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Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Detroit Lions
Sure, why not.

Kmet had a nice first half on Sunday. Then he disappeared. Money well spent!
Author:  Nardi [ Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Detroit Lions
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Sure, why not.

Kmet had a nice first half on Sunday. Then he disappeared. Money well spent!

He had a 1st down on a button hook late in the game but the QB misread it for some insane reason.
Author:  good dolphin [ Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Detroit Lions
Frank Coztansa wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
you know which tight end has very similar numbers, but "sucks"
You would be killing $50 million Kmet if he didn't go to Notre Dame.

Kmet has fewer catches, fewer yards, and fewer wins. He's also been around for 54 games. LaPorta has been around for 4. LaPorta may pass Kmet in career TD catches this season.


He doesn't even have as many td as Kmet this year. They are feeding him the ball as he is 4th in the league in targets for a TE.

We've been through the $50 issue. His aav is 10th for te, in line with recent contracts like jonuu smith and hunter henry. It's nothing outrageous. Maybe a touch high, but very much within the market rate.

I don't know where you get this idea that I am a huge ND fan. I don't dislike them but unlike the NFL I don't have a team in the NCAA. Northwestern would be my closest thing to a team. I try to go to one ND game every year because that is the closest/best college football atmosphere.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Detroit Lions
good dolphin wrote:
We've been through the $50 issue.
We have, and you seem to think its fine. Truly, its not. Guys like Kmet are not worth $50milion. Don't @me with his targets because a lot of them are checkdowns. I don't really care if he catches a 7 yard pass on 3rd & 11.

good dolphin wrote:
I don't know where you get this idea that I am a huge ND fan.
You're a catholic. If Kmet came from a public university you would crucify him and Poles for giving him that much money.
Author:  good dolphin [ Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Detroit Lions
Nas wrote:
Kmet is just a guy. You don't give "guys" $50M for being good teammates.


take a look at the te contracts. That is the going rate for a tight end with some production who is not playing on his rookie deal. He's the same aav as Jonuu Smith and Hunter Henry, and Smith wasn't even signed to be the Falcons #1 TE.

we are just relitigating an identical matter from the summer.
Author:  Nas [ Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Detroit Lions
good dolphin wrote:
Nas wrote:
Kmet is just a guy. You don't give "guys" $50M for being good teammates.


take a look at the te contracts. That is the going rate for a tight end with some production who is not playing on his rookie deal. He's the same aav as Jonuu Smith and Hunter Henry, and Smith wasn't even signed to be the Falcons #1 TE.

we are just relitigating an identical matter from the summer.


Good Catholic Dolphin, I would prefer to pay a Robert Tonyan every year instead of giving Kmet $50M.
Author:  good dolphin [ Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Detroit Lions
Frank Coztansa wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
We've been through the $50 issue.
We have, and you seem to think its fine. Truly, its not. Guys like Kmet are not worth $50milion. Don't @me with his targets because a lot of them are checkdowns. I don't really care if he catches a 7 yard pass on 3rd & 11.

good dolphin wrote:
I don't know where you get this idea that I am a huge ND fan.
You're a catholic. If Kmet came from a public university you would crucify him and Poles for giving him that much money.


I'll be pushing the HOF candidacy of Matt Ryan soon enough.

There are so many more reasons above ND that I'd be inclined to like Kmet: he's a lifelong bear fan from the chicago area. He's from my general region. He's a close friend's family. I wouldn't even be surprised if he has looked at this board at some point in his life.

The guy is a productive player who justified his draft spot, wanted to play here and earned a second contract.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Tue Oct 03, 2023 1:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Detroit Lions
good dolphin wrote:
The guy is a productive player who justified his draft spot, wanted to play here and earned a second contract.
All this can be true and he can still be well overpaid. And he is.
Author:  Nardi [ Tue Oct 03, 2023 1:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Detroit Lions
Hi, Cole.
Author:  good dolphin [ Tue Oct 03, 2023 1:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Detroit Lions
Nas wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Nas wrote:
Kmet is just a guy. You don't give "guys" $50M for being good teammates.


take a look at the te contracts. That is the going rate for a tight end with some production who is not playing on his rookie deal. He's the same aav as Jonuu Smith and Hunter Henry, and Smith wasn't even signed to be the Falcons #1 TE.

we are just relitigating an identical matter from the summer.


Good Catholic Dolphin, I would prefer to pay a Robert Tonyan every year instead of giving Kmet $50M.


Tonyan is one of the many pass catchers in this league created entirely by Aaron Rodgers.
Author:  Nas [ Tue Oct 03, 2023 1:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Detroit Lions
good dolphin wrote:
Nas wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Nas wrote:
Kmet is just a guy. You don't give "guys" $50M for being good teammates.


take a look at the te contracts. That is the going rate for a tight end with some production who is not playing on his rookie deal. He's the same aav as Jonuu Smith and Hunter Henry, and Smith wasn't even signed to be the Falcons #1 TE.

we are just relitigating an identical matter from the summer.


Good Catholic Dolphin, I would prefer to pay a Robert Tonyan every year instead of giving Kmet $50M.


Tonyan is one of the many pass catchers in this league created entirely by Aaron Rodgers.


Works for me. I'm waiting for Bowers.
Author:  good dolphin [ Tue Oct 03, 2023 1:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Detroit Lions
Frank Coztansa wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
The guy is a productive player who justified his draft spot, wanted to play here and earned a second contract.
All this can be true and he can still be well overpaid. And he is.


