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 Post subject: Re: Bradford to Vikings
PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 1:15 pm 
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Cutler is much better than Bradford. Bradford is a bust. At least Cutler has justified his draft position.


One playoff win for the Bears against a 500 Seattle team, and that's justifcation for Cutler?

Ahhh, no.
His career has been good enough for his draft position.

It's making me queasy to say nice things about Cutler so I'm going to stop now.

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 Post subject: Re: Bradford to Vikings
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Cutler is much better than Bradford. Bradford is a bust. At least Cutler has justified his draft position.


One playoff win for the Bears against a 500 Seattle team, and that's justifcation for Cutler?

Ahhh, no.
His career has been good enough for his draft position.

It's making me queasy to say nice things about Cutler so I'm going to stop now.


In terms of passing stats yes, but wins, no.

He's average. 11th pick for an average NFL quarterback? You would hope for better. But the Bears traded for Cutler as a top 5 overall guy, giving up two first-rounders and giving away, Kyle Orton. Cutler never lived up to that kind of value. He arguably wasn't better than Orton.

By comparison, the Vikings getting a No. 1 overall for a 1st and 4th rounder looks cheap.


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 Post subject: Re: Bradford to Vikings
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Dignified Rube wrote:
He's average. 11th pick for an average NFL quarterback? You would hope for better.


Dan Fouts?


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 Post subject: Re: Bradford to Vikings
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The Vikes got fleeced, Bradford is worth a 3rd pick..losing a 1st and a 4th is getting raped..not as bad as the no lube ass Vang the Bears got from Cutlers deal.

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 Post subject: Re: Bradford to Vikings
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Although this probably belongs in the wagering section, the Vikings getting +280 to win the NFC is just stupid odds. Ridiculous that Green Bay is that favored. Rodgers is good, but not that good. If Bradford is just decent, the Vikings win.

And the schedules favor the Vikings, too. The Vikings play creampuffs, while GB has the Chiefs, Raiders, Colts, Giants and Seahawks and the Vikings.

To quote JORR, I want to bet the Vikings to win the NFC until I get tired.


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 Post subject: Re: Bradford to Vikings
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" Rogers is good, but not that good" < horseshit




Rogers been the best QB and maybe player in the NFL for 5 or 6 years.

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" Rogers is good, but not that good" < horseshit




Rogers been the best QB and maybe player in the NFL for 5 or 6 years.


And, yet, the wounded Bears beat Rodgers last year on Brett Favre night in GB. :eye:


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 Post subject: Re: Bradford to Vikings
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Dignified Rube wrote:
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" Rogers is good, but not that good" < horseshit




Rogers been the best QB and maybe player in the NFL for 5 or 6 years.


And, yet, the wounded Bears beat Rodgers last year on Brett Favre night in GB. :eye:





Sweet, so that makes him what? 13-3 against us?

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 Post subject: Re: Bradford to Vikings
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Eagles let go of the wrong guy. Have you seen Wentz in his pre-season games? Oh my!

Talk about not being NFL ready. Instead of throwing the ball, it looks like he pushes the ball forward, all wobbly, with zero arm strength and hardly any accuracy.

RG3 and Cleveland (+4) against Wentz at Philly this week. I would do the unthinkable and take Cleveland. RG3 is going to be fine there.


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 Post subject: Re: Bradford to Vikings
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Now what you haters got to say?

For only being there two weeks, Bradford showed he's a pretty darn good QB and the future in Minnesota.


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 Post subject: Re: Bradford to Vikings
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Why do you have to use profanity? You're educated.


because seriously: fuck the vikings!

i've been fortunate enough to something like ~15-20 bears games over the last ~6 years, and even going all the way back to the season opener in champaign back in 2002: vikings fans are far and away the most ostentatiously-deplorable away-fans i've ever encountered in all of my times going to NFL games.

to give you an idea, last time i went i had 3 vikings fans behind me: some rather nondescript average looking dude sitting right in between two big blubbery heifers wearing vikings swag that you could kindly call "clown gear" (one chick had a giant jester/juggalo vikings hat with bells on the end of all the tips; literally "clown gear" =) AHEM! during a game i'm not especially loud or demonstrative or anything.... i'm typically the guy with one earmuff headphone on so i can have bears radio on to pick up news about injuries and whatever that i'll pass on to the people around me (that is if we've established a rapport already, i don't go and start imposing myself on people i'm not already colloquial with) so TLDR = i'm just an average pretty solid loner of a bears fan who 9/10 times ends up stubhubbing himself into rows of ppl with season tickets who are some "real bears fans" so since we're all there for the game > getting drunk/fucked-up we have a gay ol time like 90% of the time it works all the time, you know?

yet despite that, for whatever reason right b4 halftime the vikings doofus behind me decided to "accidentally spill his beer" right on my back. when i turned around with the obligatory wtf?! the dude was mean mugging me and i'm like "dude you just dumped a whole beer on my back" and the guy was like "so? what are you going to do about it?" so i snapped a nice little picture of him and his heifers as he continued his meanmugging 100% nonstop bullshit like "i'm going to stare you down until you look away cuz YOU'RE A TOTAL BITCH" i figured out that he was actually trying to IMPRESS THESE NASTY HEIFER CHICKS like "lol watch i'm gonna dump a beer on this bears fan and get him to freak out on me so he's kicked out of the game"

instead of doing that i found some cool as hell security guy and told him exactly what the situation was (and hey that picture sure came in handy!) so when i came back from my 2nd trip down to the concourse (cuz go figure i needed a lot of napkins and water and stuff as i didn't want to wreak of beer for the rest of the day) and he was mean-mugging me, you shoulda seen the look on his face when 2-3 big black security guards popped up right in front of us (row 1 of the upper deck right by the stairs) and started surveying the scene and even tho i did request that they didnt necessarily get up in his face (cuz i didnt wanna make it worse for me in the immediate future, you know, like they move on to dumping a whole plate of hot nachos on my head or something) they eventually motioned at him like tapping their eyes and pointing at him so he was as nice as pie for the rest of the game.

and ordinarily i hate to be that way, but clearly this dude was on some kind of a quest to show off how badass he was and when some dude you didn't even really pay attention to for the whole first half just up and dumps a beer down your back and is like "yeah i did.... so what are you gonna do about it?" yeap, indeed, FUCK THE VIKINGS!

