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Hawg Ass wrote:

Couch and Russell are really the only true bust to me. I think Bradford and his shoulder got him but I don’t consider any others a bust

You don't consider Winston a bust?

Caller Bob wrote:

Hawg Ass wrote:

Couch and Russell are really the only true bust to me. I think Bradford and his shoulder got him but I don’t consider any others a bust

You don't consider Winston a bust?

No sir

18 times in the last 25 years NFL teams and their fans came out of draft day after selecting a QB 1/1 thinking We're goin' to the Super Bowl! and not one of those teams who drafted a QB 1st overall has won a Super Bowl with that QB.

3 teams have had the joy of losing a Super Bowl with their 1/1 QB.

Bryce Young ever gets anywhere near the playoffs or wins a Super Bowl it will be with a team not owned by David Tepper.

Burrow might still get it done; but he could also end up retiring early due to his chronic injury issues, like Luck. Or the Bengals make the Super Bowl with Burrow injured on the sidelines while Jake Browning QB-cucks his way to a Super Bowl, a la Earl Morrall and Bob Griese.

Hawg Ass wrote:

Couch and Russell are really the only true bust to me. I think Bradford and his shoulder got him but I don’t consider any others a bust

You don't consider Winston a bust?

Caller Bob wrote:

Hawg Ass wrote:

Couch and Russell are really the only true bust to me. I think Bradford and his shoulder got him but I don’t consider any others a bust

You don't consider Winston a bust?

He threw for 5000 yards and 30 touchdowns and 4000 yards 3 times.

Nas wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

Hawg Ass wrote:

Couch and Russell are really the only true bust to me. I think Bradford and his shoulder got him but I don’t consider any others a bust

You don't consider Winston a bust?

He threw for 5000 yards and 30 touchdowns and 4000 yards 3 times.

He's the 3rd QB on the Saints

1967: Bubba Smith, DE, Michigan State – Baltimore Colts
1968: Ron Yary, OT, USC – Minnesota Vikings
1969: O.J. Simpson, RB, USC – Buffalo Bills
1970: Terry Bradshaw, QB, Louisiana Tech – Pittsburgh Steelers
1971: Jim Plunkett, QB, Stanford – New England Patriots
1972: Walt Patulski, DE, Notre Dame – Buffalo Bills
1973: John Matuszak, DE, Tampa – Houston Oilers
1974: Ed "Too Tall" Jones, DE, Tennessee State – Dallas Cowboys
1975: Steve Bartkowski, QB, California – Atlanta Falcons
1976: Lee Roy Selmon, DE, Oklahoma – Tampa Bay Buccaneers
1977: Ricky Bell, RB, USC – Tampa Bay Buccaneers
1978: Earl Campbell, RB, Texas – Houston Oilers
1979: Tom Cousineau, LB, Ohio State – Buffalo Bills
1980: Billy Sims, RB, Oklahoma – Detroit Lions
1981: George Rogers, RB, South Carolina – New Orleans Saints
1982: Kenneth Sims, DT, Texas – New England Patriots
1983: John Elway, QB, Stanford – Baltimore Colts (later traded to the Denver Broncos)
1984: Irving Fryar, WR, Nebraska – New England Patriots
1985: Bruce Smith, DE, Virginia Tech – Buffalo Bills
1986: Bo Jackson, RB, Auburn – Tampa Bay Buccaneers
1987: Vinny Testaverde, QB, Miami (FL) – Tampa Bay Buccaneers
1988: Aundray Bruce, LB, Auburn – Atlanta Falcons
1989: Troy Aikman, QB, UCLA – Dallas Cowboys
1990: Jeff George, QB, Illinois – Indianapolis Colts
1991: Russell Maryland, DT, Miami (FL) – Dallas Cowboys
1992: Steve Emtman, DT, Washington – Indianapolis Colts
1993: Drew Bledsoe, QB, Washington State – New England Patriots
1994: Dan Wilkinson, DT, Ohio State – Cincinnati Bengals
1995: Ki-Jana Carter, RB, Penn State – Cincinnati Bengals
1996: Keyshawn Johnson, WR, USC – New York Jets
1997: Orlando Pace, OT, Ohio State – St. Louis Rams
1998: Peyton Manning, QB, Tennessee – Indianapolis Colts
1999: Tim Couch, QB, Kentucky – Cleveland Browns
2000: Courtney Brown, DE, Penn State – Cleveland Browns
2001: Michael Vick, QB, Virginia Tech – Atlanta Falcons
2002: David Carr, QB, Fresno State – Houston Texans
2003: Carson Palmer, QB, USC – Cincinnati Bengals
2004: Eli Manning, QB, Ole Miss – San Diego Chargers (later traded to the New York Giants)
2005: Alex Smith, QB, Utah – San Francisco 49ers
2006: Mario Williams, DE, NC State – Houston Texans
2007: JaMarcus Russell, QB, LSU – Oakland Raiders
2008: Jake Long, OT, Michigan – Miami Dolphins
2009: Matthew Stafford, QB, Georgia – Detroit Lions
2010: Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma – St. Louis Rams
2011: Cam Newton, QB, Auburn – Carolina Panthers
2012: Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford – Indianapolis Colts
2013: Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan – Kansas City Chiefs
2014: Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina – Houston Texans
2015: Jameis Winston, QB, Florida State – Tampa Bay Buccaneers
2016: Jared Goff, QB, California – Los Angeles Rams
2017: Myles Garrett, DE, Texas A&M – Cleveland Browns
2018: Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma – Cleveland Browns
2019: Kyler Murray, QB, Oklahoma – Arizona Cardinals
2020: Joe Burrow, QB, LSU – Cincinnati Bengals
2021: Trevor Lawrence, QB, Clemson – Jacksonville Jaguars
2022: Travon Walker, DE, – Jacksonville Jaguars
2023: Bryce Young, QB, – Carolina Panthers
2024:

Not a lot of quarterbacks that were complete busts. Most of the players on this list had great or productive careers. Someone can fact check me, but I counted 28 Super Bowl rings and 7 Super Bowl appearances by players that didn't win a ring.

Nas wrote:

More busts than HOFers on that list and way more flash-in-the-pan success than consistent stardom.

Yeah true but you take your best stab at an HoF QB. It is the single most important thing to an NFL football team.

denisdman wrote:

Yeah true but you take your best stab at an HoF QB. It is the single most important thing to an NFL football team.

Agreed. And for the record I would take Caleb. I also think he will be the 3rd best QB in the North next season.

denisdman wrote:

Yeah true but you take your best stab at an HoF QB. It is the single most important thing to an NFL football team.

Agreed. And for the record I would take Caleb. I also think he will be the 3rd best QB in the North next season.

Hawg Ass wrote:

Couch and Russell are really the only true bust to me. I think Bradford and his shoulder got him but I don’t consider any others a bust

You don't consider Winston a bust?

I can't talk about football with Packers fans, you people are beneath us Bears fans. Enjoy our scraps until the 2040s.

Nas wrote:

I can't talk about football with Packers fans, you people are beneath us Bears fans. Enjoy our scraps until the 2040s.

I think the Packers are roughly 47-13 over the last 30 years.

#2018

Hawg Ass wrote:

Nas wrote:

I can't talk about football with Packers fans, you people are beneath us Bears fans. Enjoy our scraps until the 2040s.

I think the Packers are roughly 47-13 over the last 30 years.

#2018

The past is for... :wink:

How many of the SB winners were only 6’1”?

denisdman wrote:

Yeah true but you take your best stab at an HoF QB. It is the single most important thing to an NFL football team.

Agreed. And for the record I would take Caleb. I also think he will be the 3rd best QB in the North next season.

When did Jared Groff become a QB great?

If given decent odds, I would wager that C-Will will put up better numbers than Love next season.

Nas wrote:

If given decent odds, I would wager that C-Will will put up better numbers than Love next season.