Remember Nas pimping for Dalton Shultz? He's being paid half of what Kmet is getting and produced 10 catches for 89 yards in an offense that is throwing the ball 38 times a game
Author:  good dolphin [ Tue Oct 03, 2023 1:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Detroit Lions
Nas wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Nas wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Nas wrote:
Kmet is just a guy. You don't give "guys" $50M for being good teammates.


take a look at the te contracts. That is the going rate for a tight end with some production who is not playing on his rookie deal. He's the same aav as Jonuu Smith and Hunter Henry, and Smith wasn't even signed to be the Falcons #1 TE.

we are just relitigating an identical matter from the summer.


Good Catholic Dolphin, I would prefer to pay a Robert Tonyan every year instead of giving Kmet $50M.


Tonyan is one of the many pass catchers in this league created entirely by Aaron Rodgers.


Works for me. I'm waiting for Bowers.


That's the beauty of the contract. You can afford both, as the Falcons are doing with Pitts/Smith, Pats are doing with Henry/Gesicki, Bills are doing with Knox/Kincaid, etc.
Author:  Nas [ Tue Oct 03, 2023 1:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Detroit Lions
good dolphin wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
The guy is a productive player who justified his draft spot, wanted to play here and earned a second contract.
All this can be true and he can still be well overpaid. And he is.


Remember Nas pimping for Dalton Shultz? He's being paid half of what Kmet is getting and produced 10 catches for 89 yards in an offense that is throwing the ball 38 times a game


Kmet has 25% of Fields' completions. That reality is an indictment of Fields. It says nothing about Kmet as a player. Dalton Schultz is a better blocker and receiver than Kmet.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Tue Oct 03, 2023 1:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Detroit Lions
good dolphin wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
The guy is a productive player who justified his draft spot, wanted to play here and earned a second contract.
All this can be true and he can still be well overpaid. And he is.


Remember Nas pimping for Dalton Shultz? He's being paid half of what Kmet is getting and produced 10 catches for 89 yards in an offense that is throwing the ball 38 times a game
Kmet should be getting paid half of what he is.


I do remember this;
good dolphin wrote:
I think [Kmet] has the career similar statistics and compares to Kyle Rudolph.

Image
Author:  good dolphin [ Tue Oct 03, 2023 1:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Detroit Lions
Frank Coztansa wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
The guy is a productive player who justified his draft spot, wanted to play here and earned a second contract.
All this can be true and he can still be well overpaid. And he is.


Remember Nas pimping for Dalton Shultz? He's being paid half of what Kmet is getting and produced 10 catches for 89 yards in an offense that is throwing the ball 38 times a game
Kmet should be getting paid half of what he is.


I do remember this;
good dolphin wrote:
I think [Kmet] has the career similar statistics and compares to Kyle Rudolph.

Image


and he does
Author:  blackhawksfan [ Wed Oct 04, 2023 10:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Detroit Lions
The rich get richer, the Bears get.......

Author:  KDdidit [ Thu Oct 05, 2023 3:07 pm ]
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Author:  BigW72 [ Thu Oct 05, 2023 3:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Detroit Lions
good dolphin wrote:
Nas wrote:
Kmet is just a guy. You don't give "guys" $50M for being good teammates.


take a look at the te contracts. That is the going rate for a tight end with some production who is not playing on his rookie deal. He's the same aav as Jonuu Smith and Hunter Henry, and Smith wasn't even signed to be the Falcons #1 TE.

we are just relitigating an identical matter from the summer.

We are relitigating because we still do not have agreement. Nas is entirely correct here (IMO). Kmet is just a guy. You are also correct in that he's on his 2nd contract and isn't a complete bust.

I guess I'm ok with signing him the 2nd contract, but it was worth more many than he's demonstrated. He's just not anything special.
Author:  good dolphin [ Thu Oct 05, 2023 8:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Detroit Lions
I don’t demand apologies
Author:  Nardi [ Thu Oct 05, 2023 8:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Detroit Lions
Herb Kirkstreet loves him.
Author:  blackhawksfan [ Sun Oct 08, 2023 2:56 pm ]
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Author:  312player [ Thu Oct 12, 2023 4:05 am ]
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When they play SF for the NFC it should be a great game, Goff is significantly better in domes though.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Wed Oct 25, 2023 11:53 am ]
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Author:  312player [ Sun Jan 07, 2024 10:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Detroit Lions
Goff is still their weak point, he's not good on the road or outside most games.

LaPorta looking like the best TE in the league. Gibbs getting more touches and looks like a top 5 back.
I like Cambell but that 2 point conversion 3x against Dallas was dumb AF.. cost them a chance at bye.
Author:  312player [ Thu Jan 18, 2024 7:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Detroit Lions
Minus 6.5 seems too easy.. I'm taking it anyway. They should get it done in the area of 30- 17
Author:  312player [ Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:27 pm ]
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Author:  312player [ Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:28 pm ]
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Decibel record set at Detroit, Baker ain't ready for this atmosphere. Should be a curb stomping.
Author:  Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:52 pm ]
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312player wrote:
Decibel record set at Detroit, Baker ain't ready for this atmosphere. Should be a curb stomping.

Didn’t you have Philly stomping Tampa? I get doubting both Mayfield and Goff but it’s also undeniable that they have both been very good this season.
Author:  Caller Bob [ Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Detroit Lions
Thanks to the Philly collapse, the Lions will likely be on of the worst NFC Championship participants in recent memory.
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