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Good pick for Dallas.


He's bad.

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Good pick for Dallas.


He's bad.


Julie wanted him on the Bears; he's bad.

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Reuben Froster?

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So..uh, are the Browns going to be good?

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How is foster still on the board? Someone is going to get a damn good football player


Didn't he fail a drug test and assault a hospital worker?

That's a bit redundant. RFDC already said he's a damn good football player.

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So..uh, are the Browns going to be good?

Of course not.

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So..uh, are the Browns going to be good?

Of course not.


Oh yeah, how silly of me.

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So..uh, are the Browns going to be good?

There are doubts on Garrett.

I like Peppers, but the guy is a nickel corner and PR/KR in the NFL. 25 is a little steep for that position, unless he's the second coming of Hester (he is not).

They will have to develop the TE a lot.

Clearly punting another season to make another run at an early QB in 2018.


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it seems like the browns are at least trying right now to put a team together. maybe they didn't buy into (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky or watson; i don't really blame them. plus they need a decent team to surround a QB in order for that QB to succeed. i don't know who's out there in the coming years, but the browns will likely stay around the 1st-3rd pick for the next few years. they should have the pick of the litter.


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Chus wrote:
Good pick for Dallas.



He has a lot of upside that is perfect for Marinelli.


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it seems like the browns are at least trying right now to put a team together. maybe they didn't buy into (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky or watson; i don't really blame them. plus they need a decent team to surround a QB in order for that QB to succeed. i don't know who's out there in the coming years, but the browns will likely stay around the 1st-3rd pick for the next few years. they should have the pick of the litter.



I would give the Browns an A+ for what they did.


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it seems like the browns are at least trying right now to put a team together. maybe they didn't buy into (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky or watson; i don't really blame them. plus they need a decent team to surround a QB in order for that QB to succeed. i don't know who's out there in the coming years, but the browns will likely stay around the 1st-3rd pick for the next few years. they should have the pick of the litter.


I saw a graphic last night that the Browns have tried 6 different times in the last 15 (?) seasons to draft a QB high. They listed their failures. I don't blame them from shying away.

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they've also made bad picks elsewhere in key positions like running back. it's been somewhat dumb picks, somewhat bad luck.

but i can't really fault them so far this draft.


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it seems like the browns are at least trying right now to put a team together. maybe they didn't buy into (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky or watson; i don't really blame them. plus they need a decent team to surround a QB in order for that QB to succeed. i don't know who's out there in the coming years, but the browns will likely stay around the 1st-3rd pick for the next few years. they should have the pick of the litter.


I saw a graphic last night that the Browns have tried 6 different times in the last 15 (?) seasons to draft a QB high. They listed their failures. I don't blame them from shying away.



Right, but this is a totally different regime. These are analytic baseball guys. I really think, they knocked it out of the park. You can not add a young QB who needs to grow and lead a team, to a team without talent. They identified that, and added 3 guys with talent. LOVE that TE pick. Now if I were them, I would trade up in the 2nd, and take a QB.


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who would they take? kizer?


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who would they take? kizer?



Kizer or Webb


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Raiders once again searching for the "bad guy":

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ALAMEDA, Calif. -- Oakland Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie said his team did "miles and miles of research" on former Ohio State cornerback Gareon Conley before selecting him with the No. 24 overall pick in the first round of the NFL draft Thursday night, "to make sure we were totally comfortable with our decision, which we were."

Conley, accused of rape earlier this week, had been expected to be taken earlier in the draft.

Where the 6-foot, 195-pound Conley would be selected became a central storyline of the draft after a 23-year-old woman reported that he sexually assaulted her at a Cleveland hotel April 9.

Conley has not been arrested or charged. He released a statement through his agent Tuesday denying the accusation and saying that he has evidence he did nothing wrong. He has agreed to meet with detectives Monday and will submit his DNA, attorney Kevin Spellacy said.

McKenzie confirmed he discussed the Conley pick with Raiders owner Mark Davis before making the selection.

"We did our due diligence throughout this whole process and we trust our research, reports, everything we have on Mr. Conley, and we feel really good about picking Gareon Conley and having him join the Raider team and having him be a great teammate for our players," McKenzie said.

"The research was done, and it wasn't just a gut [instinct]; it was based on research, and we are very confident in all the information that we gathered."