If you are asking for decent odds, then you are acknowledging that you believe Love will be better. That's your best QB thought in a while though. :wink:

Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:

Nas wrote:

If given decent odds, I would wager that C-Will will put up better numbers than Love next season.

If you are asking for decent odds, then you are acknowledging that you believe Love will be better. That's your best QB thought in a while though. :wink:

That means you should offer me 20-1 odds and allow me to set $200 on fire. We would be talking about not only UNPRECEDENTED production from a rookie quarterback but a Bears quarterback breaking records.

Nas wrote:

Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:

Nas wrote:

If given decent odds, I would wager that C-Will will put up better numbers than Love next season.

If you are asking for decent odds, then you are acknowledging that you believe Love will be better. That's your best QB thought in a while though. :wink:

Here's what I suggest. Love is +4000 for offensive player of the year and Williams is +10000. Make the odds 2.5-1.

Nardi wrote:

Nas wrote:

Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:

Nas wrote:

If given decent odds, I would wager that C-Will will put up better numbers than Love next season.

If you are asking for decent odds, then you are acknowledging that you believe Love will be better. That's your best QB thought in a while though. :wink:

Here's what I suggest. Love is +4000 for offensive player of the year and Williams is +10000. Make the odds 2.5-1.

How do we factor in the Bears historic suckage at the quarterback position and the Packers breeding HoF quarterbacks?

Author:	Hawg Ass [ Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:27 pm ]
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Caller Bob wrote: Hawg Ass wrote: Couch and Russell are really the only true bust to me. I think Bradford and his shoulder got him but I don’t consider any others a bust You don't consider Winston a bust? No sir

Author:	Caller Bob [ Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:29 pm ]
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Hawg Ass wrote: Caller Bob wrote: Hawg Ass wrote: Couch and Russell are really the only true bust to me. I think Bradford and his shoulder got him but I don’t consider any others a bust You don't consider Winston a bust? No sir That's a reality bizarre take

Author:	Darkside [ Wed Mar 20, 2024 6:20 pm ]
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Hussra wrote: 18 times in the last 25 years NFL teams and their fans came out of draft day after selecting a QB 1/1 thinking We're goin' to the Super Bowl! and not one of those teams who drafted a QB 1st overall has won a Super Bowl with that QB. 3 teams have had the joy of losing a Super Bowl with their 1/1 QB. Bryce Young ever gets anywhere near the playoffs or wins a Super Bowl it will be with a team not owned by David Tepper. Burrow might still get it done; but he could also end up retiring early due to his chronic injury issues, like Luck. Or the Bengals make the Super Bowl with Burrow injured on the sidelines while Jake Browning QB-cucks his way to a Super Bowl, a la Earl Morrall and Bob Griese. I guess nobody should draft a quarterback.

Author:	Nas [ Wed Mar 20, 2024 6:41 pm ]
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Caller Bob wrote: Hawg Ass wrote: Couch and Russell are really the only true bust to me. I think Bradford and his shoulder got him but I don’t consider any others a bust You don't consider Winston a bust? He threw for 5000 yards and 30 touchdowns and 4000 yards 3 times.

Author:	Caller Bob [ Wed Mar 20, 2024 6:48 pm ]
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Nas wrote: Caller Bob wrote: Hawg Ass wrote: Couch and Russell are really the only true bust to me. I think Bradford and his shoulder got him but I don’t consider any others a bust You don't consider Winston a bust? He threw for 5000 yards and 30 touchdowns and 4000 yards 3 times. He's the 3rd QB on the Saints

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Author:	Nas [ Wed Mar 20, 2024 7:15 pm ]
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Caller Bob wrote: Nas wrote: Caller Bob wrote: Hawg Ass wrote: Couch and Russell are really the only true bust to me. I think Bradford and his shoulder got him but I don’t consider any others a bust You don't consider Winston a bust? He threw for 5000 yards and 30 touchdowns and 4000 yards 3 times. He's the 3rd QB on the Saints Life comes at you fast when TB12 comes to take your job.

