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And will play for the race card. Not a good look.

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Yeah I'm really not believing that.

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Let's say it wasn't.....


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It would have been out by now.

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It would have been out by now.


IMO, from a legal perspective, a team could get in trouble for saying, "We offered 500K but he wanted 8 Million". I think it's going to be a while before something like this is eventually leaked, maybe by a former GM.


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Bodie saying you cant fuck up the count and expect to keep workin on the corner...


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It would have been out by now.


IMO, from a legal perspective, a team could get in trouble for saying, "We offered 500K but he wanted 8 Million". I think it's going to be a while before something like this is eventually leaked, maybe by a former GM.


Why? Teams talk about failed negotiations all the time. What does it say about a league that allows violent criminals to play but draws the line at a guy taking a political stand? I'm still going to watch but it bothers me.

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This reads like conservative fan fiction. Evidently the source cannot name which team but can confidently relate that Kaepernick sees himself as a race messiah, and the NFL is all to happy to cooperate by hushing talk of negotiations which have actually occurred. :roll:


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This seemed fairly obvious. Many teams would have paid him to be on the bench. He's not good enough to be a starter on a good team and he is probably good enough to put you a few draft picks higher.

That is what was so dumb about "JOSH MCNOWN GOT SIGNED AND HE SUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKS!". Yeah, he sucks and that is ok.

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This seemed fairly obvious. Many teams would have paid him to be on the bench. He's not good enough to be a starter on a good team and he is probably good enough to put you a few draft picks higher.

That is what was so dumb about "JOSH MCNOWN GOT SIGNED AND HE SUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKS!". Yeah, he sucks and that is ok.


So you believe it's about football?

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I've said it before and I will say it again, if Kaepernick could play like Aaron Rodgers...I don't care if he shit on the 50 yard line at Soldier Field and wiped the mess up with an American Flag, I'd take him on the Bears in a heartbeat.....

1) He's far from the Kapernick of a few years ago. Whatever pixie dust Harbaugh spread on him is gone. The guy I saw against the Bears last year was pathetic and disinterested.

2) In terms of backup QB jobs, there are two types..Alpha Backups and Beta Backups.....the alpha's actively want to start again and are going to try and win the job back over. Not every team wants an Alpha..they want the beta...so that cuts his options a ton.


He's just not that good.


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Nas wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
This seemed fairly obvious. Many teams would have paid him to be on the bench. He's not good enough to be a starter on a good team and he is probably good enough to put you a few draft picks higher.

That is what was so dumb about "JOSH MCNOWN GOT SIGNED AND HE SUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKS!". Yeah, he sucks and that is ok.


So you believe it's about football?
I believe it's about being a starting quarterback when there isn't really a case for him to be that on any average team.

He opted out of a big contract from the 49ers. Is he accepting a backup role?

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He 1 million percent would be signed months ago without the kneeling.

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He 1 million percent would be signed months ago without the kneeling.
By what team and for how much?

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Nas wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
This seemed fairly obvious. Many teams would have paid him to be on the bench. He's not good enough to be a starter on a good team and he is probably good enough to put you a few draft picks higher.

That is what was so dumb about "JOSH MCNOWN GOT SIGNED AND HE SUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKS!". Yeah, he sucks and that is ok.


So you believe it's about football?



I believe it's about both. If he were as good as Brady he could light a flag on fire at the 50 yard line and someone would sign him. But the fact that he is a marginal guy taking a political stand that is unpopular with MANY of the customers is making him untouchable. There isn't much upside to signing him.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
He 1 million percent would be signed months ago without the kneeling.



I believe that.

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I've said it before and I will say it again, if Kaepernick could play like Aaron Rodgers...I don't care if he shit on the 50 yard line at Soldier Field and wiped the mess up with an American Flag, I'd take him on the Bears in a heartbeat.....

1) He's far from the Kapernick of a few years ago. Whatever pixie dust Harbaugh spread on him is gone. The guy I saw against the Bears last year was pathetic and disinterested.

2) In terms of backup QB jobs, there are two types..Alpha Backups and Beta Backups.....the alpha's actively want to start again and are going to try and win the job back over. Not every team wants an Alpha..they want the beta...so that cuts his options a ton.


He's just not that good.


Yeah if he were a GREAT player he probably could. Ray Rice wasn't even good when he knocked a woman out cold and if it weren't for a video he would still be playing. Tank Johnson was involved in a murder IIRC and he was still able to play. We all know that stars have done far worse.

This isn't a football decision.

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Nas wrote:
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This seemed fairly obvious. Many teams would have paid him to be on the bench. He's not good enough to be a starter on a good team and he is probably good enough to put you a few draft picks higher.