McKenzie, though, would not go into specifics when asked whether he believed the accusation would not turn into charges.

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Conley, who is flying to Oakland on Friday before his meeting with police Monday, said after Thursday night's first round that he is "very confident" the accusation against him "will be resolved."

"I took a [polygraph] test today; that helps ... and all the evidence I have, I feel confident that it will be resolved," he said.

Spellacy told ESPN's Josina Anderson that his client had submitted to a polygraph test and had passed it. That information was shared with NFL teams.

The Raiders were one of the teams to speak with Conley in the past few days, according to ESPN's Adam Schefter.

Conley had been invited to the draft in Philadelphia, but after the accusation surfaced, he did not attend.

"It's been real emotional [this week] but I got through it. I just kept my faith strong and just kept listening to my mom, my agent ... and kept my head on straight. Had faith," he said.

"It is the best moment of my life."

Conley says he appreciates the Raiders showing trust in him.

"It's off the charts, honestly," he said. "Just to know that they have faith in me, not even just as a football player but as a person, like that, it speaks highly of them and I really appreciate it. It's an honor to be a part of the Raider organization."

With the Buckeyes, Conley had eight pass breakups and four interceptions this past season.

The Raiders allowed 61 completions of 20 or more yards in 2016, most of any team in the NFL.

McKenzie said Conley was "hands-down, the best player left on our board" when the Raiders' turn to pick came.

"He's the type of corner you look for," McKenzie said. "It's hard to get separation from him. He can play the deep ball. He can play press. He's big. He's strong. He's fast. And he understands the game and you can tell he loves the game by the way he plays.

"Watching his tape, being around him, interviewing him ... we had no question about his skill set and his ability to play the game. ... We feel real good about this, about the pick."

Raiders coach Jack Del Rio concurred, saying Conley was "well respected" by his peers and could play in man or zone defenses. Del Rio said it was a "happy moment" for the Raiders to land Conley.

"He's a football junkie and he loves to compete," Del Rio said.

"Good teammate and a really quality kid. He's got great length, great speed. ... He's one of those really clean players that we are fortunate to get our hands on late in the first round."

The Raiders allowed former first-round pick D.J. Hayden to leave in free agency, the cornerback signing with the Detroit Lions. Del Rio would not commit to Conley being a slot corner with highly paid veterans in Sean Smith and David Amerson already on the roster.

"We expect him to come in and compete," Del Rio said. "We think he's a highly skilled player and he's got the potential to be one of our better corners."

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Hell yeah. Kevin King seems like a good pick. Hopefully he doesn't suck.

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Gotta like what Jacksonville is doing. They're still gonna need to replace Bortles next offseason but their defense is pretty much set. Robinson and Fournette should help the offense a lot.

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Hell yeah. Kevin King seems like a good pick. Hopefully he doesn't suck.


Yeah, he's supposed to be a player.

Time to draft OBI !!!


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Surprised someone has not got Kizer yet

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The Browns are having a really solid draft

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The Browns are having a really solid draft

They had a good 1st round. I think Kizer kinda sucks.

Cook to the Vikings was a great pick. I hated it.

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The Browns are having a really solid draft

They had a good 1st round. I think Kizer kinda sucks.

Cook to the Vikings was a great pick. I hated it.

Sure Kizer may suck, who knows....but from a value stand point it is a pretty good pick for the mess they have at QB right now.

They got the best defensive player in the draft. They got Peppers who some considered a top half of the draft guy. They got a talented TE. They have addressed some major needs with their 4 picks so far.

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The Browns are having a really solid draft

They had a good 1st round. I think Kizer kinda sucks.

Cook to the Vikings was a great pick. I hated it.

Sure Kizer may suck, who knows....but from a value stand point it is a pretty good pick for the mess they have at QB right now.

They got the best defensive player in the draft. They got Peppers who some considered a top half of the draft guy. They got a talented TE. They have addressed some major needs with their 4 picks so far.

:lol:

They had 21 needs out of 22 possible. It was impossible not to address their needs with their top 4 picks.

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Taco & Chidobe...

Cowboys drafting an "All-Name" team.

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I think I'd like to see GB take Carroll Phillips

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i had a feeling they'd go with kizer. it's still been a good value draft, as RF said. i mean, it's the browns. they can't dig a bigger hole than they've been in.

they're making as good of moves as they can, i think.


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