Author:	Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Wed Mar 20, 2024 7:32 pm ]
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Nas wrote: 1967: Bubba Smith, DE, Michigan State – Baltimore Colts 1968: Ron Yary, OT, USC – Minnesota Vikings 1969: O.J. Simpson, RB, USC – Buffalo Bills 1970: Terry Bradshaw, QB, Louisiana Tech – Pittsburgh Steelers 1971: Jim Plunkett, QB, Stanford – New England Patriots 1972: Walt Patulski, DE, Notre Dame – Buffalo Bills 1973: John Matuszak, DE, Tampa – Houston Oilers 1974: Ed "Too Tall" Jones, DE, Tennessee State – Dallas Cowboys 1975: Steve Bartkowski, QB, California – Atlanta Falcons 1976: Lee Roy Selmon, DE, Oklahoma – Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1977: Ricky Bell, RB, USC – Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1978: Earl Campbell, RB, Texas – Houston Oilers 1979: Tom Cousineau, LB, Ohio State – Buffalo Bills 1980: Billy Sims, RB, Oklahoma – Detroit Lions 1981: George Rogers, RB, South Carolina – New Orleans Saints 1982: Kenneth Sims, DT, Texas – New England Patriots 1983: John Elway, QB, Stanford – Baltimore Colts (later traded to the Denver Broncos) 1984: Irving Fryar, WR, Nebraska – New England Patriots 1985: Bruce Smith, DE, Virginia Tech – Buffalo Bills 1986: Bo Jackson, RB, Auburn – Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1987: Vinny Testaverde, QB, Miami (FL) – Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1988: Aundray Bruce, LB, Auburn – Atlanta Falcons 1989: Troy Aikman, QB, UCLA – Dallas Cowboys 1990: Jeff George, QB, Illinois – Indianapolis Colts 1991: Russell Maryland, DT, Miami (FL) – Dallas Cowboys 1992: Steve Emtman, DT, Washington – Indianapolis Colts 1993: Drew Bledsoe, QB, Washington State – New England Patriots 1994: Dan Wilkinson, DT, Ohio State – Cincinnati Bengals 1995: Ki-Jana Carter, RB, Penn State – Cincinnati Bengals 1996: Keyshawn Johnson, WR, USC – New York Jets 1997: Orlando Pace, OT, Ohio State – St. Louis Rams 1998: Peyton Manning, QB, Tennessee – Indianapolis Colts 1999: Tim Couch, QB, Kentucky – Cleveland Browns 2000: Courtney Brown, DE, Penn State – Cleveland Browns 2001: Michael Vick, QB, Virginia Tech – Atlanta Falcons 2002: David Carr, QB, Fresno State – Houston Texans 2003: Carson Palmer, QB, USC – Cincinnati Bengals 2004: Eli Manning, QB, Ole Miss – San Diego Chargers (later traded to the New York Giants) 2005: Alex Smith, QB, Utah – San Francisco 49ers 2006: Mario Williams, DE, NC State – Houston Texans 2007: JaMarcus Russell, QB, LSU – Oakland Raiders 2008: Jake Long, OT, Michigan – Miami Dolphins 2009: Matthew Stafford, QB, Georgia – Detroit Lions 2010: Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma – St. Louis Rams 2011: Cam Newton, QB, Auburn – Carolina Panthers 2012: Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford – Indianapolis Colts 2013: Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan – Kansas City Chiefs 2014: Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina – Houston Texans 2015: Jameis Winston, QB, Florida State – Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2016: Jared Goff, QB, California – Los Angeles Rams 2017: Myles Garrett, DE, Texas A&M – Cleveland Browns 2018: Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma – Cleveland Browns 2019: Kyler Murray, QB, Oklahoma – Arizona Cardinals 2020: Joe Burrow, QB, LSU – Cincinnati Bengals 2021: Trevor Lawrence, QB, Clemson – Jacksonville Jaguars 2022: Travon Walker, DE, – Jacksonville Jaguars 2023: Bryce Young, QB, – Carolina Panthers 2024: Not a lot of quarterbacks that were complete busts. Most of the players on this list had great or productive careers. Someone can fact check me, but I counted 28 Super Bowl rings and 7 Super Bowl appearances by players that didn't win a ring. More busts than HOFers on that list and way more flash-in-the-pan success than consistent stardom.

