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Author:  Caller Bob [ Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:11 pm ]
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RFDC wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
I just don't know how anyone can say with a straight face that Matt Patricia is a better choice for the Lions than Jim Caldwell.


Because Caldwell is terrible.

No idea if Patricia will be better or not, but it is not a high bar to clear.


Caldwell was 36-28 in four seasons in Detroit with a playoff appearance. I'm not sure if you can define that as terrible, especially for the Lions franchise.

A great example of why overall record is not an end all for how good or bad a coach is.

:lol: :lol: How do you evaluate coaches? By height? No offense but that is some 'Rube shit right there.

I did not say it was not part of the evaluation. But it is not all there is in it.

Caldwell has been a terrible game coach. His teams are not prepared. He makes terrible decisions in games and especially with clock management.


If he was terrible, I don't think his teams would have been 36-28 over 4 years.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:23 pm ]
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He went 11-5 in year one. Then he went 7-9, 9-7, & 9-7. He was 0-2 in the playoffs.

Thats mediocre at best.
Author:  Caller Bob [ Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:24 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
He went 11-5 in year one. Then he went 7-9, 9-7, & 9-7. He was 0-2 in the playoffs.

Thats mediocre at best.


Mediocre is a fair take. But not terrible.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:25 pm ]
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Read the thread. Nobody called him a terrible coach.
Author:  Caller Bob [ Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What was up with Malcolm Butler?
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Read the thread. Nobody called him a terrible coach.

RFDC wrote:
Caldwell is terrible.
Author:  RFDC [ Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:28 pm ]
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Caller Bob wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
He went 11-5 in year one. Then he went 7-9, 9-7, & 9-7. He was 0-2 in the playoffs.

Thats mediocre at best.


Mediocre is a fair take. But not terrible.

So the Lions should keep a mediocre coach?

Why? Mediocre is not acceptable, especially when they have had so much talent.

Terrible..mediocre...either way the Lions should try for better. Patricia may or may not be the answer, but they definitely should not just settle for mediocre.
Author:  FavreFan [ Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:06 pm ]
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Caller Bob wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Read the thread. Nobody called him a terrible coach.

RFDC wrote:
Caldwell is terrible.

:lol:
Author:  Tall Midget [ Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:08 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Read the thread. Nobody called him a terrible coach.

RFDC wrote:
Caldwell is terrible.

:lol:

:lol: :lol:
Author:  Furious Styles [ Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:09 pm ]
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Caller Bob wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Read the thread. Nobody called him a terrible coach.

RFDC wrote:
Caldwell is terrible.

:lol:
Author:  Juiced [ Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:16 pm ]
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Tall Midget wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Read the thread. Nobody called him a terrible coach.

RFDC wrote:
Caldwell is terrible.

:lol:

:lol: :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Author:  Darkside [ Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:54 pm ]
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Ok... back on topic... Bernstein and that other fella had someone on today who had some info on this deal but I missed it because of a crazy bitch and her humidifier. Did anyone catch it?
Author:  Don Tiny [ Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:56 pm ]
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Frank thinks RFDC is a nobody ... very unfair, very sad.
Author:  Urlacher's missing neck [ Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:03 pm ]
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How long are they going to keep the lid on this thing? I saw the rumor where he broke curfew, got popped for weed possession and then got into it with BB.
Author:  Nas [ Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:08 pm ]
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He still should play.
Author:  RFDC [ Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:17 pm ]
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Don Tiny wrote:
Frank thinks RFDC is a nobody ... very unfair, very sad.

I would say he has me on ignore, but since I am a Cubs fan we know that isn't true
Author:  Darkside [ Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:18 pm ]
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Rfdc is a putz
But he's my putz.
And I love him.
But I also love frank.
This is hard.
Author:  RFDC [ Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:20 pm ]
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Darkside wrote:
Rfdc is a putz
But he's my putz.
And I love him.
But I also love frank.
This is hard.

:D
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:29 pm ]
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Don Tiny wrote:
Frank thinks RFDC is a nobody ... very unfair, very sad.

Thinks?
Author:  RFDC [ Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:31 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
Frank thinks RFDC is a nobody ... very unfair, very sad.

Thinks?

I would ignore how bad Bob made you look too. :wink:
Author:  Don Tiny [ Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:43 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
Frank thinks RFDC is a nobody ... very unfair, very sad.

Thinks?

I figured Bob would've posted that reply first.
Author:  K Effective [ Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:46 pm ]
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Maybe Butler makes a play his replacement does not make, maybe not, we'll never know. Sounds like there were only two passes to defend, may have been less for Butler.