That is what was so dumb about "JOSH MCNOWN GOT SIGNED AND HE SUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKS!". Yeah, he sucks and that is ok.


So you believe it's about football?



I believe it's about both. If he were as good as Brady he could light a flag on fire at the 50 yard line and someone would sign him. But the fact that he is a marginal guy taking a political stand that is unpopular with MANY of the customers is making him untouchable. There isn't much upside to signing him.
He, just like Cutler, didn't want to be a backup. He was told "no" by every team until a former coach got desperate after an injury.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Nas wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
This seemed fairly obvious. Many teams would have paid him to be on the bench. He's not good enough to be a starter on a good team and he is probably good enough to put you a few draft picks higher.

That is what was so dumb about "JOSH MCNOWN GOT SIGNED AND HE SUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKS!". Yeah, he sucks and that is ok.


So you believe it's about football?
I believe it's about being a starting quarterback when there isn't really a case for him to be that on any average team.

He opted out of a big contract from the 49ers. Is he accepting a backup role?


If he was talking to Baltimore and Seattle he clearly would be willing to be a backup.

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I'm pretty sure the Seahawks down't want an Alpha backup. They want a beta.


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Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
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This seemed fairly obvious. Many teams would have paid him to be on the bench. He's not good enough to be a starter on a good team and he is probably good enough to put you a few draft picks higher.

That is what was so dumb about "JOSH MCNOWN GOT SIGNED AND HE SUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKS!". Yeah, he sucks and that is ok.


So you believe it's about football?
I believe it's about being a starting quarterback when there isn't really a case for him to be that on any average team.

He opted out of a big contract from the 49ers. Is he accepting a backup role?


If he was talking to Baltimore and Seattle he clearly would be willing to be a backup.
I'm guessing Seattle offered him the league minimum.

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I'm pretty sure the Seahawks down't want an Alpha backup. They want a beta.


I imagine most teams want a QB good enough to push the starter or help them win if he gets hurt. Russell's job isn't on the line.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Nas wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Nas wrote:
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This seemed fairly obvious. Many teams would have paid him to be on the bench. He's not good enough to be a starter on a good team and he is probably good enough to put you a few draft picks higher.

That is what was so dumb about "JOSH MCNOWN GOT SIGNED AND HE SUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKS!". Yeah, he sucks and that is ok.


So you believe it's about football?
I believe it's about being a starting quarterback when there isn't really a case for him to be that on any average team.

He opted out of a big contract from the 49ers. Is he accepting a backup role?


If he was talking to Baltimore and Seattle he clearly would be willing to be a backup.
I'm guessing Seattle offered him the league minimum.


Yup. The cap friendly contract of Wilson is LONG gone. 18 million cap hit this year, 21 next year, 23 the year after that. They aint paying shit to anyone else at QB


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Nas wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Nas wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
This seemed fairly obvious. Many teams would have paid him to be on the bench. He's not good enough to be a starter on a good team and he is probably good enough to put you a few draft picks higher.

That is what was so dumb about "JOSH MCNOWN GOT SIGNED AND HE SUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKS!". Yeah, he sucks and that is ok.


So you believe it's about football?
I believe it's about being a starting quarterback when there isn't really a case for him to be that on any average team.

He opted out of a big contract from the 49ers. Is he accepting a backup role?


If he was talking to Baltimore and Seattle he clearly would be willing to be a backup.
I'm guessing Seattle offered him the league minimum.


I'm guessing he would have taken it if it were offered. By that time there were 0 starting jobs available. Same is true for Baltimore.

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Nas wrote:
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I'm pretty sure the Seahawks down't want an Alpha backup. They want a beta.


I imagine most teams want a QB good enough to push the starter or help them win if he gets hurt. Russell's job isn't on the line.


Injury insurance..maybe..push Russell Wilson? I don't think he needs to be pushed.


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If Kapernick was willing to play for less, at this point, it only benefits his camp to release that information.


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If Kapernick was willing to play for less, at this point, it only benefits his camp to release that information.

If at least one NFL teams had actually made him an offer, doesn't it only benefit the league to release that information rather than trying to sweep it under the rug?


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I'm guessing he would have taken it if it were offered. By that time there were 0 starting jobs available. Same is true for Baltimore.

He has made a lot of money. This gives him more attention. It was a tough decision for Cutler to get a free $10 million from Miami. You think Kaep is doing it all for a few hundred thousand dollars after all the other groups get a cut of his one year deal?

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If Kapernick was willing to play for less, at this point, it only benefits his camp to release that information.


If he's having discussions with Baltimore and Seattle clearly he has to be willing to play for less. His camp knows there isn't money available and Wilson and Flacco already make a shit load of money.

Why does Kaepernick's actions bother the league?

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