Author:	Nas [ Wed Mar 20, 2024 7:37 pm ]
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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote: Nas wrote: 1967: Bubba Smith, DE, Michigan State – Baltimore Colts 1968: Ron Yary, OT, USC – Minnesota Vikings 1969: O.J. Simpson, RB, USC – Buffalo Bills 1970: Terry Bradshaw, QB, Louisiana Tech – Pittsburgh Steelers 1971: Jim Plunkett, QB, Stanford – New England Patriots 1972: Walt Patulski, DE, Notre Dame – Buffalo Bills 1973: John Matuszak, DE, Tampa – Houston Oilers 1974: Ed "Too Tall" Jones, DE, Tennessee State – Dallas Cowboys 1975: Steve Bartkowski, QB, California – Atlanta Falcons 1976: Lee Roy Selmon, DE, Oklahoma – Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1977: Ricky Bell, RB, USC – Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1978: Earl Campbell, RB, Texas – Houston Oilers 1979: Tom Cousineau, LB, Ohio State – Buffalo Bills 1980: Billy Sims, RB, Oklahoma – Detroit Lions 1981: George Rogers, RB, South Carolina – New Orleans Saints 1982: Kenneth Sims, DT, Texas – New England Patriots 1983: John Elway, QB, Stanford – Baltimore Colts (later traded to the Denver Broncos) 1984: Irving Fryar, WR, Nebraska – New England Patriots 1985: Bruce Smith, DE, Virginia Tech – Buffalo Bills 1986: Bo Jackson, RB, Auburn – Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1987: Vinny Testaverde, QB, Miami (FL) – Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1988: Aundray Bruce, LB, Auburn – Atlanta Falcons 1989: Troy Aikman, QB, UCLA – Dallas Cowboys 1990: Jeff George, QB, Illinois – Indianapolis Colts 1991: Russell Maryland, DT, Miami (FL) – Dallas Cowboys 1992: Steve Emtman, DT, Washington – Indianapolis Colts 1993: Drew Bledsoe, QB, Washington State – New England Patriots 1994: Dan Wilkinson, DT, Ohio State – Cincinnati Bengals 1995: Ki-Jana Carter, RB, Penn State – Cincinnati Bengals 1996: Keyshawn Johnson, WR, USC – New York Jets 1997: Orlando Pace, OT, Ohio State – St. Louis Rams 1998: Peyton Manning, QB, Tennessee – Indianapolis Colts 1999: Tim Couch, QB, Kentucky – Cleveland Browns 2000: Courtney Brown, DE, Penn State – Cleveland Browns 2001: Michael Vick, QB, Virginia Tech – Atlanta Falcons 2002: David Carr, QB, Fresno State – Houston Texans 2003: Carson Palmer, QB, USC – Cincinnati Bengals 2004: Eli Manning, QB, Ole Miss – San Diego Chargers (later traded to the New York Giants) 2005: Alex Smith, QB, Utah – San Francisco 49ers 2006: Mario Williams, DE, NC State – Houston Texans 2007: JaMarcus Russell, QB, LSU – Oakland Raiders 2008: Jake Long, OT, Michigan – Miami Dolphins 2009: Matthew Stafford, QB, Georgia – Detroit Lions 2010: Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma – St. Louis Rams 2011: Cam Newton, QB, Auburn – Carolina Panthers 2012: Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford – Indianapolis Colts 2013: Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan – Kansas City Chiefs 2014: Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina – Houston Texans 2015: Jameis Winston, QB, Florida State – Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2016: Jared Goff, QB, California – Los Angeles Rams 2017: Myles Garrett, DE, Texas A&M – Cleveland Browns 2018: Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma – Cleveland Browns 2019: Kyler Murray, QB, Oklahoma – Arizona Cardinals 2020: Joe Burrow, QB, LSU – Cincinnati Bengals 2021: Trevor Lawrence, QB, Clemson – Jacksonville Jaguars 2022: Travon Walker, DE, – Jacksonville Jaguars 2023: Bryce Young, QB, – Carolina Panthers 2024: Not a lot of quarterbacks that were complete busts. Most of the players on this list had great or productive careers. Someone can fact check me, but I counted 28 Super Bowl rings and 7 Super Bowl appearances by players that didn't win a ring. More busts than HOFers on that list and way more flash-in-the-pan success than consistent stardom. 35 Super Bowl appearances. No other pick comes close to this level of success.

