Yeah and that flag and what it represents is still important. That's Bree's whole point.

And my point is if you refuse to allow for that then the flag doesn't mean anything. We've lost. It's one of the most fundamental and basic building blocks of our country. He has every right to think what he does and express it. His though isn't even an egregious thought. It's right in line with don't burn it, imo.

The right way to view Kaepernick from day one was as a cheap opportunist who's on-field career was clearly over and resorted to picking at racial scabs to stay relevant. What he didn't wasn't in itself disrespectful, except I guess to our collective ability to call people on their obvious bullshit. Which let's be fair Americans are about as good at that as they losing weight.

Either that’s wrong, or he’s spent millions of his own dollars and a lot of his own time supporting the facade which, whatever at the end of the day it’s still a good cause. Don’t get this argument.

Right. The disconnect is they aren’t burning the flag or disrespecting it. A Green Beret specifically counseled Kap on kneeling being the best way to silently protest while not disrespecting the anthem or the flag.

So? That's one Green Beret's opinion. His opinion is shared and not shared by millions. I'd bet there are millions that don't give a crap what he does. They all have the right to believe whatever they believe. The NBA bans it, why?

I don't get how you can have American flag thongs and other undergarments and that's fine, but kneeling before the flag, which presupposes respect of what the flag represents, is disrespectful.
I personally wouldn't kneel but the whole thing is protesting how society in the view of some is not living up to what the flag represents, not that what the flag represents is unworthy of respect.

I mostly agree with vegan.

The best part of the whole thing was when they asked Marshawn Lynch his thoughts on it at the time and he said something like “I don’t give a fuck dawg I sit down half the time anyway” and then multiple clips of him just sitting chillin during the anthem the previous year or two came up

The best part of the whole thing was when they asked Marshawn Lynch his thoughts on it at the time and he said something like “I don’t give a fuck dawg I sit down half the time anyway” and then multiple clips of him just sitting chillin during the anthem the previous year or two came up

Why would he?

Exactly .

All opinions are not equally valid or informed.

Someone says the Earth is flat? They're a moron. It's not enlightened to give it credence.

I don't get how you can have American flag thongs and other undergarments and that's fine, but kneeling before the flag, which presupposes respect of what the flag represents, is disrespectful.
I personally wouldn't kneel but the whole thing is protesting how society in the view of some is not living up to what the flag represents, not that what the flag represents is unworthy of respect.

This is a fair viewpoint and respectful of the differing opinions of others.

Some people generally don't get it. One random this morning, responding to Sportscenter's post about Stephen Jackson's video about Brees, said 'Respect for America and the flag comes #1. What did America ever do to you?'

No one wants to be held responsible for the sins of the father, and they shouldn't be. But you just can't pretend they didn't happen either. And while I've always believed, to some extent, groups of people like segregating themselves and want to be their own, unique identity... no one can honestly claim that the established systems aren't more difficult on some people than other people. And race is one of those determining factors.

Does Lebron even realize that what the flag represents in liberty is what gives him the right to have an opinion and to express his views?

Does Lebron even realize that what the flag represents in liberty is what gives him the right to have an opinion and to express his views?