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It's great they won the Superbowl yesterday because they will never win it again once he's making 50 million a year.


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He's going to get $50M a year, isn't he? I'm not sure he's ready to be Tom Brady yet.


Brady took a (mild) pay cut, he was never in the top 3 of QB's in terms of salary..if I'm not mistaken.


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He's going to get $50M a year, isn't he? I'm not sure he's ready to be Tom Brady yet.


Brady took a (mild) pay cut, he was never in the top 3 of QB's in terms of salary..if I'm not mistaken.


Brady was making less than $10M a year until last season. I'm saying that I don't know if Mahomes is ready to win with 3rd and 4th tier receivers.

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He's going to get $50M a year, isn't he? I'm not sure he's ready to be Tom Brady yet.

It seems like he has a LOT of help.


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He needed Hill being the fastest human being on the earth to catch his prayer, Kelsey being a magician catching his inaccurate passes and Damien Williams running roughshod.


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Nardi wrote:
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He's going to get $50M a year, isn't he? I'm not sure he's ready to be Tom Brady yet.

It seems like he has a LOT of help.


He does. There will be MANY cap casualties when his contract kicks in in a couple of years

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Mahomes has one top 10 WR and one top 5 TE. There's nothing else of note on the offense. Watkins is a former top 10 guy who is nowhere near a top 10 WR anymore. Pretty entertaining revisionist history though. Carry on.

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Mahomes has one top 10 WR and one top 5 TE. There's nothing else of note on the offense. Watkins is a former top 10 guy who is nowhere near a top 10 WR anymore. Pretty entertaining revisionist history though. Carry on.


Tyreke is a top 5 WR in football and Kelsey is a top 3 TE. In fact, no QB has a better WR/TE combo.


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Hey Bob, do you think Mitch could win a super bowl if we switched him with Mahomes?

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Mahomes has one top 10 WR and one top 5 TE. There's nothing else of note on the offense. Watkins is a former top 10 guy who is nowhere near a top 10 WR anymore. Pretty entertaining revisionist history though. Carry on.


He has a top 5 WR, top 2 TE, an all pro tackle, good offensive line, HoF coach and a 4th option on offense who is better than the Bears best offensive player. Other than that, he doesn't have much.

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He runs like a woman holding a boiling pot of water too. Dude, put your fucking head down and run over a CB for the TD. I went from rooting for the Chiefs to rooting for the Niners after watching his pansy ass.

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Hey Bob, do you think Mitch could win a super bowl if we switched him with Mahomes?


No, but we need to slow down on GOAT talk a bit. We should also acknowledge he didn't play that great yesterday.


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Caller Bob wrote:
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Mahomes has one top 10 WR and one top 5 TE. There's nothing else of note on the offense. Watkins is a former top 10 guy who is nowhere near a top 10 WR anymore. Pretty entertaining revisionist history though. Carry on.


Tyreke is a top 5 WR in football and Kelsey is a top 3 TE. In fact, no QB has a better WR/TE combo.


Tyreek is not top 5. He's a boom or bust speedster. Better WRs than Hill:

Adams
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Tyreek is in the next class. Don't disagree about Kelce but again that's it. You all are making it seem like he had Kurt Warer's weapons back in 1999/2000, where he had a HOF'er or all-pro at more than five skill positions plus Orlando Pace on the line

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He runs like a woman holding a boiling pot of water too. Dude, put your fucking head down and run over a CB for the TD. I went from rooting for the Chiefs to rooting for the Niners after watching his pansy ass.


I was around someone who "wondered" about him.

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He runs like a woman holding a boiling pot of water too. Dude, put your fucking head down and run over a CB for the TD. I went from rooting for the Chiefs to rooting for the Niners after watching his pansy ass.


He kind of minces.

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Mahomes has one top 10 WR and one top 5 TE. There's nothing else of note on the offense. Watkins is a former top 10 guy who is nowhere near a top 10 WR anymore. Pretty entertaining revisionist history though. Carry on.


Tyreke is a top 5 WR in football and Kelsey is a top 3 TE. In fact, no QB has a better WR/TE combo.


