ended prematurely.


You forget to properly cite your source on this one.

Poor feud, poor form.

Author:  SomeGuy [ Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:03 am ]
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Jack Bauer wrote:
Punk vs WWE once HHH got involved.

Goldberg/Lesnar, Goldberg/HHH, Goldberg/Austin since it never happened.

Numerous feuds cut short by injury/Wellness.

Also, any "worst match" list has to include THAT Jackie Gayda match...


Triple HHH isn't "cool" anymore and hasn't been for a while. Always has to get in on anyone and anything that is getting over without his presence. Thing is, when he starts injecting himself into stuff that stuff starts to get lame.

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:07 am ]
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SomeGuy wrote:
Jack Bauer wrote:
Punk vs WWE once HHH got involved.

Goldberg/Lesnar, Goldberg/HHH, Goldberg/Austin since it never happened.

Numerous feuds cut short by injury/Wellness.

Also, any "worst match" list has to include THAT Jackie Gayda match...


Triple HHH isn't "cool" anymore and hasn't been for a while. Always has to get in on anyone and anything that is getting over without his presence. Thing is, when he starts injecting himself into stuff that stuff starts to get lame.


chasGuy over here...

Author:  Jack Bauer [ Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:09 am ]
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SomeGuy wrote:
Jack Bauer wrote:
Punk vs WWE once HHH got involved.

Goldberg/Lesnar, Goldberg/HHH, Goldberg/Austin since it never happened.

Numerous feuds cut short by injury/Wellness.

Also, any "worst match" list has to include THAT Jackie Gayda match...


Triple HHH isn't "cool" anymore and hasn't been for a while. Always has to get in on anyone and anything that is getting over without his presence. Thing is, when he starts injecting himself into stuff that stuff starts to get lame.

See, in general I don't despise HHH like others do coughfingeruptheasscough, but that was clearly an attention grab. He just had to get involved with the biggest thing to hit the company in years. Simply jealousy. He couldn't take the fact that some indy jamoke set the wrestling world on fire.

So much potential. Wasted.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:23 am ]
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SomeGuy wrote:
Thing is, when he starts injecting himself into stuff that stuff starts to get lame.

Stephanie was pretty cool when first she turned heel, yeah.

Author:  SomeGuy [ Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:15 am ]
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Oh wow, Kid! That was a great post! You delivered just like you promised!

Oh wait...

Author:  RFDC [ Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:46 am ]
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Is SomeGuy going to be the next Tall Midget?

Author:  SomeGuy [ Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:00 pm ]
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RFDC wrote:
Is SomeGuy going to be the next Tall Midget?


Explain.

Author:  RFDC [ Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:02 pm ]
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SomeGuy wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Is SomeGuy going to be the next Tall Midget?


Explain.


A guy OKC loves and then starts to legitimately hate.

Author:  SomeGuy [ Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:12 pm ]
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RFDC wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Is SomeGuy going to be the next Tall Midget?


Explain.


A guy OKC loves and then starts to legitimately hate.


Never. OKC is MyGuy.

Author:  Don Tiny [ Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:19 pm ]
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Anytime a Gagne was near a championship belt. Same goes (though less so) for Mike Graham.

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:33 pm ]
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Don Tiny wrote:
Anytime a Gagne was near a championship belt. Same goes (though less so) for Mike Graham.


ThatGuy is his own biggest fan. He was pretty insufferable on those Legends of Wrestling roundtables on WWE channel.

Author:  Hawg Ass [ Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:00 am ]
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The Fabulous Ones vs. The Road Warriors


I used to love my Memphis wrestling. :(

Author:  SomeGuy [ Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:52 pm ]
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"Crow"Sting vs Hollywood Hogan....OKC mentioned this to me in a PM and I was shocked that it had been overlooked.

-The setup was over a year long. The energy, hype and potential was built at a nice even pace. Sting didn't want to sign any other contracts to fight any other NWO wrestlers, he just wanted his shot at Hogan.
-Not talking, descending from the rafters...awesome.
-The NWO was king but they were still afraid of Sting
-All in all, as I remember it, the buildup, foundation etc for this match/feud was executed very well.

Now the actual match and the total, absolute clusterfuck that was to happen on Nitro that following Monday, a Thunder or two etc was a true sight to behold and really the beginning of the sharp decline of WCW.

-Hogan wouldn't be pinned clean. Wasn't going to happen.
-At Starrcade and during the biggest match in WCW history (and certainly up there in wrestling history) the end of the match is a convoluted, overbooked trainwreck. Bret Hart is out there, Nick Patrick is knocked out because he did a "Fast Count" for Hogan but he really didn't....the match itself was a bit underwhelming as well and only last 13 minutes or so...it wasn't even a real finish.
-Bad for business. You have people buy the PPV, promise them the scintillating culmination of a feud, a match EVERYONE wanted for over a year....and you screw them out of their money, time and satisfaction. This was WCW to a "T" around this time, it would get worse....both for this "feud" and booking in general. Shockingly, this makes consumers feel a bit burned after a short, short while. They are also giving away HUGE matches FOR FREE. Dumb.
-They try and give us the real ending during Nitro...the build up is bad, JJ Dillion wanted to be anywhere but there, a dumb mugging Bischoff ,a stupid and silly "challenge" and of course the rematch at the end of Nitro! Which was cut short because of "broadcasting limitations"...when really they wanted to show the "missing footage" on the new Thunder. So now, Nitro begins a week later and no one knows what is going on because they won't show the end of the match from the previous Nitro...nope, gotta wait 'till Thursday! Fucking Dumb.
-Dumber Still: After all of this we still don't get a clean finish are a true "end" to it all. We get Dillion coming up and telling Sting to hand over the belt because it was being vacated. Vacated? After all of this? This is the end of the program? And end that isn't an end, just the beginning of the end for the company and the beginning of a horrible muddle through a swamp of shit...a pointless, poorly planned and quickly abandoned 4-Horsemen vs NWO program, Sting joining the Red/Black, Goldberg being mishandled and on and on.
-What's Worse: Sting would never defeat Hollywood Hogan in a clean 1-2-3. He did win at SuperBrawl sometime later but only after interference or whatever. Just stupid. Hogan had his hands all over this one, he ruined it, he totally let his ego (again) fuck everything up.

-Sting defeating Hogan at Starrcade should have been the end or close to the end of the NWO program. It was just about out of steam and beginning its decline into nothingness. Sting wins and you have a few Nitro's/Thunders or even a Tuesday Night in Texas type 1 off special PPV or whatever...the NWO should have disbanded around this time. It didn't and would totally sink and bring the company down with it....but that is a story for another time.

Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:56 pm ]
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That's a great review of that cluserfuck.

Who wrote it?

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