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 Post subject: Re: Bradford to Vikings
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Dignified Rube wrote:
Now what you haters got to say?

For only being there two weeks, Bradford showed he's a pretty darn good QB and the future in Minnesota.

5 previous years of failure vs. 1 game of putting up 17 points

uhhhhh.....


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 Post subject: Re: Bradford to Vikings
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Dignified Rube wrote:
Now what you haters got to say?

For only being there two weeks, Bradford showed he's a pretty darn good QB and the future in Minnesota.




80 TDs -52 ints and averages 12 games a season, Vikes overpaid for an average @ best QB.

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Dignified Rube wrote:
Now what you haters got to say?

For only being there two weeks, Bradford showed he's a pretty darn good QB and the future in Minnesota.




80 TDs -52 ints and averages 12 games a season, Vikes overpaid for an average @ best QB.

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 Post subject: Re: Bradford to Vikings
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Dignified Rube wrote:
Now what you haters got to say?

For only being there two weeks, Bradford showed he's a pretty darn good QB and the future in Minnesota.




80 TDs -52 ints and averages 12 games a season, Vikes overpaid for an average @ best QB.



Overpaid, yes. But realize who his OC is. That guy makes avg QBs look good.


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 Post subject: Re: Bradford to Vikings
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Dignified Rube wrote:
Now what you haters got to say?

For only being there two weeks, Bradford showed he's a pretty darn good QB and the future in Minnesota.
They got the win but if he plays like that the rest of the year the trade will have been a bad one.

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 Post subject: Re: Bradford to Vikings
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To nobody's surprise, Minnesota is a good team. Bradford is an adequate QB for them. Probably nothing more, or nothing less.

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 Post subject: Re: Bradford to Vikings
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They got the win but if he plays like that the rest of the year the trade will have been a bad one.


What game were you watching, B.R.?

I saw a guy with a rocket arm, making some great throws. The TD pass to the tight-end in the first half is a prime example. I would be thrilled as a Minnesota fan right now.

Even Rodgers wanted to be Bradford yesterday.


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 Post subject: Re: Bradford to Vikings
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They scored 17 points at home against a middling defense.

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Even Rodgers wanted to be in Bradford yesterday.


Fixed.

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 Post subject: Re: Bradford to Vikings
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They scored 17 points at home against a middling defense.


Cutler + Bradford = Match

DR must have the lowest QB expectations on earth.


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 Post subject: Re: Bradford to Vikings
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Dignified Rube wrote:
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They got the win but if he plays like that the rest of the year the trade will have been a bad one.


What game were you watching, B.R.?

I saw a guy with a rocket arm, making some great throws. The TD pass to the tight-end in the first half is a prime example. I would be thrilled as a Minnesota fan right now.

Even Rodgers wanted to be Bradford yesterday.
He always has had the ability to make some good throws. Things went pretty much perfectly for him in that game against a team that looked like a disorganized mess. He's an average quarterback at best.

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 Post subject: Re: Bradford to Vikings
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Has Bradford ever had a receiver like Diggs, or a back (if healthy) like AP? I know AP may be hurt bad, and he also looks bad running the ball right now. Peterson didn't play at all in the preseason tho, so he was still getting his rhythm last night before injury. Also, Kyle Rudolph is a good pass catcher, and Norv is a top offensive coordinator.

I think Bradford could be above average in this offense, if he can play all remaining 14 games this year.

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 Post subject: Re: Bradford to Vikings
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They scored 17 points at home against a middling defense.


Middling defense?? I don't think Adrian Peterson would agree with you after yesterday. They stuffed him repeatedly and pressured Bradford.

GB has a top-tier defense, when they're healthy, no question about it.


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Has Bradford ever had a receiver like Diggs, or a back (if healthy) like AP? Also, Kyle Rudolph is a good pass catcher, and Norv is a top offensive coordinator.

I think Bradford could be above average in this offense, if he can play all remaining 14 games this year.


The Minnesota receivers looked great last night.


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 Post subject: Re: Bradford to Vikings
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GB has a top-tier defense, when they're healthy, no question about it.
No.

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 Post subject: Re: Bradford to Vikings
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Even Rodgers wanted to be in Bradford yesterday.


Fixed.


Equally impressive: Bradford outplayed two-time NFL MVP Aaron Rodgers with all of two weeks to learn Norv Turner’s offense and about a half-dozen practices under his belt, including three last week getting most of the reps after veteran backup Shaun Hill started the opener.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nf ... /90671158/


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They scored 17 points at home against a middling defense.

GB has a top-tier defense, when they're healthy, no question about it.

No. They're fine. Nothing spectacular.


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Dignified Rube wrote:
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They scored 17 points at home against a middling defense.

GB has a top-tier defense, when they're healthy, no question about it.

No. They're fine. Nothing spectacular.


That's what I said but with more flair...wooo!

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 Post subject: Re: Bradford to Vikings
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Might be time to reevaluate this trade.

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