Tyreek is not top 5. He's a boom or bust speedster. Better WRs than Hill:

Adams
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Thomas
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Tyreek is in the next class. Don't disagree about Kelce but again that's it. You all are making it seem like he had Kurt Warer's weapons back in 1999/2000, where he had a HOF'er or all-pro at more than five skill positions plus Orlando Pace on the line


Our best offensive player is top 20 at his position.

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Nas wrote:
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Mahomes has one top 10 WR and one top 5 TE. There's nothing else of note on the offense. Watkins is a former top 10 guy who is nowhere near a top 10 WR anymore. Pretty entertaining revisionist history though. Carry on.


He has a top 5 WR, top 2 TE, an all pro tackle, good offensive line, HoF coach and a 4th option on offense who is better than the Bears best offensive player. Other than that, he doesn't have much.


Idk why you're bringing everything back to (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky. The dude objectively sucks. You've already taken the L on that so the above post, beyond being poorly argued and characteristically subjective, is just another troll job.

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I can see how you could watch (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky in workouts and highlight reels and conclude he was a better prospect. Unfortunately, his IQ is about 40 and has no clue how to play.

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Tyreke Hill gets underrated by the stat monkeys that scout the box scores. He's absolutely top 5 and better than a guy like Evans that just accumulates catches on a garbage team. He's the most dangerous receiver in football with his big plays. He changes the game and the way defenses play.


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No GM is picking tyreek ahead of Evans in a redraft of all current WRs. Hill is a specialist while Evans is an all around beast. Saying tyreek is top ten is not underrating him.

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Nas wrote:
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Mahomes has one top 10 WR and one top 5 TE. There's nothing else of note on the offense. Watkins is a former top 10 guy who is nowhere near a top 10 WR anymore. Pretty entertaining revisionist history though. Carry on.


He has a top 5 WR, top 2 TE, an all pro tackle, good offensive line, HoF coach and a 4th option on offense who is better than the Bears best offensive player. Other than that, he doesn't have much.


Idk why you're bringing everything back to (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky. The dude objectively sucks. You've already taken the L on that so the above post, beyond being poorly argued and characteristically subjective, is just another troll job.


This was specifically about what Mahomes has. A reality that you are trying gloss over.

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Mahomes has a better QB skill set than Mitch. Period end of discussion.

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He runs like a woman holding a boiling pot of water too. Dude, put your fucking head down and run over a CB for the TD. I went from rooting for the Chiefs to rooting for the Niners after watching his pansy ass.


I was around someone who "wondered" about him.

Scotty Pods minced. No one "wondered" about him. What was the word? Metrosexual?

Please, let's assume my Mahomey is metrosexual.


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He has a top 10 WR and one of the best if not the best TE in the game. He doesn't complete passes to them every down. In fact, Hill missed 5 games this year. KC's record without Hill was 4-1. That's on Mahomes.

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Mahomes has a better QB skill set than Mitch. Period end of discussion.


Is there anyone on the planet who has argued differently since Week 1 of the 2018 season?

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He has a top 10 WR and one of the best if not the best TE in the game. He doesn't complete passes to them every down. In fact, Hill missed 5 games this year. KC's record without Hill was 4-1. That's on Mahomes.


We're having a GOAT discussion about Mahomes for a reason. That doesn't change what he has to work with.

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Mahomes has the best collection of weapons in the NFL. That's not debatable.


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He has a top 10 WR and one of the best if not the best TE in the game. He doesn't complete passes to them every down. In fact, Hill missed 5 games this year. KC's record without Hill was 4-1. That's on Mahomes.


We're having a GOAT discussion about Mahomes for a reason. That doesn't change what he has to work with.

The GOAT discussion is as bad as the Kansas City, Kansas discussion. Brady has been in 9 Super Bowls.

Get back to me in a decade. MAYBE.


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He has a top 10 WR and one of the best if not the best TE in the game. He doesn't complete passes to them every down. In fact, Hill missed 5 games this year. KC's record without Hill was 4-1. That's on Mahomes.


We're having a GOAT discussion about Mahomes for a reason. That doesn't change what he has to work with.

The GOAT discussion is as bad as the Kansas City, Kansas discussion. Brady has been in 9 Super Bowls.

Get back to me in a decade. MAYBE.


We're projecting. I think most of the discussion was about him being the best quarterback in the NFL now. FF believes it's Lamar Jackson.

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