Most total yards on any NFL game, ever. How do you get there? Only one recorded sack. We all could see that downfield contact by DBs was not only not flagged, but practically encouraged. Were the refs also just ignoring any and all holding, thus allowing the two QBs enough time to throw it all over the yard? I saw Brady got hit more than a couple of times, but not early enough to make that big of a difference.
Author:  Beardown [ Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:18 pm ]
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If Butler just made a simple play to stop them getting a 1st down and made them punt it might have changed the outcome of the game. Not talking an INT. Just batting away a throw. Or defending a guy well and getting a sack because of it. Whatever.

Belicheck's ego got in front of him winning a Super Bowl. He doesn't think so. But that's because his ego is always talking to him.

Belicheck pretends to be this humble guy that's team first. That everything is about the team. But that's never been true about him. He's a great coach. Obviously. But he might have cost NE this SB because of his ego.
Author:  RFDC [ Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:22 pm ]
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And if he lets him play and word gets out that he violated team rules and nothing was done then people are criticizing him for that as well.
Author:  Nas [ Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:25 pm ]
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RFDC wrote:
And if he lets him play and word gets out that he violated team rules and nothing was done then people are criticizing him for that as well.


I disagree. #HermEdwardsQuote
Author:  Beardown [ Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:34 pm ]
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RFDC wrote:
And if he lets him play and word gets out that he violated team rules and nothing was done then people are criticizing him for that as well.


What could he have done that was so bad? Out too late drinking during SB week? So what? You fine him. He wasn't arrested or else we would have known that. So whatever he didn't wasn't that bad.

Not that Brady would ever break a rule, but he would have started him if he had.
Author:  Jaw Breaker [ Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:35 pm ]
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Darkside wrote:
Ok... back on topic... Bernstein and that other fella had someone on today who had some info on this deal but I missed it because of a crazy bitch and her humidifier. Did anyone catch it?


The guy didn't really know, but he said it would come out eventually. He thought Butler was demoted after the Jaguar game, but it wasn't known if he then broke team rules, curfew, etc.
Author:  312player [ Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:37 pm ]
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Beardown wrote:
RFDC wrote:
And if he lets him play and word gets out that he violated team rules and nothing was done then people are criticizing him for that as well.


What could he have done that was so bad? Out too late drinking during SB week? So what? You fine him. He wasn't arrested or else we would have known that. So whatever he didn't wasn't that bad.

Not that Brady would ever break a rule, but he would have started him if he had.


BB don't play when it comes to being on time, there was a guy who had a huge 2 game run at running back( I think) he was 5 minutes late for film study a few years ago and he was benched and kicked off the team a week later.
Author:  Beardown [ Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:39 pm ]
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312player wrote:
Beardown wrote:
RFDC wrote:
And if he lets him play and word gets out that he violated team rules and nothing was done then people are criticizing him for that as well.


What could he have done that was so bad? Out too late drinking during SB week? So what? You fine him. He wasn't arrested or else we would have known that. So whatever he didn't wasn't that bad.

Not that Brady would ever break a rule, but he would have started him if he had.


BB don't play when it comes to being on time, there was a guy who had a huge 2 game run at running back( I think) he was 5 minutes late for film study a few years ago and he was benched and kicked off the team a week later.


Ok. You're right. If Brady would have been 5 minutes late for a meeting BB would have benched him for the SB. :roll: You're an idiot.
Author:  Darkside [ Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:43 pm ]
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Jaw Breaker wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Ok... back on topic... Bernstein and that other fella had someone on today who had some info on this deal but I missed it because of a crazy bitch and her humidifier. Did anyone catch it?


The guy didn't really know, but he said it would come out eventually. He thought Butler was demoted after the Jaguar game, but it wasn't known if he then broke team rules, curfew, etc.

I thank you.
Author:  312player [ Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:49 pm ]
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Beardown wrote:
312player wrote:
Beardown wrote:
RFDC wrote:
And if he lets him play and word gets out that he violated team rules and nothing was done then people are criticizing him for that as well.


What could he have done that was so bad? Out too late drinking during SB week? So what? You fine him. He wasn't arrested or else we would have known that. So whatever he didn't wasn't that bad.

Not that Brady would ever break a rule, but he would have started him if he had.


BB don't play when it comes to being on time, there was a guy who had a huge 2 game run at running back( I think) he was 5 minutes late for film study a few years ago and he was benched and kicked off the team a week later.


Ok. You're right. If Brady would have been 5 minutes late for a meeting BB would have benched him for the SB. :roll: You're an idiot.




Brady is in the building before BB dummy, That's what sets the tone.
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