Author:	denisdman [ Wed Mar 20, 2024 7:39 pm ]
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Yeah true but you take your best stab at an HoF QB. It is the single most important thing to an NFL football team.

Author:	denisdman [ Wed Mar 20, 2024 7:59 pm ]
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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote: denisdman wrote: Yeah true but you take your best stab at an HoF QB. It is the single most important thing to an NFL football team. Agreed. And for the record I would take Caleb. I also think he will be the 3rd best QB in the North next season. Lol all good.

Author:	Nas [ Wed Mar 20, 2024 8:07 pm ]
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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote: denisdman wrote: Yeah true but you take your best stab at an HoF QB. It is the single most important thing to an NFL football team. Agreed. And for the record I would take Caleb. I also think he will be the 3rd best QB in the North next season. Did the NFL move him into a division with Mahomes and Burrow?

Author:	312player [ Wed Mar 20, 2024 8:46 pm ]
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Caller Bob wrote: Hawg Ass wrote: Couch and Russell are really the only true bust to me. I think Bradford and his shoulder got him but I don’t consider any others a bust You don't consider Winston a bust? No.. he's basically Jay Cutler. He's never going to win shit, he's good enough to start and will turn the ball over too many times.

Author:	Caller Bob [ Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:17 pm ]
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He can't even see the field over Derek Carr and Taysom Hill. You're an idiot

Author:	Nas [ Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:38 pm ]
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I can't talk about football with Packers fans, you people are beneath us Bears fans. Enjoy our scraps until the 2040s.

Author:	Hussra [ Thu Mar 21, 2024 6:44 am ]
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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote: How many of the SB winners were only 6’1”? ZERO, at least in the NFL draft combine era: SIX-6 --------------------- Foles 6'6" 243 TX Flacco 6'6" 245 NJ SIX-5 -------------------- Peyton 6'5" 230 LA Johnson 6'5" 235 GA Eli 6'5" 220 LA Roethlisberger 6'5" 241 OH SIX-4 ------------------------- Brady 6'4" 225 CA Aikman 6'4" 219 CA Rypien 6'4" 225 Calgary Dilfer 6'4" 247 CA SIX-3 ------------------------------- Stafford 6'3" 220 FL Elway 6'3" 215 WA Jeff Hostetler 6'3" 215 PA SIX-2 ---------------------------- Warner 6'2" 222 IA KAaron 6'2" 225 CA Mahomes 6'2" 225 TX Favre 6'2" 224 MS SIX-1 --------------------------------- Six-One-Git-Er-Dun SIX-0 ---------------------------- Brees 6'0" 210 TX Little People --------------------------- Wilson 5'11" 210 OH Young - USFL - no combine - Listed at 6'2" actually 6', according to his Mormoning stories. Jimmy Mac was probably around 6'1", think he might've been pre-combine measurement draftee? Joe Theismann looks mad short, but he was def pre-combine measurements. I imagine the first handful of Super Bowl winning QB's (Starr, Namath, Griese) were around 6'1" but no combine measurements back then. Entire league back then under-sized by today's standards.

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Author:	Hawg Ass [ Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:53 pm ]
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Nas wrote: I can't talk about football with Packers fans, you people are beneath us Bears fans. Enjoy our scraps until the 2040s. I think the Packers are roughly 47-13 over the last 30 years. #2018

Author:	Nas [ Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:57 pm ]
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Hawg Ass wrote: Nas wrote: I can't talk about football with Packers fans, you people are beneath us Bears fans. Enjoy our scraps until the 2040s. I think the Packers are roughly 47-13 over the last 30 years. #2018 The past is for...

Author:	Hawg Ass [ Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:01 pm ]
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Nas wrote: Hawg Ass wrote: Nas wrote: I can't talk about football with Packers fans, you people are beneath us Bears fans. Enjoy our scraps until the 2040s. I think the Packers are roughly 47-13 over the last 30 years. #2018 The past is for... For those of us that have good memories, it is beautiful.

Author:	FavreFan [ Thu Mar 21, 2024 9:38 am ]
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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote: denisdman wrote: Yeah true but you take your best stab at an HoF QB. It is the single most important thing to an NFL football team. Agreed. And for the record I would take Caleb. I also think he will be the 3rd best QB in the North next season. Yeah that's the tough thing for the Bears, even if Caleb is good he is very unlikely to ever be better than Love.

Author:	Caller Bob [ Thu Mar 21, 2024 9:40 am ]
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When did Jared Groff become a QB great?

Author:	Nas [ Thu Mar 21, 2024 9:43 am ]
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If given decent odds, I would wager that C-Will will put up better numbers than Love next season.

Author:	Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Thu Mar 21, 2024 9:46 am ]
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Caller Bob wrote: When did Jared Groff become a QB great? Did somebody say that? He has been pretty good but certainly not great. That said, I don't expect a rookie to come in and outperform him. Guys like Stroud are an anomaly.

Author:	Nas [ Thu Mar 21, 2024 9:54 am ]
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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote: Nas wrote: If given decent odds, I would wager that C-Will will put up better numbers than Love next season. If you are asking for decent odds, then you are acknowledging that you believe Love will be better. That's your best QB thought in a while though. That means you should offer me 20-1 odds and allow me to set $200 on fire. We would be talking about not only UNPRECEDENTED production from a rookie quarterback but a Bears quarterback breaking records.

Author:	Nardi [ Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:02 am ]
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Nas wrote: Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote: Nas wrote: If given decent odds, I would wager that C-Will will put up better numbers than Love next season. If you are asking for decent odds, then you are acknowledging that you believe Love will be better. That's your best QB thought in a while though. That means you should offer me 20-1 odds and allow me to set $200 on fire. We would be talking about not only UNPRECEDENTED production from a rookie quarterback but a Bears quarterback breaking records. Here's what I suggest. Love is +4000 for offensive player of the year and Williams is +10000. Make the odds 2.5-1.

Author:	Nas [ Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:12 am ]
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Nardi wrote: Nas wrote: Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote: Nas wrote: If given decent odds, I would wager that C-Will will put up better numbers than Love next season. If you are asking for decent odds, then you are acknowledging that you believe Love will be better. That's your best QB thought in a while though. That means you should offer me 20-1 odds and allow me to set $200 on fire. We would be talking about not only UNPRECEDENTED production from a rookie quarterback but a Bears quarterback breaking records. Here's what I suggest. Love is +4000 for offensive player of the year and Williams is +10000. Make the odds 2.5-1. How do we factor in the Bears historic suckage at the quarterback position and the Packers breeding HoF quarterbacks?

Author:	Nardi [ Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:35 am ]
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Nas wrote: Nardi wrote: Nas wrote: Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote: Nas wrote: If given decent odds, I would wager that C-Will will put up better numbers than Love next season. If you are asking for decent odds, then you are acknowledging that you believe Love will be better. That's your best QB thought in a while though. That means you should offer me 20-1 odds and allow me to set $200 on fire. We would be talking about not only UNPRECEDENTED production from a rookie quarterback but a Bears quarterback breaking records. Here's what I suggest. Love is +4000 for offensive player of the year and Williams is +10000. Make the odds 2.5-1. How do we factor in the Bears historic suckage at the quarterback position and the Packers breeding HoF quarterbacks? The numbers are the numbers. A TRUE BELIEVER wouldn't even need odds.